Luminous-red Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 I have been wondering about that, we know that it is mostly believed that he died during an ambush on Venom, however, we also have the mistery of his appereance on the final mission during the hard path of Star Fox 64, so his status is unclear, and has developed on to be one of the main mysteries of the series. If he`s dead, why he appeared on venom to aid fox?, was it just fox`s hallucination?, if that`s so, how could fox have found the way out by something that he imagined?, and if he`s alive, why doesn`t he return to corneria?, what prevents him from doing so?, does he resides in another dimension?, it could be that or whatever theory about him appears. It`s true that we as fans have speculated a lot about the true nature of his fate, but none of it comes to a proper conclusion due to the lack of hints or clues about the subject throughout the series, and i dont think Nintendo is too focused on dealing on the subject on any game that has come afterwards. While new Star Fox games probably come up in the future, i want to ask if any of you know if Fox`s father`s fate will eventually be resolved in the future or it will remain a mistery for gamer`s to speculate. Personally, i cannot imagine the series going without touching the subject at least once more, so i hope new details come of it in the future, but it`s important to note that his supposed death is the main reason of the existence of events in 64, and the whole reason of the existence of the current Star Fox team, so i don`t know what to think of it about being resolved one day. Thank you for taking the time to read this, and i apologize if my English is bad, it`s not my native language. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrypticQuery Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 [Your English is actually better than some of the native speakers here, don't worry about it. ] The short answer to your question is that we'll just have to wait and see. The mere fact that Nintendo even bothered giving James a halfway-decent backstory is a marvel to behold in itself, not to mention that there are still possibilities for mystery and twists/turns. If we do see a new Star Fox game in the near future, I'd hope it would elaborate on characterization and fill in some gaping plot-holes. [Not to mention in the SNES comics, James was sucked into another dimension and ended up reappearing on some type of whale-like ship. ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harlow Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 Well, I don't think they will. But I think, if Command's left out (because a friggin hallucination can't destroy the main antagonist) it's all in Fox's mind. At least the escape scene from 64 seems pretty interesting it being a "Word of God" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patch93 Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 Taken from the Japanese Star Fox 64 manual: "Andorf set a trap for James and Peppy, from which James did not survive." source: http://ign64.ign.com...0/060767p1.html James is dead, end of story. As for James appearing to save Fox at the end of Venom 2 in SF64, it was most likely either a ghost or an hallucination. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Shaper Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 Maybe James is made of Darkmatter, and when he died he simply resurrected into a less powerful version of himself..... James-Two.... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icy Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 Maybe James is made of Darkmatter, and when he died he simply resurrected into a less powerful version of himself..... James-Two.... *Like* Honestly? We'll have to wait and see. SF64's Venom sequence… It's interesting. I think James could certainly still be alive and I think we may see him in action later on in the series. Call that wishful thinking, but this happens all the time in other games, books, stories/series in general so it's certainly possible. We'll see more of James, whether he's alive or dead, or in a flashback, etc… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xidphel Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 Yeah. I always told myself he's might be alive. In Star Fox, it's said he's appeared as a space whale and in Lylat Wars, he helps you escape. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaos_Leader Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 Do I think Jame's Fate will be revealed? Probably not. The likely reason: the mere asking of the question stimulates far more interest than revealing whatever truth there might or might not be. If they ever officially decide what happened to James, it shuts off that interest, no matter how good/bad the explanation might be. Keeping the question mark dangling in the air holds our attention, keeps us wanting more, and drives us to draw individual conclusions for ourselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the cool cuy Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 Appearend again in Command. My personal theory is that he is half dead and will die if he leaves Venom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rin Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 Didn't he become a space whale in the comics too, or something to that effect? Either way, I severely doubt his fate will be revealed. It's one of those things where it's better to leave it to the imagination, and, as Chaos said, keeps everyone wanting more. I personally always believed he died, and that his appearance in 64 was his ghost. And even if Fox was thinking it all up, it's still feasible. You'd be amazed at what people can imagine in a situation like that. And your English is perfectly fine. (: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zzz Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 Zzz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ala1n-J Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 (edited) Chaos and Psyche already said it, James' fate is not going to be revealed, for the speculation factor that "keeps people wanting more". However, I wish more of this guy's past was revealed. He was Fox's father and Peppy's friend in the first Starfox team. From these