Master Jal Posted November 4, 2006 Share Posted November 4, 2006 In case you don't realize, an Arwing has INCREDIBLE defensive capabilities to take temperatures that would vaporize almost ANYTHING.... So at least some new type of metal was used. Duct-tapeium Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leo K. Lighthouse Posted November 4, 2006 Share Posted November 4, 2006 Nice... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salmon45 Posted November 4, 2006 Share Posted November 4, 2006 Nice. Yes, duck/duct tape fixes everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zicka Posted November 5, 2006 Share Posted November 5, 2006 In case you don't realize, an Arwing has INCREDIBLE defensive capabilities to take temperatures that would vaporize almost ANYTHING.... So at least some new type of metal was used. Really? I think it has more mediocre shielding. It can't take TOO much punishment from fighter craft caliber weapons (negating shield rings), and I doubt it could take much from a starship caliber weapon of 5000+ terajoules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salmon45 Posted November 5, 2006 Share Posted November 5, 2006 Well at least the SFC Arwing would be like that, it can not take much punishment at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Wilopolis Posted November 5, 2006 Share Posted November 5, 2006 Really? I think it has more mediocre shielding. It can't take TOO much punishment from fighter craft caliber weapons (negating shield rings), and I doubt it could take much from a starship caliber weapon of 5000+ terajoules. The Arwing can take a LOT of punishment, really. I mean, they can get hit with a BOMB and still be flying. Name ANY ship you've seen that can do that. THEN the Arwing is mediocre. Besides, Arwings were usually meant to be flown evasively... The defence could be incredible, but the defence is still breakable. ..Also, the Arwing's speed systems were meant to be taken advantage of, so you could AVOID being hit by the opposition... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lilacs Posted November 5, 2006 Share Posted November 5, 2006 Even though the Arwing can still take alot of punishment from air combat, it would still come pray like all aircraft to AA inplacements, Even with strong speed one good lock from a heat seeker Anti- Aircraft missle or getting cover by AA bullets would take it down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zicka Posted November 6, 2006 Share Posted November 6, 2006 Name ANY ship you've seen that can do that. THEN the Arwing is mediocre. Whitestar, Babylon 5 Shadow fighters, Babylon 5 Vorlon fighters, Babylon 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salmon45 Posted November 6, 2006 Share Posted November 6, 2006 But the Arwing makes up for its so-so durability with the rolling ability. Rolling can reflect most of the damage from attacks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lilacs Posted November 6, 2006 Share Posted November 6, 2006 Even with the rolling ability, ground to air or air to air missiles would blow it out of the sky or heavly damage it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kal Posted November 7, 2006 Share Posted November 7, 2006 Aparoids used anti-air technology in Assault. Including heat-seeking missiles. Hell, even in multiplayer, Arwing can take a few of your big homing missiles. Compared to an A-wing, an Arwing is a freakin' tank. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lilacs Posted November 8, 2006 Share Posted November 8, 2006 Yeah, forgot about the Aparoids AA. Ive been playing so much Battalion wars and very little SF-A, Though I hate that the Arwing only comes with one laser cannon and required your to find a dual laser power up. Now who am I to argue with video game basics but GRRRRR! I hate single laser. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zicka Posted November 8, 2006 Share Posted November 8, 2006 Compared to an A-wing, an Arwing is a freakin' tank. An A-wing is not even built for the kind of job an Arwing does. Now... Compared to an X-wing... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salmon45 Posted November 8, 2006 Share Posted November 8, 2006 Yes, having single lasers makes me sad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Pyre Vulpimorph Posted May 23, 2007 Share Posted May 23, 2007 Let's see... I'm no Dr. Physics, but I'll give this a shot... ---------------------- Three functions of an Arwing's gravity-diffusion system (G-Diffusers): One: nullify the effects of inertia on the pilot Two: dampen the effect of gravity from planets/stars/black holes on the ship as a whole Three: when barrel-rolling, actually warp the fabric of space, so lasers and projectiles effectively twist away, without ever touching the Arwing's shields Obviously, there is some as-yet undiscovered physics going on here, so I won't elaborate further . ---------------------- Energy Shielding. Absorbs impacts from lasers and projectiles until critical overload is reached. Probably two-layered: Shield Layer One: "Ray Shield" scatters coherent light (lasers) and blocks ionized gas (plasma) Shield Layer Two: "Particle Shield" blocks all transmission of solids, liqiuds, gasses, and plasmas Obviously, this setup would require a large-enough hole in the rear to allow engine exhaust through. Radio transmissions and normal light can pass through Layer One. Again, more unknown physics. ----------------------- Physical