Lord O'Donnell Posted September 21, 2006 Share Posted September 21, 2006 Ok lets see how things are game by game. N64: James appear and leads Fox out of Andross base and he just disappears. In this game nothing else is shown. Everyone agree with that. Adventures: When i played it the first time (about a year ago) i get some cheat tokens but i never knew what they were for. I start searching in wiki and in walkthroughs and apparently one or two of this tokens gives you a message of what happened to him AND he also tells you that he is dead. I am not sure about this so anyone please tell us the truth about this tokens. Assault: The queen shows disguises as James and in order to do it she had to absorb him before, other people says that she knew about James through the memories of Pigma, General Pepper and Peppy. She maybe get this info from Peppy because if you see his face before the impact of the Great Fox you can see Aparoid cell's in his face, she maybe get some info without hurting him too much the same thing could happen with General Pepper even when he wasnt absorbed he was already taken by the Queen, Pigma was totally absorbed so he is maybe the only or main source of this info. Command: I havent played it so I cant say to much but what is in the net. James appears in the back of an image, in this image he isnt very clear but you can say its James. You can play as him but as a ghost. The poll is there because many still thinks that even if the tokens say he is dead, there are many plotholes that could explain why he could be alive. Please if you say something make sure its a fact not an opinion, unless you say you voted for Plothole. The magazine doesnt count because that storyline is doesnt fit the one that is used in the games. There isnt a maybe option because noone can be half-dead/half-alive, by the way i voted: dead, because if he is still living what a BAST..RD he is, what kind of freak would do that to his son? I wouldnt forgive my father for such thing and neither would you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owner/Technical Admin Sideways Posted September 21, 2006 Owner/Technical Admin Share Posted September 21, 2006 I personally Beleive the Aparoid Queen read Fox's Mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord O'Donnell Posted September 21, 2006 Author Share Posted September 21, 2006 A good chance that maybe no one has ever think about, but you didnt voted in the poll or say anything about how old James is doing please tell us that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infinity Posted September 21, 2006 Share Posted September 21, 2006 Plot hole. This is exactly what the writers of the storyline want us to debate about. You cannot ever be sure, there is evidence that could go either way. I highly doubt they would give a clear cut answer unless the series ended, which I highly doubt it will anytime soon. In Command in Dash's storyline Fox thinks he sees his father launch in if you are having trouble before the final boss Falco and Dash wonder what is going on, but Fox shrugs it off. James just launches in and no one says anything if everything is going successful. Andross is now the ghost of Tiania, which makes you wonder if James is the ghost of Venom. James comes in right when his son needs aid the most, to even save his life. I can hardly see how one wouldn't be able to forgive his absence after that. One cannot be sure though and the question remains. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DZComposer Posted September 21, 2006 Share Posted September 21, 2006 This is flamebait, but meh.... Keep it civilized. Anyhows, on topic, I believe he is dead. I'm sure James is a ghost in SFC. Here's why: No one notices him! Also, afther the last boss, Fox and Ash are talking. Fox tells Ash that he doesn't need to appologize for "[his] father's death." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leo K. Lighthouse Posted September 21, 2006 Share Posted September 21, 2006 well whatever the case, I'd like to play as James in the Wii Game, since the stories over I want to see some prequels from before even the first game... and on topic I agree with DZ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sol-Ratcht Saporro Posted September 21, 2006 Share Posted September 21, 2006 Dead dead dead..... I hate to say it but I believe all these James sightings are just spectres. If the story (as well as characters) says he's dead well then he's dead. It would be interesting (and confusing) if he was to come up alive in the next SF game. Or in a prequel they can zero in on the original Star Fox up to his death. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludvig11 Posted September 21, 2006 Share Posted September 21, 2006 Many may not agree with me.. but I say that he's dead. In SF64, why would Fox hallucinate James? and so clearly with his voice and all? if he don't had a serious physic disorder... and well.. prehaps lets say that Command is alittle bit of "alternative future".(I know to little of the never games to really say things about them tought..) but please don't take the game's stories to seriously.. even tought some things can be very weird. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mithos Kionisu Posted September 21, 2006 Share Posted September 21, 2006 Battle fatigue/illusions/delusions Hes dead. d. e. d. dead. Plot hole. Thats not a plot hole, from wiki: "A plot hole is a gap in a storyline that goes against the flow of logic set-up by the plot or that undermines the basic premises of the story." The appearance of James doesnt go against the flow of logic, at best its an unexplained plot point that the develpors could explain at a later date. FOr instance, James COULD still be alive and the develpoers could show him going into hiding in a prequle...or some other nosense. