Guest Mr. N Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 Say goodbye to the Windows start button. Microsoft has gotten rid of it from the latest build of Windows 8. Hitting the Web over the weekend, screenshots of the new Windows 8 build display the "super bar," but without the start button orb on the left, according to The Verge. Build 8220 will be the final version released before the beta, now known as the Consumer Preview, debuts before the end of the month. Until its untimely (or timely) death, the Windows 8 start button located in the Metro UI offered access to the search, share, devices, and settings panels. The Windows start button in the desktop simply returned you to the Metro UI. To replace the start button, Microsoft will reportedly turn that space into a hot corner, sources told The Verge. Hovering your mouse or swiping your finger over that spot will bounce you back and forth between the Metro UI and the desktop in an attempt to offer a more consistent experience between the two environments. Fans of the traditional start button may not be happy. But The Verge believes the move is final given that Microsoft has been chewing on this decision for awhile. On the plus side, the super bar will retain its Windows 7 functionality as home to pinned shortcuts for launching your favorite desktop applications. Windows 8 will also sport an enhanced "charms bar," a group of transparent icons that provide access to key features, added The Verge. The charms bar can actually fill in as a replacement for the defunct Metro UI start button by offering links to the search, share, devices, and settings panels. A number of Microsoft users have expressed concern over Windows 8's reliance on the Metro UI and touch-based input. PC users in particular have complained that the new UI doesn't lend itself as easily to navigating via conventional mouse and keyboard, at least as seen in the current Developer Preview. Acknowledging the concerns and tweaking some aspects of Windows 8 in response, Microsoft has promised that the new Consumer Preview will be more user friendly for traditional desktop users. Source: http://news.yahoo.com/microsoft-removes-start-button-in-windows-8.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrypticQuery Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 I know what version of Windows I'm NOT going to update to! I'm curious though; is Windows 8 supposed to be a fully-fledged release, or is it only going to be put out on mobile platforms? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mr. N Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 I know what version of Windows I'm NOT going to update to! I'm curious though; is Windows 8 supposed to be a fully-fledged release, or is it only going to be put out on mobile platforms? Not sure, I may guess it's fully-fledged release. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrypticQuery Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 Not sure, I may guess it's fully-fledged release. In that case; They're removing the one thing that is easily identifiable with Windows! Not to mention that they are potentially alienating their own userbase. O_o Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xidphel Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 Classified to the same place I put the lack of Megaman in MvC3: I get it's a classic or tradition but in the end, it doesn't MAKE Windows. If it can work well without it and is easy to get used to, I might get it. If Windows 8 turns out to be a Vista in a way the start button wouldn't fix, I won't get it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arashikage Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 Windows 8 is optimized for tablet PCs, I have the developer preview, and I don't like it much, mostly because of its interface. There's no start button, the windows key takes you to a whole new screen with different features in it. Really, Microsoft is just throwing features at us now. However, there WAS a windows button in the desktop section. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patch93 Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 Seriously, everything Ballmer does makes Microsoft one step closer to it's grave. We've been using the start button since 1995! If they don't bring it back in the final version or do it by Windows 9, I'm gonna be fucking pissed. D8< 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FoxMcCloud Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 Oh my look at all these comments. I wish I had gotten myself in on this one earlier. So it does look like that windows 8 WILL be a full fledged release. It is optimized for Touch platforms, and the mobile tablet platform as well. I think that many will be upset with the new button change, and with my constant contact with friends in the dev team, and multiple individuals that I know who work and have worked for Microsoft have set their minds set on the start button being removed. I do not think that this is a bad thing. I have been running the dev preview of 8 and some updated builds. Not at liberty to discuss though. I will have to say I wish the Dev team would change their minds about some things. The start button will be in a new way, not the same as we are used too, but I have a feeling they won't get rid of it just yet. Also don't just rely on the Dev preview for all of the assumptions. They haven't release an updated build of that in........a while. Also I am excited to hear that the consumer Preview will be available soon! . Also be sure to follow the developer blogs here. http://blogs.msdn.com/b/b8/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jesseboyd7 Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 I remember one time at work that my supervisor told me that he tried the beta version of Windows 8. His experience of Windows 8 was soooo terrible that it was like windows 3.1 or 95 LOL! I would stick with Windows 7 for now. I like the appearance and platform of it. In fact a little change of subject. The Comptia A+ certification exam latest objectives still covers Windows 2000, XP, and Vista. I dunno if they even cover Windows 7. But 8? That's far away for now for Comptia! Hehe! