sjrathbun812 Posted February 8, 2012 Share Posted February 8, 2012 @gilgamesh Not a clue. Dinosaur Planet would have been an awesome game... if Nintendo hadn't put their nose in Rare's work. But, it is what it is. I don't think there's nearly enough data left on the disk to re-create it. There might be a few things, but nothing beyond that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gilgamesh Posted February 8, 2012 Share Posted February 8, 2012 In your opinion, N64 version or not?Sabre Randorn Kamerian Dragon.mp3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drasiana Posted February 8, 2012 Share Posted February 8, 2012 Deffo pre-Adventures, though elements of what I presume that scene to have been are still evident in the opening sequence, the whole time travel thing? Yeeeeeah... cool though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harlow Posted February 9, 2012 Share Posted February 9, 2012 Well, it won't make much difference. DP was a prototype...no... more of a concept, that later was decided it would fit the series. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drasiana Posted February 9, 2012 Share Posted February 9, 2012 Actually Dinosaur Planet was pretty much done...then they decided to send it to Gamecube instead, THEN it became Star Fox. Kind of like what happened to Star Fox 2, only if halfway through the re-do with SF64 they decided to turn it into a Pokemon game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ala1n-J Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 Dinosaur Planet? Personally I don't know about it. The cahracters seemed to be good and the story could be interesting, but on a practical aspect I don't thing enough material of the original content has been preserved to make a new game. And unless Adventures is de-canonised and completely abandonned by Nintendo, many elements will have to be changed to avoid juridical pursuits. I think however big N kept the "Dinosaur planet" title somehow... By the way, Dras, that link with the SFAd script-story that has been cut out is not working (driver error). What is it about exactly? I mean, Krystal having a backstory? Drakor and the Krazoa spirits making sense? That has to be a first! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drasiana Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 ANGST. The site just stopped working randomly! There were some lines of dialogue in that package that sort of seemed to indicate a few things. Here's what I gather from all the re-obtained dialogue: -The original plot included time travel, instigated by Krystal, who with Sabre has to go back in time to stop an evil force from wiping out the dinosaurs and the Krazoa -Drakor seems to have been part of a race of dudes trying to destroy the Krazoa? And there was some kind of anti-Krazoa propaganda happening -This seems to be linked back to Krystal, and there was something about her using portals to try to get back to her home planet or something, but having to sacrifice that to save Dinosaur Planet (that's what I gathered, anyway) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ala1n-J Posted February 11, 2012 Share Posted February 11, 2012 There were some lines of dialogue in that package that sort of seemed to indicate a few things. Here's what I gather from all the re-obtained dialogue: -The original plot included time travel, instigated by Krystal, who with Sabre has to go back in time to stop an evil force from wiping out the dinosaurs and the Krazoa -Drakor seems to have been part of a race of dudes trying to destroy the Krazoa? And there was some kind of anti-Krazoa propaganda happening -This seems to be linked back to Krystal, and there was something about her using portals to try to get back to her home planet or something, but having to sacrifice that to save Dinosaur Planet (that's what I gathered, anyway) ... I... I feel kinda butthurt after reading this. Why didn't they keep all of this in the final product? It wouldn't have seemed too hard IMO, all they had to do was replace Sabre with Fox, introduce him properly in the story and voilà! The fantasy-scifi mix was already established with Drakor's design and the time travel thing doesn't bother me, Andross could have worked on it at some point (though I would have kept him out of this game). The game, either DP or SFAd, would have been so much better if they kept those parts. Anyway thanks Dras. It also seems that according to that post, Krystal, even with Sabre, was design as a stranger to Dinosaur Planet. Was she already Cerinian in her DP portrayal? Or is it a typo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drasiana Posted February 12, 2012 Share