Harlow Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 And I have no problem with Mexican people. The vast majority of my friends are Mexican. And I don't mind dual language billboards, of which there are plenty of. It's when I see a McDonald's billboard showing a Filet O'Fish in pure Spanish that it gets annoying. I love the Filet O'Fish sandvich and if there's a special or something being advertised on that billboard I want to know about it without having to learn Spanish. Is it honestly unreasonable to expect a billboard in America to not be solely in Spanish? I have no interest in learning Spanish. There are plenty of other languages I would much rather learn instead, such as Finnish, Russian, German, Japanese, Italian, and expand my Greek vocabulary past swear words. There's a whole appendage of land south of Mexico (I think you know this, but still) And I don't think McDonalds of all the places would be the one to alienate English-speaking Americans with coded advertising. It will advertise the same shit; Spanish, English, Kilngon, Pig-Latin, w/e. Again, it all depends where you live how the advertising will take shape. Seattle? Surely all English. Maine? Baton Rouge? Maybe some French in there. El Paso? Screw you señor. And, even though it's great you want to learn all those langauges, you have to recognize which is becoming more important in your area. P.S: You don't even wanna know how us Spanish-speakers alienate each other. It's like British and American English multiplied by a thousand. Spanish is different regarding the country. ^That counts as a Pet Peeve for many. If Steve and I ever met, we won't be able to understand us mutually with all that slang. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fana McCloud Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 I'd kinda expect a billboard out in a public place to at a minimum have the primary language of the country it's in - bi-lingual is cool by me, but seriously, have some English on it too. I don't want to be alienated by the accident of living in a neighborhood that has a lot of Hispanics when the country is still predominantly English speaking. Whether that expectation is realistic in an ever changing world is another thing entirely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drasiana Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 Itt white english-speakers mad because not everything is directed at white english-speakers ANYWAY LET'S END THIS DERAIL AND START A COUNTER-POINT TOPIC OR SOMETHING IDK pet peeve: When you open a road map and can't figure out how the hell you're supposed to close it and end up with a horribly sad lump of confused paper by the end of it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harlow Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 Hard, dry lemons. And when those are the only ones in the supermarket. Some people just want to watch the world burn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vy'drach Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 It's hard to read voice, some people don't get the joke, etc etc, "this is SFO". Anyway, the fact that you're bitching about not being able to read an ad for a McDonalds fishburger in Pure Untainted English is like, Peak Amurrickan. I'm sure if you're that desperate for greasy McD's specials there are other routes to obtain that information that don't involve having an aneurism over the fact that enough people speak a language different from you to warrant advertisements directed at them. edit: nm rhetorical just think maybe the next time about why you feel like you need to say "I'm not racist, but..." before saying something It's not just about a fish sandvich, it's any billboard really, I was just using fish sandviches as an example. This is a pet peeve topic, y'know, things that tend to be mildly irritating. It's not an end of the world deal if I don't understand the billboard, and I don't want to know what it says to the point that I will go out of my way to look up the information, it's just irritating that I am missing out on a portion of the wealth of knowledge billboards can afford because I don't speak Spanish in America, where *insert corporation here* decided they wanted to put a billboard up solely in a language that isn't the predominant one, when it can easily be bi-lingual. It doesn't even need to be Spanish, just that's the only one I've ever seen it happen with. French, Italian, Korean, Tralfalmadorian, would be the same way. And if the tables are turned, and say I was on vacation in... oh, let's say Russia, and I saw a billboard for something solely in English, I'd feel that'd be pretty bullshit as well, believe it or not. And the reason why I made the distinction of saying "I'm not racist, but..." is due to personal experience, if I don't make the distinction, and I make a negative statement about anything that is even remotely associated with a culture, I'm suddenly some sort of neo-nazi, white supremist skinhead that wants to purge all the nonwhites in the name of racial purity. I once had an encounter with a girl in high school who flipped her fucking lid at me because I said the sound of Japanese school bells would probably get annoying pretty fast (we were in a discussion about living in Japan). Apparently, she was part Japanese and acted like I had insulted the entirety of Japanese culture in every possible way. I can not overstate how much she flipped. The only way she could of reacted worse is if she kneed me in the groin then threw me off the third story railing we were standing next to. I've had a whole slew of idiotic meetings like this, hence why I say "I'm not racist, but..." It's just to help avoid idiotic drama. There's a whole appendage of land south of Mexico (I think you know this, but still) I know, I was just