Ellanie Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 I still haven't put much time into Adventures, and I was still avoiding Nintendo games at the time that Dinosaur Planet was in development. As for the question at hand, would I be interested in Dinosaur Planet actually being released? Hmm... Maybe?? The main issue I see is the simple fact that the product, apparently, wasn't completed. We would have to expect a pretty substantial amount of manpower to go into compiling, cleaning, and possibly finishing an old game. We don't know if any copies of the original rom in later stages of development actually exist for such a project to be even feasible. However, as mentioned, such beta recreations have been made. We have working roms of StarFox 2, finished and fully translated into English, floating around the internet. We have others like Sonic 2 Beta a heavy duty hack, using left over data and old screen shots to rebuild the lost stages of the original game. It could be possible to hack and reprogram Adventures to retool the story the match more closely to the events of Dinosaur Planet, even if a real, working build of Dinosaur Planet were never found.But that's a lot of time and love from fans to make any chance of a playable Dinosaur Planet to ever exist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gilgamesh Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krock Posted July 2, 2012 Share Posted July 2, 2012 As some of you could probably tell, I'm a huge Rare fan, so yes, I would be interested. The game was looking to be a lot better than what it later became. I have a friend who went to E3 in 2000 and he played the game, according to him, what he played was vastly better than the final product. Well, it won't make much difference. DP was a prototype...no... more of a concept, You're flat out wrong. The sad part about the Star Fox conversion is that Dinosaur Planet was finished, and having to change the game at the end of development, counting the classic Rareware delay that occured, took up a lot of Rare's time. At Spaceworld 2000, Rare showed off a plethora of games that either they couldn't finish by law (Donkey Kong Racing, Diddy Kong Pilot, Donkey Kong Coconut Crackers, DKGCN), games that got delayed a billion times for Microsoft conversion (Ghoulies, Perfect Dark Zero, Kameo), and could never even start games that they said would come in the future (Banjo Threeie, Conker's Other Bad Day). So because Dinosaur Planet needed to be converted into Star Fox at Miyamoto's command, it forever fucked up Rare's time, and in away, Star Fox killed Rare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hidi Posted July 2, 2012 Share Posted July 2, 2012 While it would be nice to have seen the game as it originally meant to be, Rare doesn't even produce game for Nintendo anymore as they stopped near the end of developing SFAd. I think it is interesting though, what would Star Fox have been like had Dinosaur Planet remained the way it was intended? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellanie Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 Apparently, it would've meant StarFox would be a series much like Zelda games; every game using the same basic formula and mechanics, but a different iteration each time. Pretty much what most fans are asking Nintendo to start doing now with the franchise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hidi Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 Likely they should have done that from the start. I don't really think SFAd really works with Star Fox, and for obvious reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krock Posted July 4, 2012 Share Posted July 4, 2012 Apparently, it would've meant StarFox would be a series much like Zelda games; every game using the same basic formula and mechanics, but a different iteration each time. Pretty much what most fans are asking Nintendo to start doing now with the franchise. I think you read his question backwards. He meant if Dinosaur Planet were to remain the way that it was meant to be, how the Star Fox series would be affected. I shall answer that question. It wouldn't have any affect on Star Fox, and Star Fox would stick to the SF64 formula. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hidi Posted July 10, 2012 Share Posted July 10, 2012 Which is what Assault tried to do as a way of coming back from that...But it failed. I liked the artwork from Dinosaur Planet though (Being an artist, game artwork means a lot to me in terms of quality), Krystal looked less skimpy, and the concept of the game would have put an interesting game out to market with Zelda. I would have liked to play as both Krystal and Saber which was one of the features it would have had (Using the switch stone, you switch between the two). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WOLFjr Posted July 19, 2012 Share Posted July 19, 2012 I kind of want to, but I'm afraid I might accidentally wander into an area where I find myself running from a T-Rex (forgot the Starfox name for them was) like I was in Jurassic Park or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junior Posted July 20, 2012 Share Posted July 20, 2012 I'll probably have to wait a year at most from this point before someone goes and resurrects old Dinosaur Planet. It's such an amazing (sounding) game and the story is very deep and engaging. I'm definitely paying close attention to this thread for the considerable future. :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xWrath68x Posted August 25, 2012 Share Posted August 25, 2012 It looks okay I guess. I like the way it is now TBH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gilgamesh Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 For those who slept in the back of the class. A beautiful page made ​​by IOnEI Falcon, we can thank. http://www.rareminion.com/dp.