Storminator Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 (Unsure whether to post this in Fanfiction or General discussion, please move if needs be) So with Star Fox Zero branding itself as a "Re-imagining" of the Star Fox story, I thought to myself how I would reinterpret the furry filled Lylat system! This thread will be showcasing my personal take on Star Fox, so without further ado, lets dive in! THE LYLAT SYSTEM First off, a little pet peeve of mine- Where are all the moons? It always struck me as odd that the planets had a distinct lack of moons (Bolse notwithstanding) So in this universe Papetoon is Corneria's moon and was the first celestial body in the system to be terraformed. We'll get to the other two, but first- Solar. Solar has always been an odd one- Is it a Planet or Star? Well in my mind, it's a Planet (Despite what 6 year old me thought) but I've decided on making it a Gas Giant, because that's another thing Lylat seemed to be devoid of in my mind. Now onto its moons- Aquas and Fichina. Making them planet sized moons of a Gas Giant kills two birds with one stone- It satisfies my want for moons, and it deals with the issue of the system having too many planets that its unfeasible. The much loved Sectors X,Y and Z are still here, just not shown on this map since they're not technically in the system, just visible from certain planets. THE TIMELINE This timeline mainly covers the events before Lylat Wars/Star Fox 64 and is less of a re-imagining and more my interpretation of events. When creating this timeline I decided on a year in which the game's conflict would occur- 4096 (cookie for those that know how I got that number) I worked from there, doing Wiki searches to find character's ages and such. The Lylat Wars (4072 – 4102) This 30 year period saw 3 major conflicts throughout the Lylat System, the largest being the Vemonian War. Macbeth Civil War (4072-4074) The frontier industrial world of Macbeth had become divided politically between established corporations and immigrant population that was employed there. It eventually boiled over into full scale civil war, with the Cornerian Army being deployed to aid the rebel Immigrants. The Syndicate War (4084-4085) With many large scale Crime Syndicates growing in power in the outer system, the Cornerian central government declared open war in an attempt to crack down on illegal activity before it had a major impact on the central planets. The Vemonian War (4096-4102) The Vemonian War began after the exiled Dr. Andross formed the Vemonian Empire over the course of 7 years in order to become the dominant power in Lylat. The war spanned almost the entire system, even reaching Zoness. C.L.T = Cornerian Local Time C.F.A = Cornerian Flight Academy 4066 C.L.T –Arspace Dynamics invents G-Diffusion Technology 4068 C.L.T -James McCloud enters the Cornerian Flight Academy 4069 C.L.T -Wolf O’Donnell born 4070 C.L.T -James McCloud meets Peppy Hare -Arspace Dynamics develop the prototype AR-93/Arwing -James McCloud agrees to test the prototype 4071 C.L.T -James McCloud graduates from C.F.A 4072 C.L.T -Macbeth Civil War begins -James participates in numerous battles throughout the War 4073 C.L.T -Peppy Hare graduates from C.F.A -James & Peppy serve under Commander Cornelius Pepper 4074 C.L.T -Macbeth Civil War ends 4075 C.L.T -Arspace Dynamics put AR-93’s into limited production for Cornerian Army 4076 C.L.T -James leaves Cornerian Air Force, forms Team Star Fox with Peppy Hare - James meets Vixy -Star Fox hires Pigma Dengar 4077 C.L.T -James buys four AR-93’s from Arspace Dynamics, upgrading from their old standard Cornerian Fighters 4078 C.L.T -James and Vixy marry -Fox McCloud & Slippy Toad born 4079 C.L.T -Star Fox has its first run-in with the Star Wolves, a group of Space Pirates lead by the O'Donnell clan 4080 C.L.T -Peppy meets Vivian 4081 C.L.T -Vixy is bedridden with a fatal disease 4082 C.L.T -Vixy passes away 4083 C.L.T -Arspace Dynamics Arwing blueprints are stolen by an unknown crime syndicate -Peppy and Vivian marry, having a Honeymoon on Zoness 4084 C.L.T -Crime gangs gain territory in the outer system (Macbeth, Solar, and Sargasso Region) -Cornerian Army declares war on all crime syndicates in the system -Star Wolves employ the use of Wolfen Starfighters, reverse engineered from Arspace Dynamics Blueprints -Star Fox hired to combat the fighters 4085 C.L.T -Syndicate War ends with criminals either surrendering or going into hiding 4086 C.L.T -Cornelius Pepper gets promoted to General of the Cornerian Army 4087 C.L.T -Andross deploys Biological and Chemical weapons across Lylat, practically destroying the ecosystems 4088 C.L.T -Andross is exiled 4089 C.L.T -James McCloud commissions the construction of The Great Fox, takes out an 80 year loan to cover expenses NOTE: James would be 109 years old by the time the loan expired! -Andross forms the Vemonian Empire in secret -Wolf O’Donnell comes out of hiding and takes over leadership of the Star Wolves, turning it into a 4 man squadron of mercenaries known as Star Wolf 4090 C.L.T -Construction begins on the Great Fox 4091 C.L.T -Andrew Oikonny approaches Wolf O’Donnell about joining Star Wolf and striking a deal with Andross 4092 C.L.T -Wolf O’Donnel meets Leon Powalski at a bar on Venom 4093 C.L.T -Strange activity reported from Venom. General Pepper employs Star Fox for a scouting mission -Pigma’s Betrayal -Pigma joins Star Wolf -Falco forms and leads the Free-Feathers -Fox McCloud enters Cornerian Flight Academy 4094 C.L.T -The Great Fox is complete -Macbeth falls to the Vemonian Empire 4095 C.L.T -Fox leaves C.F.A -Fox re-forms Team Star Fox with the aid of Peppy -Falco joins Team Star Fox 4096 C.L.T -The Vemonian War begins -Bill Grey graduates from C.F.A -Star Fox hired by General Pepper to help combat an assault on Corneria 4097 C.L.T -Fichina Outpost overrun, Star Fox sent to investigate -Team Star Wolf presumed K.I.A after engaging Team Star Fox -Bioweapons discovered on Aquas and Solar, Star Fox sent in to deal with them -Bill Grey promoted to squad leader of Husky Unit 4098 C.L.T -Battle at Sector Y -Vemonian forces establish a foothold at Zoness, using it for Waste disposal 4099 C.L.T -Battle for Katina -Fox and Bill reunite -Katina frontline base destroyed 4100 C.L.T -Cornerian forces retake Zoness -Star Fox take out a major supply base at Macbeth, giving Cornerian Army a staging ground for a full scale assault on Venom 4101 C.L.T -Cornerian forces begin the Assault on Area 6 -Ground assault on Venom -Star Wolf return with upgraded Wolfen Fighters to protect Andross -Star Wolf K.I.A on Venom -Andross defeated by Fox McCloud -The Vemonian army dwindles without strong leadership -Star Fox hailed as heroes, offered official position in the Cornerian Army 4102 C.L.T -Vemonian remnants stage a last-ditch assault on Fortuna, led by Andrew Oikonny -With the aid of Star Fox the Vemonian forces are defeated and officially surrender -The Vemonian War Ends CHARACTER AGES Next up is character ages, their birth years and year of death (if available); James McCloud- 4053-4093 C.L.T (40yrs old) Vixy McCloud- 4055-4082 C.L.T (27yrs old) Fox McCloud & Slippy Toad- 4078 C.L.T (18yrs old as of 4096) Falco Lombardi- 4077 C.L.T (19yrs old as of 4096) Peppy Hare- 4055 C.L.T (41yrs old as of 4096) Gen. Pepper- 4047 C.L.T (49yrs old as of 4096) Beltino Toad- 4049 C.L.T (47yrs old as of 4096) Dr. Andross- 4040-4101 C.L.T (61yrs old) Wolf O’Donnell- 4069-4101 C.L.T (32yrs old) Pigma Dengar- 4057-4101 C.L.T (44yrs old) Andrew Oikonny- 4074-4102 C.L.T (28yrs old) Leon Powalski- 4064-4101 C.L.T (37yrs old) That's all there is for now! Thoughts, critiques and suggestions are very welcome! I'd also like to hear about your ideas for a completely re-imagined Star Fox Universe 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArwingFan Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 I like this reimagining, would Eladard and Meteor still count as canon and on the chart somewhere? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Storminator Posted January 7, 2016 Author Share Posted January 7, 2016 4 hours ago, ArwingFan said: I like this reimagining, would Eladard and Meteor still count as canon and on the chart somewhere? I considered it, but I wanted to stick mostly to the Lylat Wars/Star Fox 64 planets, so no Dinosaur Planet/Sauria I'm afraid. If I was to add Eladard it'd probably be past the Asteriod belt (The blurred band after Corneria and before Solar... should've probably labeled that :P) and as for Meteor, it'd probably be a moon of Venom akin to Deimos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clearwater Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 All in all, this is a very nice imagining, but I don't quite think the bit at 4081 C.L.T is quite right... I thought instead Vixy was killed in a car bomb incident (Suspected by Andross) in the original Japanese comics, instead of catching a bad disease. (Or did you mean to say it was Vivian, as depicted in one of the endings of Star Fox Command?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Storminator Posted January 7, 2016 Author Share Posted January 7, 2016 15 minutes ago, Clearwater said: All in all, this is a very nice imagining, but I don't quite think the bit at 4081 C.L.T is quite right... I thought instead Vixy was killed in a car bomb incident (Suspected by Andross) in the original Japanese comics, instead of catching a bad disease. (Or did you mean to say it was Vivian, as depicted in one of the endings of Star Fox Command?) Well, considering it's a re-imagining of events I'm kinda free to change things up a little I did mean Vixy, as in James McCloud's Wife. To be honest I always felt the comic's story to be a bit contrived with the whole accidental car-bomb thing. Making Andross have a personal vendetta against McCloud makes the whole world feel smaller, its the "Everything is connected!" school of thought that a lot of blockbusters are trying nowadays. If I do expand upon all this then there'd be hints here and there as to what exactly the disease was and how she contracted it, but I'd rather have the audience connect the dots on their own, its more fun