Armor. This I can deal with. The outer hull is most certainly a high-tech ceramic. Forget metal armor. If the Shielding fails, even a tungsten-molybdenum alloy will be fried. The hull of an Arwing would also be two-layered: Armor Layer One: Ceramic. cubic Boron Nitride (1st choice) or cubic Silicon Carbide (2nd choice). High melting point. Armor Layer Two: Metal. Liquidmetal Composite Vitreloy (real substance, actually). Absorb physical impacts. High elastic-strain limit. cubic Boron Nitride has melting point of 3100 Celsius. cubic Silicon Carbide has melting point 2700 Celsius. Diamond might seem like a superior choice at 3600 Celsius, but it has an insanely high thermal conduction rate. Heat from lasers and plasma could transfer from the hull to the internal fuselage. Internal systems might cook. But then again, if Shields are down, you might be good as dead anyway. (in SF64, many times my shield gauge bar was completely EMPTY   darn star wolf) Liquidmetal is real stuff. Go to www.liquidmetal.com. Is 2.5 times harder and stronger than the best conventional titanium alloy out there. Called "liquid" metal because of the amorphous arrangement of the atoms. Chemically, it's a glass, albeit an extremely tough one. Low melting point though; must be well protected by ceramic layer. The transparent cockpit window is probably made of thick pure-diamond plate with nanofiber reinforcement. You can see out of it, but if your Shields are down, your enemy's lasers can see in... --------------------- Power Plant. The Arwing/Landmaster/Blue Marine probably rely on a miniature fusion reactor. The Great Fox more likely relies on a matter/antimatter anihiliation core like the USS Enterprise. I'm guessing here big-time. --------------------- Newtonian Propulsion. aka, Impulse. The fusion reactor of the Arwing would obviously make lots of ionized gas (plasma). Superconducting magnets could mega-pressurize the plasma, shooting it out the tailpipe at incredible speed. (no fart jokes, please) Viola, you have thrust. A similar mechanism could apply to the Great Fox's engines. --------------------- Einsteinian Propulsion. aka, Warp Drive. I have no idea. I'll leave that to Dr. Zephram Cochrahn. --------------------- Weapons. Ahh, yes, weapons. Lasers. Plasma bolts. Bullets. Gunpowder is pretty straightforward, so I won't elaborate on bullets. Lasers: coherent beams of light. Goes 300,000,000 meters per second  Plasma: beams or packets of ionized gas contained within a magnetic field. With the Arwing's fusion reactor, generating the electricity to power its multi-million terawatt laser cannons should be a cinch. Lasers are invisible unless scattered by the target, dust, or mist. Powerful lasers break down an atmosphere into plasma, causing "blooming". This effect wastes energy. Plasma weapons are more problematic. In the vacuum of space, a BEAM of plasma might be sustainable if the ship or fighter doing the firing can maintain a powerful magnetic bottleneck to contain it. Otherwise, it'll disperse. However, I know of no mechanism to sustain PACKETS of plasma to a target. I can't imagine anything being able to sustain the magnetic confinement. Firing plasma weapons in an atmosphere is just a pain in the arse. The plasma would encounter so much friction, I can't conceive of even a beam going very far, and you have the same problem with "blooming", only worse. Getting disembodied packets of plasma through air is just ridiculous. Oh, well. Oh, handguns like the blaster pistol would probably be powered by miniature hydrogen fuel cells. I guess. ---------------------------- THUS ends my technobabbling consisting entirely of "probablys" and "maybes"  --------------------------- OH, ONE MORE THING: You CAN see a full 360-degree view of the SF64 Arwing! Just get the Arwing trophy in Super Smash Brothers: Melee. I hope that answers the question of whoever asked it.... EDIT: Oops, I'm answering the wrong question. It's late, and my eyes are groggy. Oh, well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogue Fox Posted May 23, 2007 Share Posted May 23, 2007 Little clarification: I read on Wikipedia that the Wolfens (both Assault and Command types) do not have G-Diffusers but instead use the gravity blades in place on the diffusers. Is this true, or do the Wolfens have both G-Diffusers and gravity blades? Jim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Krystal Posted May 23, 2007 Share Posted May 23, 2007 Little clarification: I read on Wikipedia that the Wolfens (both Assault and Command types) do not have G-Diffusers but instead use the gravity blades in place on the diffusers. Is this true, or do the Wolfens have both G-Diffusers and gravity blades? Jim I've never heard that term. If it's on Wikipedia, they should have defined the source of that info. Ask around where they heard that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogue Fox Posted May 24, 2007 Share Posted May 24, 2007 I think they mean the extra wings on the Wolfens (besides the horizontal and vertical ones). JIM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Pyre Vulpimorph Posted May 26, 2007 Share Posted May 26, 2007 I'm pretty sure the Wolfen has a G-diffuser system..... In SF: Assault, the Arwing has four G-diffuser nacelles. The Wolfen just has three nacelles. Which might explain why it is faster, but less maneuverable, than an Arwing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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