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patch93 Posted February 11, 2012 Share Posted February 11, 2012 I remember one time at work that my supervisor told me that he tried the beta version of Windows 8. His experience of Windows 8 was soooo terrible that it was like windows 3.1 or 95 LOL! I would stick with Windows 7 for now. I like the appearance and platform of it. In fact a little change of subject. The Comptia A+ certification exam latest objectives still covers Windows 2000, XP, and Vista. I dunno if they even cover Windows 7. But 8? That's far away for now for Comptia! Hehe! Actually, 3.1 and 95 weren't that bad. Sure 95 did blue screen quite a bit at times, but it did have it's work arounds. : P WINDOWS ME ON THE OTHER HAND! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FoxMcCloud Posted February 11, 2012 Share Posted February 11, 2012 The Comptia A+ certification exam latest objectives still covers Windows 2000, XP, and Vista. I dunno if they even cover Windows 7. Really?! I took it 3 years ago and they stated they were just adding Win 7 in the test questions WINDOWS ME ON THE OTHER HAND! Best damn operating System EVER................. if you wanted to destroy yourself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deploy Posted February 11, 2012 Share Posted February 11, 2012 I sure am glad to use Mac OSX. :-P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoneWolf Posted February 11, 2012 Share Posted February 11, 2012 Quite honestly I won't really be able to have an opinion on weather or not it's better until I try it myself. However I am slightly nervous about them supposedly building the OS on HTML. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrypticQuery Posted February 11, 2012 Share Posted February 11, 2012 I sure am glad to use Mac OSX. /obligatory :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Showtime 1-1 Posted February 11, 2012 Share Posted February 11, 2012 okay, without the start button, I have no idea how to use a computer. May as well sell me a car with no steering wheel. This could be a problem. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rin Posted February 11, 2012 Share Posted February 11, 2012 How pointless, annoying, and ridiculous. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geo Stelar Posted February 12, 2012 Share Posted February 12, 2012 I don't agree with them removing their trademark button. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fox-Shot Posted March 1, 2012 Share Posted March 1, 2012 Why on earth does Micro$oft keeping making their corners sharper in new things, it doesn't look better, it looks worse, I miss the first Xbox Xperience where all the boxes were round and the menu navigated at 60 FPS, and now they're taking the strange menu ideas and applying them to Windows, thank god it seems to be aimed to not be a main thing for desktops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
!Corgi Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 Have the Windows 8 Beta. LOVE IT. Removed the button on the desktop made the Windows Flag key on your keyboard pull up this: You find your app either by having it pinned here or simply start typing its name The next great thing is that it has full support for multiple screens, Remember that Drag to each side feature in Windows 7? It has a new Gesture sensing software ability that makes it support all different kinds of window arrangements and even a drag and drop onto your windows phone / tablet. Xbox live Marketplace is now fully intergrated with Windows Games, Think of it as the Windows Phone and App Store also on your PC. The apps that can run on your PC and Phone are called Metro apps now. One app purchase for all platforms. Your Xbox Live account is also intergrated, See whos online on your friends list, Chat, Voice Chat, Manage your account, ect... New full support for IPV6 Connections (Thank god!) Better Plug & Play Adapters More Support for old-apps (Compatibility Mode intergrated) More User Friendly I swear, If you dont like the new windows your sick in the head. Honestly. grab the Developers Preview here: http://windows.microsoft.com/en-ca/windows-8/consumer-preview Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 Having the Start button removed isn't all that bad, just more annoying. They should have just left it alone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrypticQuery Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 I'm not a fan of making my desktop into something similar to a mobile device; they are separate entities for a reason. Just the mere thought of using that developer's beta interface to, say, word-process or launch steam, seems cringe-worthy. It just looks overly complicated for what used to be either going to the start-button or double clicking on a shortcut. The interface itself also looks cluttered IMO; too much information is bombarding me at once. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DZComposer Posted March 14, 2012 Share Posted March 14, 2012 Windows 8 to a tech support guy: The guy in the blue shirt is Steve Ballmer, Microsoft CEO. BTW, the Start Menu did not start with Windows 95. It started with OS/2 Warp. Windows 95's GUI was heavily based on OS/2. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rin Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 I am going to feel so bad for the tech support people. S'not really their faults. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patch93 Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 Windows 8 to a tech support guy: The guy in the blue shirt is Steve Ballmer, Microsoft CEO. BTW, the Start Menu did not start with Windows 95. It started with OS/2 Warp. Windows 95's GUI was heavily based on OS/2. True. BTW, words cannot describe how much epic win that comic you just made has. 8D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icy Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 So I broke down and installed the Windows 8 preview over my old Vista partition. It's awesome! I thought it would be really stupid with the tablet interface and all, but it's actually very well designed, fast, efficient, clean, and easy to use. I'm also very glad you can still use the old, more standard 7-like interface if you like, by simply going to "Desktop" or "Explorer". It's nice. No real reason to shell out the money once the actual release hits, if you have 7 already, but it is a nice improvement, even over 7. Lots of new features I haven't even touched yet, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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