that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clearwater Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 So you're saying that Vixy's disease is non-canon then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Storminator Posted January 7, 2016 Author Share Posted January 7, 2016 11 minutes ago, Clearwater said: So you're saying that Vixy's disease is non-canon then? In terms of the official canon, yeah, she bit the dust from a car bomb xD So my version of her death is very much non-canon (Sorry purists :P) There are a few other things I had to alter to make sense in my Timeline, such as Andrew Oikonny's age. According to the Wiki he's meant to be 17 during SF64, which, if that follows my timeline, he'd be like, 12 when he approached Wolf about working for Andross! So I ended up bumping his age up a little to make it work. Another thing I had to figure out was Fox's age relative to all the events- He's meant to be just 18 by the time of SF64, having dropped out of Flight Academy after learning of James' demise, and making a newly formed Star Fox team before Andross declares war! So how did I solve this? Students join the Academy when they are 15, graduating when they’re 18. Flight Academy covers all aspects of air/space combat; Year 1- Enrolment/Air Combat Theory Year 2- Space Combat Theory Year 3- Air Combat Training Year 4- Space Combat Training/Graduation As well as basic combat training, Students can specialise in other aspects such as Mechanics, Engineering, and R&D So, Fox drops out in his 3rd year, meaning he'd have all the theory, just none of the practical experience. So he's practically forced to put his knowledge to the test when Andross appears. The reason training takes 4 years is because Air and Space combat are probably two very different things, so you'd have to be very prepared for both. Plus, Corneria seems like quite a militaristic society and would probably take pride in training their soldiers rigorously, but this would obviously mean their strength wouldn't be in numbers, but in their superior tactics and well trained forces. Also, here's an update to the System map; Thanks to ArwingFan for making me think about the other planets, Venom now has a moon! I'm debating on whether to put Eladard where Macbeth currently is, and make Macbeth a moon of Eladard. Whether it's a solid planet or another Gas Giant is also up for debate. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patch93 Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 Actually, at least in Star Fox 2, the Battle Base Meteor is part of the asteroid belt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The VGM Lover Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 1 hour ago, Patch93 said: Actually, at least in Star Fox 2, the Battle Base Meteor is part of the asteroid belt. In the original, though, the Battle Base meteor is where you have to go before facing Venom. Either it's exactly what it's name implies for Venom, or a moon. Or, after the events of the first, the Cornerians decided to try and move it back, but was stopped when Andross unleashed his second invasion. Just using my own imagination. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Storminator Posted January 8, 2016 Author Share Posted January 8, 2016 8 hours ago, amcintyr9998 said: In the original, though, the Battle Base meteor is where you have to go before facing Venom. Either it's exactly what it's name implies for Venom, or a moon. Or, after the events of the first, the Cornerians decided to try and move it back, but was stopped when Andross unleashed his second invasion. Just using my own imagination. I knew I'd heard or seen from somewhere that Meteor in the originals was part of an Asteroid belt! Regardless, its not a moon for me... But I think it needs a better name than Meteor. Also been thinking about events after the Vemonian War, mainly how to make the events of Stair Fax Temperatures not suck so much Everyone always says how there hasn't been a solid villain since Andross, so I've been thinking: Why not make the Dinosaurs/Saurians of Adventures the next major Antagonists? I'm thinking Suaria can be a planet in a different system, discovered by Cornerian probes. The Saurian's would come to invade Lylat, Venom specifically. Why Venom? because its their primordial homeworld! Remember that weird temple that was pretty out of place in LW? Well a little Wiki searching reveals that it's believed to have been build by an ancient civilization- "Corneria University scientists believe that the legendary Lost Tribe of Cornerus did, indeed, inhabit Venom in the distant past." Golmech, Star Fox Wiki Another thing is that before SFC Venom was never stated to be uninhabitable, just barren and deserted, key word being deserted. Add in the fact that (Supposedly) the Reptilian species of Lylat hail from Venom and I'd say that's a pretty solid foundation for some anthropomorphic Dino's to barge in and take back what they feel is theirs! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Storminator Posted January 8, 2016 Author Share Posted January 8, 2016 Update! Here's my renditions of Sectors X, Y and Z! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Storminator Posted January 9, 2016 Author Share Posted January 9, 2016 So because of this site's 2mb upload limit, I've decided to post any other images to Imgur. SOLAR This Gaseous planet is, for obvious reasons, inhospitable. Its two frozen moons however, Aquas and Fichina provide a shallow but livable atmosphere, with Cornerian scientists establishing research bases across the plains of Fichina. Geothermal scans of Aquas have led Scientists to believe there may be artificial constructs beneath its surface, however attempts to break through the thick icey crust have proven unsuccessful. Solar is situated in what has been dubbed the "X/Y/Z" cluster- Three large Nebula's just beyond the reaches of Lylat, which has lead to many theories about their significance to the formation of the system. -Cornerian Public Records: Solar- 07/05/4026 C-L-T So yeah, there's a little Lore-dump! Enjoy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Storminator Posted January 10, 2016 Author Share Posted January 10, 2016 ZONESS The once beautiful planet of Zoness has since been polluted. With the Cornerian Fleet stretched thin and preoccupied with the Battle of Sector Y, it provided the Vemonians a window to slip by Corneria and establish a foothold on the planet. Zoness provides both a tactical advantage and serves as a means of waste disposal, with the intent of damaging the morale of the Cornerian people- Seeing a once picturesque world be corrupted by the enemy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delete-this-pls? Posted March 19, 2016 Share Posted March 19, 2016 I really like the timeline you wrote! Truth is I think it can fit into the already existing Star Fox Canon. It's great! Have you thought of writing backstories for characters as well? Again, this is great! ^^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Storminator Posted March 19, 2016 Author Share Posted March 19, 2016 4 hours ago, Swedguy said: I really like the timeline you wrote! Truth is I think it can fit into the already existing Star Fox Canon. It's great! Have you thought of writing backstories for characters as well? Again, this is great! ^^ Thanks a lot! That was partially the thought process behnd it, since the backstory of the games was so vague anyway I felt it could either stand as its own re-imagining or be slotted into the official timeline. As for characters, I haven't put as much thought into them yet. Truth be told, I've sort of put this on the backburner, and this was always more of an exercise in worldbuilding and lore. Though I do know that I'd want to focus on James McCloud specifically (Hence why the timeline follows evens relevant to him) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delete-this-pls? Posted March 20, 2016 Share Posted March 20, 2016 23 hours ago, Storminator said: Thanks a lot! That was partially the thought process behnd it, since the backstory of the games was so vague anyway I felt it could either stand as its own re-imagining or be slotted into the official timeline. As for characters, I haven't put as much thought into them yet. Truth be told, I've sort of put this on the backburner, and this was always more of an exercise in worldbuilding and lore. Though I do know that I'd want to focus on James McCloud specifically (Hence why the timeline follows evens relevant to him) It really does follow him indeed. I'd love to hear about Star Wolf as a whole, maybe even the O'Donell clan. I was always confused about when Star Wolf was formed, originally having Star Wolf be a criminal syndicate rather than a team definitely makes sense when you take into consideration Wolf only met Leon, Andrew and Pigma when he was hired by Andross. As a result I always thought there was no way there could have been a Star Wolf before then that James, Pigma and Peppy could have run into. But you managed to sort that out ^^ As for Wolf, I was always uncertain about what kind of backstory he could have had. On one hand the accent made me think of him as a typical rejected rich kid from Corneria, but on the other hand there are no hints towards wolves existing on Corneria. Made me wonder if he was from a planet like Machbeth. However it's worth mentioning that his homeworld is strangely listed as Corneria on the Lylat Wiki: http://starfox.wikia.com/wiki/Wolf_O'Donnell Same thing for Leon on the same website, though he seems to be from Venom since reptiles are (from what I can tell) Venomian. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Storminator Posted March 21, 2016 Author Share Posted March 21, 2016 Yeah, Wolf has always been interesting with his funny accent. I'd never put much thought into where he came from, although I do know the Lylat Legacy fan comic had him be a refugee on Macbeth, so there's that I guess! I think the O'Donnell clan could have some sort of tradition of naming their offspring after themselves, so there'd be a Wolf O'Donnell Sr and Wolf O'Donnell Jr. I'm thiinking that Wolf O'Donnell Jr (Aka, the Wolf we all know and love) can have the Assault/Brawl accent, while his father could have the SF64 accent So that would make the Star Wolves Syndicate quite threatening, having them carry the name to make it seem like its just one guy coming back time and again (At least until they open their mouth and start yapping :P) Also presenting the Jewel of Lylat and its moon; Corneria and Papetoon! No description needed, really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delete-this-pls? Posted March 21, 2016 Share Posted March 21, 2016 4 hours ago, Storminator said: Yeah, Wolf has always been interesting with his funny accent. I'd never put much thought into where he came from, although I do know the Lylat Legacy fan comic had him be a refugee on Macbeth, so there's that I guess! I think the O'Donnell clan could have some sort of tradition of naming their offspring after themselves, so there'd be a Wolf O'Donnell Sr and Wolf O'Donnell Jr. I'm thiinking that Wolf O'Donnell Jr (Aka, the Wolf we all know and love) can have the Assault/Brawl accent, while his father could have the SF64 accent So that would make the Star Wolves Syndicate quite threatening, having them carry the name to make it seem like its just one guy coming back time and again (At least until they open their mouth and start yapping :P) Also presenting the Jewel of Lylat and its moon; Corneria and Papetoon! No description needed, really. That's interesting! My only question is how old would that make the young Wolf, since Assault happened 8-9 years after 64. I always thought Wolf's accent in Assault was an oversight. http://starfox.wikia.com/wiki/Wolf_O%27Donnell lists him as 38 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Storminator Posted March 21, 2016 Author Share Posted March 21, 2016 4 minutes ago, Swedguy said: That's interesting! My only question is how old would that make the young Wolf, since Assault happened 8-9 years after 64. I always thought Wolf's accent in Assault was an oversight. http://starfox.wikia.com/wiki/Wolf_O%27Donnell lists him as 38 Well, since its a reimagining Assault might not even be part of my continuity. Regardless, I did have the character's ages listed in the OP; Wolf O’Donnell- 4069-4101 C.L.T (32yrs old) So if we assume Wolf survives the events of SF64 then he'd be around 40 years old. I'd say by that time his Assault voice would suit him well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delete-this-pls? Posted March 21, 2016 Share Posted March 21, 2016 13 minutes ago, Storminator said: Well, since its a reimagining Assault might not even be part of my continuity. Regardless, I did have the character's ages listed in the OP; Wolf O’Donnell- 4069-4101 C.L.T (32yrs old) So if we assume Wolf survives the events of SF64 then he'd be around 40 years old. I'd say by that time his Assault voice would suit him well. Fair enough. I suppose he underwent accent therapy after SF64 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Storminator Posted March 21, 2016 Author Share Posted March 21, 2016 5 minutes ago, Swedguy said: Fair enough. I suppose he underwent accent therapy after SF64 Probably Each voice fit the respective character designs though 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delete-this-pls? Posted March 21, 2016 Share Posted March 21, 2016 6 hours ago, Storminator said: Probably Each voice fit the respective character designs though Yeah. Not sure if this is the case, but I've heard that the older you get, the more thick your accent becomes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Storminator Posted March 21, 2016 Author Share Posted March 21, 2016 19 minutes ago, Swedguy said: Yeah. Not sure if this is the case, but I've heard that the older you get, the more thick your accent becomes. As well as that, accents can change completely since its an environmental factor... So... I guess he hung out with a load of Americans for nearly a decade xD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delete-this-pls? Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 16 hours ago, Storminator said: As well as that, accents can change completely since its an environmental factor... So... I guess he hung out with a load of Americans for nearly a decade xD He did end up being the leader of about half of the Venomians who served Andross, so yeah, I imagine that's the case. Still, how come his homeworld is listed as Corneria? He doesn't sound Cornerian to me in SF64, same with Leon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Storminator Posted March 22, 2016 Author Share Posted March 22, 2016 12 minutes ago, Swedguy said: He did end up being the leader of about half of the Venomians who served Andross, so yeah, I imagine that's the case. Still, how come his homeworld is listed as Corneria? He doesn't sound Cornerian to me in SF64, same with Leon. Probably because Arwingpedia is a bit loose with its sources- I'd say Lylat Wiki is better for actual facts about the game's characters. I'd say they just assume everyone's from Corneria because its the center of government. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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