Vulvokunvrii Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 Hello StarFox online! This is Lucario, and i was hoping we could talk. I've been switching between what kind of armies i love, and i have come to a conclusion; I will always like PMCs (Private Military Company). So, what do you think is better: PMC's or State Armies ( irefer to "normal" armies as State Armies)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoneWolf Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 I voted PMCs, but personally I like freelancers better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vulvokunvrii Posted February 8, 2011 Author Share Posted February 8, 2011 I voted PMCs, but personally I like freelancers better. Awsome choice! *give a high Paw* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoneWolf Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 Awsome choice! *give a high Paw* Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vulvokunvrii Posted February 8, 2011 Author Share Posted February 8, 2011 Thanks. out of curiousity, why DO you like PMC/Freelancers? Do you have a reason? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePointingMan Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 Province Armies. but fur seriousness... I don't really know what either of em are, I can guess what they do by there names though, so Private Military Company sounds like it would be something cooler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vulvokunvrii Posted February 8, 2011 Author Share Posted February 8, 2011 Province Armies. but fur seriousness... I don't really know what either of em are, I can guess what they do by there names though, so Private Military Company sounds like it would be something cooler. Private Military comoany is another word for Mercenaries or Mercenary Group; you know the people that wipe their client countries @$$ and do the hard jobs that their own aries can or wont do. "State Armies" Are basically the Actual army(ies) of the the Nation-like the us army , Marines balh blah blah. who the heck are the Province armies? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePointingMan Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 Private Military comoany is another word for Mercenaries or Mercenary Group; you know the people that wipe their client countries @$$ and do the hard jobs that their own aries can or wont do. "State Armies" Are basically the Actual army(ies) of the the Nation-like the us army , Marines balh blah blah. who the heck are the Province armies? I doubt they exist, but the United states is made up of states, right, Canada's made up of Provinces, so I just replaced state armies with province armies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vulvokunvrii Posted February 8, 2011 Author Share Posted February 8, 2011 I doubt they exist, but the United states is made up of states, right, Canada's made up of Provinces, so I just replaced state armies with province armies. PMC's do exsist, they just arent openly talked about or mentioned; again, they do the tough/dirty jobs that the their clients wont do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePointingMan Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 PMC's do exsist, they just arent openly talked about or mentioned; again, they do the tough/dirty jobs that the their clients wont do. Sorreh, I meant I doubt the Province armies exist. it'd be really dumb for me to just say I doubt something exists just after saying I don't know what it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vulvokunvrii Posted February 8, 2011 Author Share Posted February 8, 2011 Sorreh, I meant I doubt the Province armies exist. it'd be really dumb for me to just say I doubt something exists just after saying I don't know what it is. Well i dont blame you, but its either me or you getting the "Province Aries" confused. I only used the term "State Army" Becasue i was using it to refer to an actual Country's army. Like the US as a decnt numbered army, Canada has a small army, Russia has an army. The "State" is the governemt or nation the army belongs to. PMC's dont belong to anyone. They work for whomever pays the most or pays what ever they want. I could go into a little more depth in my explainations if you wish...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sylum Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 I'd have to go with The actual armies. I say this because private contactors, PMCs, freelancers.....they are notorious for being unusually cruel, breaking war time law, and all around A-holes. Two examples: Black Water. The notorious and best known Private Contractor group. They broke major humanitarian and war time laws by actually traficking young Middle eastern girls from a town to a.near by base.and.forced.them into prostitution. Example 2: there's multiple videos of them being.complete.dicks. one sticks in my kind where a groupd of black water "mercs" in a helicoptor flew a few feet above a USMC sniper position and hovered there laughing like complete idiots. As they were flying away, they flicked the.marines off. Not only were they complete assholes, they gave away the.snipers position causing us to lose two men. PMCs and private contactors are unproffesional, rude, have no care for human life, complete dicks. Edit: will be edited later Edit 2: where's matt when we.need him. he'd have a field day...[/sarcasm] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vulvokunvrii Posted February 9, 2011 Author Share Posted February 9, 2011 I'd have to go with The actual armies. I say this because private contactors, PMCs, freelancers.....they are notorious for being unusually cruel, breaking war time law, and all around A-holes. Two examples: Black Water. The notorious and best known Private Contractor group. They broke major humanitarian and war time laws by actually traficking young Middle eastern girls from a town to a.near by base.and.forced.them into prostitution. Example 2: there's multiple videos of them being.complete.dicks. one sticks in my kind where a groupd of black water "mercs" in a helicoptor flew a few feet above a USMC sniper position and hovered there laughing like complete idiots. As they were flying away, they flicked the.marines off. Not only were they complete assholes, they gave away the.snipers position causing us to lose two men. PMCs and private contactors are unproffesional, rude, have no care for human life, complete dicks. Edit: will be edited later Edit 2: where's matt when we.need him. he'd have a field day...