Posted February 12, 2012 Yeah sorry the way I wrote that was a bit misleading. In Dinosaur Planet, though Krystal was an orphan (raised by the wizard Randorn, who while an original DP character there were still lines of dialogue including him in some of the Adventures dialogue there), she still seemed to be a native to the planet. However, in Adventures she was from Cerinia; the "answers to her parents' death/planet destruction", though, were not intended to be related to Andross, but this apparent war-type deal going on between the Krazoa and the evil dragon things or whatever they were. Oh, by the way; I realized I copypasted the text to someone over Skype, so look, here's all the dialogue that the dead site had: I wouldn't do that. Give me the SpellStone Wait! Did the king earthwalker not tell you? If you shut down this temple how do you think you are going to get back to your planet. Th moment that it i placed, the power in the Communication Chamber will stop. You'll be trapped here forever. Don't listen to his he's lying. You may speak the truth scales, but I'd rather remain here and save this wonderful planet than watch you destroy it. NOOOOOOOooooooo! Close your eyes Kyte. Partially changed text from DP: Dad, dad you're okay! Tricky, my son, you don't have to worry about me, I am the king. You must be Fox, Randorn spoke very highly of you. You know my Father? Of course. It is because of me that you are on Dinosaur Planet. My soldiers uncovered a chamber beneath this very temple, it was from there that I was able to contact, General Pepper. There are other planets out there? With other civilizations? Of course, we are not the only ones you know. Dad how do we get you out of here? You must go into the chamber beneath this temple and collect a SpellStone. It has been taken by the leader of the RedEye tribe. Bring it back to me, as only I can activate it. You're a Guardian? And it is a role that you will continue one day. I'm gonna be a Guardian, I'm gonna be a Guardian. Kamerian 2 (Drakor): I can taste your fear animal It is very sweet Do not believe everything the Krazoa have told you. We Kamerians did not start the Great War. But now it is time to end it. But by defeating the Krazoa you will destroy Dinosaur Planet. Why should I, Drakor be concerned With the fate of a pitiful race of dinosaurs? I will not stop even if I must obliterate this planet and all that live here. Nothing is more important! Even though the Dinosaurs believe in the Kamerian Dragon? They worshipped this heart as a god AAahh ..Yes, the great Kamerian Heart Though haven't you just destroyed their God? Even I believed the Krazoa were an evil race, Why would the Quan Ata Lachu be asking us to complete the alignment? They talk only of peace in the universe. You are more foolish than I thought The Quan Ata Lachu are a rare life form of pure evil Each individual spirit holds no powers But when combined they become the most deadly weapon in the Universe it will be focused through Warlock Mountain, creating the ultimate weapon of destruction. You talk of destruction and evil without once mentioning yourself My Father lies dying of wounds inflicted by you You do not understand! I understand the Krazoa have done nothing to harm us They built everything on this world Which the dinosaurs use for peace The Quan Ata Lachu are not what you say The alignment will finally bring peace to this Universe Your only wish is to continue the Great War The Krazoa only started the war to stop YOU from destroying us all As you wish If you will not see the truth then you must DIE! It wasn't indicated who all the lines belonged to, though. BUT OH LOOK, IT (sorta) EXPLAINS WHY KRYSTAL'S THERE AND HOW THE FUCK THE DINOSAURS CONTACTED GENERAL PEPPER, HMMMMMMM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Star Fox Runner Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 ANGST. The site just stopped working randomly! There were some lines of dialogue in that package that sort of seemed to indicate a few things. Here's what I gather from all the re-obtained dialogue: -The original plot included time travel, instigated by Krystal, who with Sabre has to go back in time to stop an evil force from wiping out the dinosaurs and the Krazoa -Drakor seems to have been part of a race of dudes trying to destroy the Krazoa? And there was some kind of anti-Krazoa propaganda happening -This seems to be linked back to Krystal, and there was something about her using portals to try to get back to her home planet or something, but having to sacrifice that to save Dinosaur Planet (that's what I gathered, anyway) Wow.......... the more new details I learn about what Dinosaur Planet could have been, the more depressed I get that it wasn't ever released......... I get the feeling that this could have been Rare's magnum opus had it been released. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ala1n-J Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 Thanks Dras for the text. Now I feel that an occasion to make Adventures fit in the Starfox universe has been scrapped due to rushed development. HRRRRNGH!! More seriously, it's just sad Rare didn't keep all those elements. Krystal had a backstory and a personal goal in the game, so did Drakor who could have become the Nemesis of the game, and Kyte and Randorn could be good supporting characters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Refurs Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 Where did you find the new sound files? This is great stuff ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gilgamesh Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 Hi again! Is there a program that can identify 3D objects in a file? I affirm nothing, but I'd like reversal, or confirmation. At the request "General", here is another sound files, attached.Believe in your quest Sabre.mp3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gilgamesh Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 The following names reflect a different version than the Gamecube. I sorted by name, the references found in the file. Krystal seg000:001071F0 00000023 C krystal.c: objGetAnimChange Errorn seg000:0018BAA8 0000000E C tHit Krystaln seg000:0018BAB8 0000000E C tHit Krystaln seg000:00248A48 0000001B C ttKrystal! How Is My Son?n Sabre seg000:00248A64 00000021 C ttSabre Is Just Glad Your Aliven seg000:00248D48 00000021 C ttYou Followed Later With Sabren seg000:00248E6C 00000024 C ttEither You Or Sabre Must Find Itn Randorn seg000:002489D4 00000020 C ttRandorn... Are You There ??n seg000:00248BA4 00000024 C ttWhat's happening to you Randorn?n Kyte seg000:00116FB0 00000022 C kyte has enterd an invalid staten seg000:00116FF0 00000013 C cleaning Up Kyte seg000:0011704C 0000002C C kyte startup warning, flight group is zeron seg000:001170C0 00000020 C Kyte Start on anon valid node seg000:00117254 00000036 C kyte error!, unable to find next curve node from %d!n seg000:00117310 00000045 C Node exists in curve network, that isn't Kyte AI, from curvenode %dn seg000:001173C0 00000018 C Performing Kyte action seg000:001173D8 00000018 C Performing Kyte action seg000:001173F0 0000002B C PERCH ::: READ KYTTE PERCH COMMAND nn seg000:001BE934 00000011 C KYTE TRAPPED n seg000:001BE948 00000012 C KYTE ESCAPPED n seg000:001E733C 00000023 C kyte dist %d interest range 50.0Fn seg000:002A7C78 00000011 C getting kyte inn seg000:002A7C8C 00000012 C getting kyte outn seg000:002A8828 00000015 C Kyte Landed Action Tricky seg000:001121D4 0000002E C error tricky should never stop when circlingn seg000:001122A4 0000002B C tricky wg %d->%d target wg %d, dest wg %dn seg000:001122D0 00000052 C tricky last walk group is zero. Has he been loaded within a walk group? %f %f %fn seg000:001123E4 00000075 C tricky error, target patch %d, targetWalkGroup %d, trickyWalkGroup %d, tricky last walkGroup %d, tricky in patch %dn seg000:0011245C 00000015 C tricky error 2!!!!!n seg000:00112650 0000002F C tricky left a valid area, pushing him back...n seg000:00282B2C 0000001A C Tricky Has Hit Me AAAgh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NS-Games Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 Don't get your hopes up too high. Story files do not guarantee that there is enough surviving programming code or game assets from DP to extract a functioning version out of it. SFAd was an exceptionally messy compile, yes, and there is probably some stuff still there, but I imagine large important chunks are missing or have been replaced with SFAd stuff. Just because they didn't clean-out the repository before final build does not mean much. You may be able to hack some small tidbits out, but would they be playable? I don't know. But I guarantee the entire original Dinosaur Planet is NOT on the SFAd disc. EDIT: "I am Fox McCloud, Royal Knight of the Lylat System." lolwut? Gotta love Find & Replace. lol I do agree here. I don't think there's really much to go by in terms of finding original programmed code on the game disc. However, there is quite a bit people have been able to dig out of the game's disc not only from beta builds of Star Fox Adventures, but of Dinosaur Planet itself. Now, this is essentially the same thing that we've seen with The Legend of Zelda Ocarina of Time. Many elements from the game's early beta builds have been found intact on the game's cartridge. So much so that there's entire