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plot_hole Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Falco The Master Posted September 22, 2006 Share Posted September 22, 2006 He is... ALIVE!!! =P Because, Andross's ghost is obviously like a recording, (as for the personalized recordings, Andross is smart so he figured it out i.e. Dash's personalized one.) Although James doesn't have any ghostly aspects, and in addition it would be stupid to have like the final boss in Dash's ending just to be like, "MWAHAHAH I AM THE ANGLAR KI-asplode, kaboom, boom boom, owch ahhhghghghgh." You know? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blaz3 Posted September 26, 2006 Share Posted September 26, 2006 I think that James is probably alive. I don't believe that Fox would just "happen" to hallucinate on the final, critical areas of the game, and as far as I know, hallucinations can't shoot down enemy ships. Assault could have been multiple reasons but I'm not sure if the aparoid queen would have had enough info from Pigma's not-so-hot memory, it had been a heck of a long time before he had seen James. Pepper was rather old when he was infected and being a general would have definitely had an effect on his memory as well. I haven't, as of yet, gotten the cheat token of James' recordings but I probably will. You may disagree, but some of the points here must be at least a bit valid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salmon45 Posted September 26, 2006 Share Posted September 26, 2006 I think that he is dead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Trainer Krystal Posted September 28, 2006 Share Posted September 28, 2006 Definitively this died Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leo K. Lighthouse Posted October 1, 2006 Share Posted October 1, 2006 Off topic: What about the prequals that'll be coming out soon? Maybe we'll find out from them... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lilacs Posted October 3, 2006 Share Posted October 3, 2006 I think he is dead because of all of the proof, I mean didn't Fox him self say James was dead? I know he could be a zombie! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludvig11 Posted October 4, 2006 Share Posted October 4, 2006 This subject goes on and on and on.. but I'm almost 100% sure that hes dead. (or atleast meant to be at first) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leo K. Lighthouse Posted October 4, 2006 Share Posted October 4, 2006 Sounds good to me... Although I'd be cool if he found some anciant super Advanced technology(And that's how he contacted Fox at the end of Starfox64), but even if that was part of the storyline, it'd probably never show up in a game(because it would be wearing a sign that said "Flame Me" writen on it in Big Bold letters...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord O'Donnell Posted October 14, 2006 Author Share Posted October 14, 2006 Why does he can fight against Anglar? why does Fox and Anglar are the onlyone's who can see him? If Fox could see him before why does he doesnt try to comunicate during the battle? the game gives more questions than answers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leo K. Lighthouse Posted October 14, 2006 Share Posted October 14, 2006 ^somewhat like your grammar... what's your first language? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord O'Donnell Posted October 14, 2006 Author Share Posted October 14, 2006 Is my english that terrible? Español es mi lengua aunque puedo apostar a que no entiendes esta linea... Spanish is my language, but I can bet you dont understand the line above... By the way I thought it was "grammar" not "grammer". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lilacs Posted October 14, 2006 Share Posted October 14, 2006 Okay DZ, you or another Admin. Please upload the Spell checker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leo K. Lighthouse Posted October 15, 2006 Share Posted October 15, 2006 Is my english that terrible? Español es mi lengua aunque puedo apostar a que no entiendes esta linea... Spanish is my language, but I can bet you dont understand the line above... By the way I thought it was "grammar" not "grammer". you're right!! Grammar it is then... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lilacs Posted October 15, 2006 Share Posted October 15, 2006 ^ beat at your on game Leo. HA HA HA HA [off topic/] James is died Fox says it in the mission Dash macks a choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chiro-Chan Posted November 12, 2006 Share Posted November 12, 2006 JAMES IS ALIVE. I just know it.I have a feeling that he's alive. If he is alive and turns out to be evil, then just imagine the plot twist value it could have for the story! And there's also enough proof in the story that he's alive. Of course, I don't care what you guys think. There's still the possiblity of him living. You guys need to give the poor guy a chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ONE_HELLCAT Posted November 12, 2006 Share Posted November 12, 2006 Before, I wouldn't care about this topic. But more evidence shows that he is currently declared a poltergeist. A ghost capable of physical acts such as killing the Anglar Emperor. The thing is though, the story writer hasn't decided whether or not he's dead. If he's alive, it answers one question, only to make a bunch more. If he's dead, it answers most, if not all. I know that Dylan Cuthbert thinks he's just a spirit trapped on Venom. Who knows if he is dead or alive? To me, it looks like his spirit is trapped on Venom - I mean, that's the only place you ever see him, right? (and he's always very ghostly and it's always a bit weird) But that's just my personal opinion, I'm sure there will be an official answer in a future StarFox. Dylan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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