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gilgamesh Posted September 10, 2012 Share Posted September 10, 2012 IOnEIFalcon has posted a video of almost an hour. This is the longest and most comprehensive Dinosaur Planet video, never seen before. Thank you again IOnEIFalcon. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roonifer Posted September 10, 2012 Author Share Posted September 10, 2012 G-Gilg... I'm speechless. This is a great find~! THANK YOU VERY MUCH for sharing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DZComposer Posted September 11, 2012 Share Posted September 11, 2012 I noticed what appears to be a large letter "A" on the helmet of the galleon's figurehead, a similar mark to Andross's bosses in SF64. How fucking ironic. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icy Posted September 11, 2012 Share Posted September 11, 2012 Holy wow asfhafgjaahgjafg that is amazing. Need to find a free hour and watch this whole thing. Amazing. I wonder how RareMinion is getting all this info lately. What, did they run into some kind of a beta cart or something? Regardless of anything, this is pretty amazing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roonifer Posted September 11, 2012 Author Share Posted September 11, 2012 I've contacted the owner of that video asking how he ever managed to get a hold of such a treasure. I hope he responds. *_* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psy_commando Posted September 11, 2012 Share Posted September 11, 2012 Damn, that's a great find ! Too bad it isn't a leaked rom Also, I was wondering, that webpage with the bio of the characters, do you think it can be trusted ? I never saw these bios on the internet archive backups of the official website. Also, what the hell is Sabre supposed to be ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drasiana Posted September 11, 2012 Share Posted September 11, 2012 Sabre is a Wolven, so he's a wolf, I guess. The character bios look like they were taken from some kind of instruction manual or game guide, the "pages" are all saved as images, but I'm not too sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psy_commando Posted September 11, 2012 Share Posted September 11, 2012 Sabre is a Wolven, so he's a wolf, I guess. The character bios look like they were taken from some kind of instruction manual or game guide, the "pages" are all saved as images, but I'm not too sure. Well he looks vaguely canine, but he got tiger stripes, and an unusual head shape :S And I'd be really surprised if those were scans. Looks like someone just wrote all this text on an image, for some odd website design reasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drasiana Posted September 11, 2012 Share Posted September 11, 2012 I didn't mean scans, but like a .pdf of what would be the manual. Also where are you seeing tiger stripes? Nevermind found the screenshots. Maybe he's supposed to be some kind of prehistoric-esque dire wolf-type thing. I'm just going by the name "Wolven" (also Randorn looks way more like a wolf, and he's Sabre's dad, so) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DZComposer Posted September 12, 2012 Share Posted September 12, 2012 Probably so people can't copy and paste. That or he doesn't know CSS and can only make a page look nice by using photoshop. Regardless, it's a waste of bandwidth. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Krystal Posted September 12, 2012 Share Posted September 12, 2012 As others have stated, the amount of info we have on Dinosaur Planet is no-where near enough to recreate the game. You're also vastly underestimating the complexity of making such a system. Games are the third most complicated forms of software in existence (after Operating Systems and Compilers). Software is the most complicated thing humans make. Even if we had every single piece of data about how Dinosaur Planet should have been built, all the art, textures, animations, sounds, etc. We still would be facing years of work. After all, RARE with it's team of (likely) 50 people took around 3 years to get Dinosaur Planet to the point that we see in trailers and gameplay videos. I would love to get to try out Dinosaur Planet in its original form. I'm glad more and more info continues to be unearthed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roonifer Posted September 12, 2012 Author Share Posted September 12, 2012 I created this thread while letting my wishful thinking get out of control. You know, when you want something so bad that you temporarily lose sight of reality? I understand that the task of bringing Dinosaur Planet back to life is impossible with the little information we have, but it's this "what-if" scenario that brought us all of this Dinosaur Planet material that we previously thought had been lost. I just wanted to send a thank you to those who are contributing. I'm actually very surprised you guys took this seriously. Keep everything coming, if you can! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drasiana Posted September 12, 2012 Share Posted September 12, 2012 I dunno, that hour of footage of various levels really makes me believe that the game was pretty close to completion when it was cancelled, and it wouldn't be a matter of "build this game from the ground up" like everyone previously believed. There probably isn't much in the way of remnants of the original pass when Fox was added to it (where initially, to my knowledge, they'd still kept some initial aspects of the game like "Krystal has a point" and Drakor being the main villain), but Dinosaur Planet for the N64 possibly does have a playable build out there somewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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