Harlow Posted February 8, 2012 Share Posted February 8, 2012 When I was in Uruguay, I learned that Presdential voting is compulsory. If you don't vote, it comes in a fine (not the one that really bankrupts you, but a fine's a fine). At first I thought it wasn't a fair move, but then, after watching a great amount of apathy between people my age, I'm starting to think the idea isn't completely crazy. Given the fact that other compulsory-voting countries enforce the law quite fairly (non-compulsory or the elderly and the disabled), I think it may be a good idea. What's your say? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redeemer Posted February 8, 2012 Share Posted February 8, 2012 I say it should be a right. Making it an obligation is like trying to force you to chose one piece of shit out of a box of shits. Sometimes, you'd rather pass. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icy Posted February 8, 2012 Share Posted February 8, 2012 Redeemer said it. It's a right. No one should be forced to vote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harlow Posted February 8, 2012 Author Share Posted February 8, 2012 I say it should be a right. Making it an obligation is like trying to force you to chose one piece of shit out of a box of shits. Sometimes, you'd rather pass. Sometimes, life itself it's a box of shit. Plus, it's only once every 4-5 or so years, and, if you're in order with your papers, it's at no cost. If you really don't want to vote, try getting your own void or vote for either the most whatev candidate or the one that you feel's less shitty. In the end, you might even find voting an obligation at your forties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prince Elite Posted February 8, 2012 Share Posted February 8, 2012 It's compulsory in Australia too. I figure that voting is a right because it's your chance to have some small decision in how politics goes. But there's also the guide that politicians "are not to be trusted." Edit: Of course, it's simple to throw your vote away if you don't like the participants. They take your name, cross you off the list and hand you a paper. You don't have to write anything on it, or write something crazy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drasiana Posted February 9, 2012 Share Posted February 9, 2012 Right. Even if there is lots of apathy, that in itself is an indicator for politicians or future politicians on the changes that need to be made. Dissatisfaction is a problem that is not overcome by simply forcing people to pick the lesser of however many evils they're offered. isn't this sort of a counter-point thing though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harlow Posted February 9, 2012 Author Share Posted February 9, 2012 Right. Even if there is lots of apathy, that in itself is an indicator for politicians or future politicians on the changes that need to be made. Dissatisfaction is a problem that is not overcome by simply forcing people to pick the lesser of however many evils they're offered. isn't this sort of a counter-point thing though You voted obligation, though Iunno. Doesn't a poll make it automatically a "Polling Place" topic? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drasiana Posted February 9, 2012 Share Posted February 9, 2012 no i didn't gosh what are you talking about harlow i was totally paying attention and definitely hit the right option tee hee hee I've seen topics with polls in the Counter-Point before. It just seems more Counter-Pointy because it's about political business... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xortberg Posted February 9, 2012 Share Posted February 9, 2012 I've seen Star Fox topics with polls get moved to the Polling Place, so I understand the confusion completely. I suppose the mods will decide if it needs to be moved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psygonis Posted February 9, 2012 Share Posted February 9, 2012 Definitely a right, but I feel sorry that so many people don't go voting. Even voting blank is a message that carries more weight than not going to the voting office. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harlow Posted February 9, 2012 Author Share Posted February 9, 2012 Definitely a right, but I feel sorry that so many people don't go voting. Even voting blank is a message that carries more weight than not going to the voting office. I do think that message would be definetly more understood that just ignoring them. They wont go: OMGAVOTER'SMISSINGSOMETHING'SWRONGABORTABORT! if they can't keep track of the non-voters no i didn't gosh what are you talking about harlow i was totally paying attention and definitely hit the right option tee hee hee OH U! *cannedlaughs* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harlow Posted February 11, 2012 Author Share Posted February 11, 2012 Speaking about voting, on Sunday I'll be voting for the first time in my life. The presidential primaries for the opposition coalition in Venezuela. Really hope they can pull it through Oct. 7. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rin Posted February 12, 2012 Share Posted February 12, 2012 A right. Besides, if people were forced to vote, they would simply just pick randomly to get it done and over with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Posted March 29, 2012 Share Posted March 29, 2012 A right. Because, the people that will really think about their decision will be the ones that vote by choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ballisticwaffles Posted March 29, 2012 Share Posted March 29, 2012 Neither, you dont have to vote. You could always just establish a monarchy and devolve back to poo flinging and Witch trials. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scourge Posted March 29, 2012 Share Posted March 29, 2012 Neither, you dont have to vote. You could always just establish a monarchy and devolve back to poo flinging and Witch trials. As much as modern tendencies seem to disagree, I would rather we advance forward into the times of space travel than go back to the dark ages, mostly because our time on earth is growing increasingly short Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TCPeppyTc Posted March 29, 2012 Share Posted March 29, 2012 Right. The very fact of forcing someone to make a decision is undemocratic, in and of itself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ballisticwaffles Posted March 30, 2012 Share Posted March 30, 2012 As much as modern tendencies seem to disagree, I would rather we advance forward into the times of space travel than go back to the dark ages, mostly because our time on earth is growing increasingly short ANd by increasingly short you mean "WE iz all gonna blow our selves up because Fuck humanity!" NEwai i suggest none of us vote on the topic to show our right to vote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thundercracker Posted April 1, 2012 Share Posted April 1, 2012 Not much of a political person, but I think it should be a right. Considering alot of people, like myself, don't pay much attention to politics. So if it was an obligation, then the people who don't pay any attention to politics wouldn't really know what they're doing. Which would mean that the votes wouldn't be exactly accurate to what the people truly believe is right. Kind of like picking a name from a hat, not really caring what is picked, and just going with it no matter what. That's how I see it, anyways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
"User" Posted April 6, 2012 Share Posted April 6, 2012 It should be a right, never an obligation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falco'sFinest Posted April 7, 2012 Share Posted April 7, 2012 ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vulvokunvrii Posted June 9, 2012 Share Posted June 9, 2012 It should be your RIGHT to vote-that way you influence the direction of your own country just a tiny bit, feel good that, "Hey I made a difference today! (no matter how small that was)", and at least you had the option to do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellanie Posted July 10, 2012 Share Posted July 10, 2012 A right. I vote, but I do so because I do actually give two shits about who runs my country. However, in the same vein as everyone else, I don't want a bunch of apathetic and ignorant people being forced to. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StarFoxfan-FUR_ever Posted July 10, 2012 Share Posted July 10, 2012 A right. The way I see it, if people are forced to vote when they really don't want to, they will skim through the various positions, picking randomly. Imagine how this would affect the end results....especially in terms of the voters who rely on campaign ads to pick a candidate.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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