teams out there trying to piece together original beta builds of the game using nothing but old screen shots and what they've been able to find on the game's cartridge. Who's to say this can't be done with Dinosaur Planet? Now I know there's not as much left from Dinosaur Planet as there is from Zelda 64, but there's at least enough there I think someone could work with it. I know it's most likely something that will never be done. But if I had the option I would have loved to see what this game was original supposed to be like. So I do agree, there may not be that much left intact, but if there was enough I would definitely like to see this done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gilgamesh Posted April 30, 2012 Share Posted April 30, 2012 I was talking about the presence of sprites Diddy Kong Racing 64, in the disc of Star Fox Adventures. As shown in the screenshot I made. There is also what looks like a planetary system. Unrelated to the racing game, I guess it could be the planets around the Dinosaur Planet. If among you, there are good users of Tiles Molester. Can you reconstruct correctly, the sprites in the file, and show us the result. http://64dd.net/modules/newbb/viewto...#forumpost5626 http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/7/capture1iz.jpg http://depositfiles....files/1fv50enyh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gilgamesh Posted May 2, 2012 Share Posted May 2, 2012 I posted on other forums to increase the number of readers, some able to make good use. I am pleased to see that Zoinkity has done an excellent job, this is the result. by Zoinkity » 02 May 2012 03:42 This dump includes almost all of the non-interlaced textures. I skipped over a few 'frame' textures for smoke (~42) and water (~36). There's a stack of interlaced ones that are DKR stuff not included because, well, I don't feel like manually altering a few hundred textures and they very obviously have nothing to do with DP. Excuse any that are flipped by accident. Was guessing at flags. http://www.mediafire...g154curi8503cr8 Doesn't look like anything from DP was in there, but it is rather neat to see cameos from another Rare title. I refer interested readers to the Unseen64 forum , or I posted some information about my discoveries. http://forum.unseen6....php?f=2&t=3126 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
someguy63- Posted May 2, 2012 Share Posted May 2, 2012 I would be interested in this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gilgamesh Posted May 5, 2012 Share Posted May 5, 2012 I watched the video made ​​by runehero124, and I noticed the presence of these planets, as Beta Objects, 0:17 to 0:20. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OSIDVpAOW7M Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DZComposer Posted May 6, 2012 Share Posted May 6, 2012 Wow, so the original DP story involved time travel. Interesting. I also lol at the laziness of that promo Krystal model in the "T-Pose" in on promo material. As far as the planets, re-using assets as place-holders during early development is a common practice in the game industry. All-in-all, it is amazing at how terribly bad the cleanup job on SFAd was. Most games have their repositories cleaned-up before the final build. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zzz Posted May 6, 2012 Share Posted May 6, 2012 Zzz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geo Stelar Posted May 6, 2012 Share Posted May 6, 2012 It would be nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RougetheBat4Real Posted May 20, 2012 Share Posted May 20, 2012 I think they should. As some kind of WiiWare game. That would be dynamite. Somebody call the doctor, I've got Dinosaur Planet fever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gilgamesh Posted May 27, 2012 Share Posted May 27, 2012 Today, I will make you listen to the voices of the twins Rocky and Rubble, if I understand is between Swapstone Hollow and Swapstone Circle. I made these two pieces from a file, which contains the voices of every character of Dinosaur Planet N64. There is in this file, two types of conversations. In part the N64 version, the characters are Sabre and Krystal, and other Fox and Tricky, as in Gamecube version. The second piece ends with a burp, the voice of a guardian who requests scarabs. http://depositfiles....files/x261agd7i http://depositfiles....files/2shc1vl3y Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roonifer Posted June 24, 2012 Author Share Posted June 24, 2012 Wow, gilgamesh, you're really working hard! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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