two elements the one that has been more developped (or speculated on to be correct) was the Starfox team part. How him, Peppy and Pigma flied together, how Pigma betrayed the team, how he "sacrificed" himself to let Peppy escape... But what about his father role? Right now his relationship with Fox is just "I am a voice that gives advices to my son, who wants to avenge me!" Sure, but why is James such an inspiration for his son? How old was Fox when his father "died"? This is important IMO because it will define how much influence James had on Fox and also how much Peppy replaced James as Fox's father figure. I think this could be a good theme to treat among others : the father-son relationship. How do father and son look alike? Or how do they differ from each other? What has the son learned from his father? How does the son see his father? Does the son know a side of his father that wasn't shown in public? That theme can be extended to Andross and Andrew, maybe the nephew knows a better side of that uncle he admires... Out of the father-son relationship, was he really the man everyone seems to tell? Not saying reality should completely differ from his reputation, but give us more elements on him to get a more accurate impresson, like how Farewell Beloved Falco, though non-canonical, gave us more info on Falco, Katt and their relationship. The thing about knowing James' story is that it can define future games : Fox's goal in SF64 was basically "kill the guy who killed my father". Once it is done, what next? How will James count in the future since he seems to be so important to Fox? It has to be defined more than just "Hey, Fox is in a perillous situation! Let's put the "Obi-Wan Kenobi word" here!" At this point, a military instructor or even Peppy could fill the job. Something to make the father really special has to be found. Personally, I think he's dead and Fox "sees" him in dire situations when he should not give up. One thing is that Andross worked on the subject of mind and spirit, like telekinesis. It is plausible that James' spirit flies in space, out of any material barrier, following Fox in a spiritual way... To me it was never really a mystery to begin with. Sure the whole not knowing aspect is all good and stuff but think about it... Wouldn't it be weird if he was still alive and he totally just vanished right after saving Fox without staying with him? It also cheapens the effect if they reveal that it was not his ghost/spirit/whatever you feel like calling it. James was used to create an emotional climax to the final battle and it worked perfectly. If Nintendo ever wants to milk the series with revealing James being alive it was a complete retcon to me because it was never meant to be that way. R3dfive, you pretty much sum it up. And you're right about not making James alive. It wouldn't even fit the character IMO. Edited February 14, 2012 by Ala1n-J Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scourge Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 I certainly hope not, ambiguity is such a wonderful thing. Nothing ever can compare to what we have imagined (half the reason Duke Nukem Forever was absolute shit), No matter what nintendo can devise as Jame's fate, its not at all what we have imagined, and no matter what they do, even if they make him the lylatian equivalent of Jesus, It'll still be a dissappointment. The human mind is its own best entertainer, because nothing else knows it better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prince Elite Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 Taken from the Japanese Star Fox 64 manual: "Andorf set a trap for James and Peppy, from which James did not survive." source: http://ign64.ign.com...0/060767p1.html James is dead, end of story. As for James appearing to save Fox at the end of Venom 2 in SF64, it was most likely either a ghost or an hallucination. Andorf? How odd, and there are such things as Retcons. Nintendo could simply change everything! The series has to be continued in order for it to happen. As to current events, I don't think Nintendo would have put him in the games if they didn't at least have some plan for him. Even if they don't intend to use it, they might have some ideas. If James is truly dead, which would be a shame. The reasonable explanations could be either Fox was hallucinating. On Venom, possibly he just remembered the way he came? We'll never know unless the series continues, I do think they have a plan for James though. Come on Nintendo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gestalt Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 We'll we see it...no more than likely not... Do I want to see more?...Yes, yes, yes! DO WANT! (by the way welcome, hope to see you around ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thu'um Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 No, James's fate will never be revealed. Why? because if they say he is alive 1/2 of the star fox fans get upset, if they say he is dead the other half get upset. They are better of not answering the question just yet, and an't in a position to after having almost no successful games since adventures Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TCPeppyTc Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 Excellent questions alan 1J. I think It will never defnitivly be revealed, but probably best if he's dead. Because if not, it woudl make no sense for James to miss out on reuniting with his son and best friend. Also how could he be chilling around on venom for years in his arwing? Too much suspension of disbelief. On a different note, I really do beleive a starfox retcon is coming soon to retrostudios. I am almost positive! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thunderflare Posted March 20, 2012 Share Posted March 20, 2012 Here's a mystery, In starfox assault you can supposadly play as James in multiplayer after you have played 380 vs matches, I rarely get to play vs mode so I can't say for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire Yoshi Posted March 21, 2012 Share Posted March 21, 2012 I really don't think Nintendo cares enough about Starfox to get into that sort of story material. :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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