[/sarcasm] I respect your opinion, and it is...a...decent one. But, no one is perfect. Most Mercenaries are usally former soldiers and or thrill seekers looking for some sratch by doing what they do best: Killing and such. Now State Armies (i refer Noraml Armies as state armies; its a habit) and PMCs have their advantages and disadvantages. State Armies: They fight for their country, Loved ones and so on. This give them alot of motivation among other traits while in battle operations. PMC: They fight for the Money-they are Soldier of Fortune-and other stuff. They might not have quite the amount of motivation while out in the field, but they HAVE a purpose. State Armies: They have very good training (depending on what country they are from), are supplied with wahtever the government gives them and so on. PMC: They are HIRED by the governement to BOLSTER the State Army in their theatre of combat ops. They-the PMC-do security, hard work , dirty jobs and other stuff that the State Armie an their Governemtn WON'T or CAN'T do. PMcs are usally above the law and can act differently than State Armies can. PMC: They also are mostly former Soldiers of wherever they came from, and thus ALREADY have their own brand of training, in addition to whatever other training they will need to perform thier jobs. This makes them far better trained than State Army soldiers (This is strictly my opinion, so please dont be angry okay?), are able to use many differnt combat arms etc, and have slightly more freedom than SA's do. There is more, and im not sure if you want me o go any deeper. Oh, and many Nations, Regimes and such have used Mercenaries in the PASt, so PMCs have been around for quite a long time. They could even be in the the recent theatres of combat right now.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sylum Posted February 9, 2011 Share Posted February 9, 2011 Sorry, bro. No one is above the law. They are under high.scrutiny.and massive amounts of civil, war, and.world lawsuits right now for their actions. The only thing they have going for them is that they do more than whats allowed by a state army because they're assholes and think they're above the.law.. this post was about black water. Btw: no i'm not mad. I'm enjoying this conversation. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vulvokunvrii Posted February 9, 2011 Author Share Posted February 9, 2011 Sorry, bro. No one is above the law. They are under high.scrutiny.and massive amounts of civil, war, and.world lawsuits right now for their actions. The only thing they have going for them is that they do more than whats allowed by a state army because they're assholes and think they're above the.law.. this post was about black water. okay, say what you wish, but i still like PMCs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sylum Posted February 9, 2011 Share Posted February 9, 2011 Sorry, dude. I came off like an ass.and.edited it to late. I said i was enjoying this discussion. Trust me. I do respect your opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrypticQuery Posted February 9, 2011 Share Posted February 9, 2011 I'm going to have to side with State/Country/National/Official armies, for many of the same reasons that Sylum has so excellently articulated already . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vulvokunvrii Posted February 9, 2011 Author Share Posted February 9, 2011 For Sylum: Its alright man; it would take ALOT to get me angry. well, that and your "dislike" of Mercenaries is not much of a surprise to me let me know what else you wish to talk about For Crazy: I respect your opinion. I like Stae Armies too, but it almost seems they are not as "free" or "laid back" as PMCs are. There's just something about PMCs that i like... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrypticQuery Posted February 9, 2011 Share Posted February 9, 2011 but it almost seems they are not as "free" or "laid back" as PMCs are. There's just something about PMCs that i like... Well that's a given isn't it? State/Country armies must show professionalism. They know they're fighting for the benefit of their country and must fight hard and honorably. With PMCs, they're just there to get paid and have as much "fun" as possible while doing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vulvokunvrii Posted February 9, 2011 Author Share Posted February 9, 2011 With PMCs, they're just there to get paid and have as much "fun" as possible while doing it. xD hahahahahhahahahahah i could not help but laugh in RL! "Fun"...thats...thats very funny way to put it ^_^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrypticQuery Posted February 9, 2011 Share Posted February 9, 2011 xD hahahahahhahahahahah i could not help but laugh in RL! "Fun"...thats...thats very funny way to put it Glad I could give a laugh :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vulvokunvrii Posted February 9, 2011 Author Share Posted February 9, 2011 Glad I could give a laugh anything else yu wish to speak of? Im all ears. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sylum Posted February 9, 2011 Share Posted February 9, 2011 Excellently articulated, my ass. XD I did a terrible job all thanks to posting with a phone. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePointingMan Posted February 9, 2011 Share Posted February 9, 2011 Well i dont blame you, but its either me or you getting the "Province Aries" confused. I only used the term "State Army" Becasue i was using it to refer to an actual Country's army. Like the US as a decnt numbered army, Canada has a small army, Russia has an army. The "State" is the governemt or nation the army belongs to. PMC's dont belong to anyone. They work for whomever pays the most or pays what ever they want. I could go into a little more depth in my explainations if you wish...? I'm confused now I think I understand the PMC's and State armies now. It doesn't really matter though, cause I can't even figured out what is confusing me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vulvokunvrii Posted February 9, 2011 Author Share Posted February 9, 2011 I'm confused now I think I understand the PMC's and State armies now. It doesn't really matter though, cause I can't even figured out what is confusing me. *shrugs* Beats me; anything elseyou wish to take about..? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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