responding to Dras with her implication that the reason it annoys me is because I find Mexicans lazy, which I do not. Now as for pet peeves, when someone here asks me if I want some tortilla chips, only to find out that they're unsalted. Unsalted tortilla chips are just a bag of lies. Speaking of tortilla chips, I get Salsa Verde Doritos, and every now and then catch a little flak for getting them as "no one else likes them," only to discover that my mom has eaten over half the bag before I get to them. Also, when someone yells something from across the house then doesn't really listen for the response, leading me to have to yell it multiple times, and often get up and yell it out my door before they finally get it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drasiana Posted February 10, 2013 Share Posted February 10, 2013 I don't speak Spanish in America, where *insert corporation here* decided they wanted to put a billboard up solely in a language that isn't the predominant one Except it's predominant in the area where it's erected, otherwise *insert corporation here* wouldn't spend thousands of dollars on it because it would be a waste of money. The point I'm making here is that it's not always about you. I was just responding to Dras with her implication that the reason it annoys me is because I find Mexicans lazy, which I do not. but there's people around here with the mentality that they shouldn't learn English in America, but rather everyone else should learn Spanish. I have no interest in learning Spanish. Well, here's my personal experience: Everyone who's needed to add an "I'm not racist, but..." disclaimer is usually actually pretty racist. Also you can be casually racist without being Literally Hitler, nice way to blow things out of proportion. I'm just responding to things you've said yourself, buddy. Anyway I'm done with this, you've dug this hole deep enough. Also please don't try to backtrack and say that they should be bilingual when your original post says "you're in America, learn English". Pet Peeve: when microwaved popcorn bags are duds. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faisul Posted February 10, 2013 Share Posted February 10, 2013 Well, Vydrach, if you do live in a predominantly Spanish-speaking area, chances are things will be advertised and displayed mostly in Spanish. The alternative would involve quite a bit of work and money Micky D Corp. might not be willing to spend because they are a gross company. I don't know the demographics of your area but it sounds like it's pretty heavily Spanish. Spanish, as you probably know well, is one of the major languages spoken across the world and for many Spanish monoglots learning English isn't a worthy investment of their time when they already live in an area where their first language is widespread in use. The same goes for any large enough group of people sharing a language in a limited area, really. In other words, if you can get by speaking your own language in a country where another language is nominally dominant perfectly well, because everyone else speaks your language, there is little incentive in learning the 'official' language. On topic, every time I go to sit down on my sofa I stub my toe on the table. Every god-damn time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vy'drach Posted February 10, 2013 Share Posted February 10, 2013 Well, here's my personal experience: Everyone who's needed to add an "I'm not racist, but..." disclaimer is usually actually pretty racist. Also you can be casually racist without being Literally Hitler, nice way to blow things out of proportion. I'm just responding to things you've said yourself, buddy. Anyway I'm done with this, you've dug this hole deep enough. Also please don't try to backtrack and say that they should be bilingual when your original post says "you're in America, learn English". Those quotes of yours are taken out of context. I said some people feel everyone else should learn Spanish instead of them having to learn English in a country that is predominantly an English speaking language, which there are. At what part is that implying it's an entirety of a culture, or a majority, or even a considerable minority? Hell, at what part is it even saying Mexican? I've also encountered El Salvadorian, Brazilian, and I believe an Argentinian with that mentality. And that's just hispanics with that mentality, I've encountered a few from other branches of humanity. You're acting like Dermot when I said I ran into a gay man who felt that all straight people should kiss his ass as hard and much as they could just because some straight people were treating him like crap for being gay. He was suddenly off like I'd accused all gay people ever in the history of anything of being like that. And I wasn't blowing anything out of proportion, or even really exaggerating. I was being literal. I've been called those things over the silliest of statements. Granted not all at once, and the part about wanting to purge the land in the name of racial purity was just an addition I put in there for shits and giggles, but no, I was not blowing it out of proportion that much. And you're right, I did say that, and it was wrong of me. It was neither a proper message nor the point I was trying to get across, and for that I apologize. And Faisul, you'd actually be surprised. If you were to go into the businesses around here and speak Spanish, most of them wouldn't know what to do. My friend Johnny's mom doesn't speak English very well, and it's pretty hard on her because of it. Now as for the topic, pistachio nuts that aren't split. Also, and this one most of y'all won't understand, New Conglomerate MAX suits with Hacksaws. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drasiana Posted February 10, 2013 Share Posted February 10, 2013 Put your deraily stuff in spoilers so we don't continue to shit up the topic, tia You were blowing it out of proportion in the sense that I was not calling you Actually Hitler for suggesting that your statement that all them Hispanics should SPEAK AMURRICKAN IN AMURRICKA, which you also just admitted to saying and apologized for so okay, was a little racist-sounding. And for fuck's sake, comparing me to Dermot for being offended by a statement you just admitted you were in the wrong for making? Seriously? The only justification that Dermot has is that, well, typically gay people are treated like shit by straight people, and by that comparison, Hispanics are screamed at to "speak english, you're in america", called lazy, and entirely conflated illegal immigrants. So yes, people are in the right to suspect someone that starts off a statement with "I'm not racist, but..." and then goes on to flat-out state a hallmark of the typical racism that effect these groups. Stating that you know Hispanic people doesn't magically mean you didn't say something that could be construed as racist, just like someone knowing gay people doesn't mean we can't take issue with them saying "I'm not a homophobe, but gay people shouldn't kiss in public because most people are straight". So, hey, considering that's not what you were trying to say apparently in the first place, maybe the lesson here is to make sure you don't follow "I'm not racist, but..." with a statement that a lot of people could easily see as racist. Pet Peeve: When the USB refuses to plug in no matter which way you flip it and you slowly go insane as you try to figure out which way around is the right way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zzz Posted February 10, 2013 Share Posted February 10, 2013 Zzz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Orange Posted February 10, 2013 Share Posted February 10, 2013 Pet peeve. Telemarketers calling over three times a day. I'm running out of jokes to use on them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drasiana Posted February 11, 2013 Share Posted February 11, 2013 I wasn't really interested enough in the topic to make a separate thread about it but it just...wouldn't die D: Also omfg that USB thing is amazing I need it right now Pet peeve: When you have SOMETHING stabbing your foot in your shoe but you can never figure out what it is or remove it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fana McCloud Posted February 11, 2013 Share Posted February 11, 2013 Peeve: high heels. I am no girly girl. I like to walk not stumble. Shoes can be fashionable but they have to be walkable too - and not cause long term damage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gestalt Posted February 12, 2013 Author Share Posted February 12, 2013 people with telly voice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drasiana Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 I think everyone has a telephone voice. Which brings me to my next pet peeve: I HATE THE SOUND OF MY OWN VOICE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarita Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 If Steve and I ever met, we won't be able to understand us mutually with all that slang. If it's any comfort to you, Steve is kinda slang-dumb. I hardly ever hear him use any. I secretly suspect he and his family don't use any when I'm around/actually listening. ETA: Oops forgot a pet peeve. It really gets me when I lend someone something and it comes back in worse condition than I gave it to them in, and they don't even bother offering to repair or replace it. My sister does this a LOT. She's starting a bad precedent with her infant daughter, too. She lets her touch all over her laptop so her daughter tries to do it to mine and I'm like "wtf no child." Also phones. It's not my responsibility to make sure your daughter doesn't break my $200 phone. (That's actually only $100 to replace now that the iPhone 5 is out.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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manthony_Higgs Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 Pet peeve: When I hear people without British accents say "bloody" (as in "BLOODY 'ELL THESE CRUMPETS ARE SIMPLY SMASHING") Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xortberg Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 Brand new pet peeve: people who come into topics on a forum and tell people not to talk about what that topic is about, then think that people telling him not to do that are "following" them and tell them to stop doing that. And then respond rudely when someone politely tells them they're breaking a few rules and that they should probably stop. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zzz Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 Zzz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Redeemer Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 Pet Peeve: People. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harlow Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 Pet Peeve: People. This, this and a hundred times this. Especially classmates and taxi drivers right now. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Red-haired angel. ... ...Thank you... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gestalt Posted February 17, 2013 Author Share Posted February 17, 2013 Sales reps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redeemer Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 This, this and a hundred times this. Especially classmates and taxi drivers right now. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Red-haired angel. ... ...Thank you... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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