What are chances of new SF game?

[WolfOD64]

At this point, I almost wish Nintendo would just sell the rights to Star Fox to some other developer or publisher, like Sega, Sucker Punch, Naughty Dog, Namco Bandai or Square Enix. Every time they come close to making anything Star Fox related, they shy out and pull the curtain of another franchise over it, because they aren't confident in the brand name's appeal. What was once concieved as a Star Fox title for the 3DS was changed by Sakurai into what is now "Kid Icarus Uprising." Even smaller things like the Metroid Ride at Nintendo Land were altered because it was both on foot, and not on rails. 

 

Nintendo doesn't have enough faith or confidence in the Star Fox brand. They don't hold it in the same regard as they do for other secondary franchises like Metroid and Donkey Kong. So if they have no plans to utilize it as a franchise, they should hand the rights over to someone else.

 

The only silver lining is that Miyamoto has stated that his IP of choice for the Wii U is a Star Fox game. He has a habit of doing what he wants and feels is right, regardless of the consequences. Star Fox Adventures was proof of that. Maybe now that he's sworn off heralding every Mario game that'll be made in the future, he'll take on the "smaller projects" he said he'd focus on. 

[Giladen]

Nintendo doesn't have enough faith or confidence in the Star Fox brand. They don't hold it in the same regard as they do for other secondary franchises like Metroid and Donkey Kong.

 

But Metroid hasn't been all that in years. Even before Other M came out.

[EvolutionSFox]

Sadly, I feel as if Star Fox has been buried. Either way, in the end, it's about making money and reusing renewable resources which will point Nintendo in the direction that Star Fox is not. Typical business standpoint that is used a lot, and as Microsoft and Sony's new consoles gain notoriety and publicity, Nintendo is going to want to choose the game series that boosts profit margins to combat its competitors, again which unfortunately Star Fox lacks.

[Giladen]

Sadly, I feel as if Star Fox has been buried. Either way, in the end, it's about making money and reusing renewable resources which will point Nintendo in the direction that Star Fox is not. Typical business standpoint that is used a lot, and as Microsoft and Sony's new consoles gain notoriety and publicity, Nintendo is going to want to choose the game series that boosts profit margins to combat its competitors, again which unfortunately Star Fox lacks.

 

So, why is there Pikmin 3 and Wind Waker HD?

 

[Giladen]

Sadly, I feel as if Star Fox has been buried. Either way, in the end, it's about making money and reusing renewable resources which will point Nintendo in the direction that Star Fox is not. Typical business standpoint that is used a lot, and as Microsoft and Sony's new consoles gain notoriety and publicity, Nintendo is going to want to choose the game series that boosts profit margins to combat its competitors, again which unfortunately Star Fox lacks.

 

So, why is there Pikmin 3 and Wind Waker HD? Better yet, why is there the Wii U?

 

[EvolutionSFox]

Some of those games have surpassed Star Fox's latest installment sales, especially Fire Emblem Awakening. These other games could be an attempt to revive a game series(There are 3 Pikmin installments, while Star Fox has 5+) or to simply take a risk to create the next big thing . And of course Nintendo is going to create another console, that's basic competition. I haven't purchased the Wii U or Wii myself because I simply don't have the drive to buy one, no games really stick out besides Smash Brothers.

[Drasiana]

I scrolled back to find my post in this topic to requote it only to realize this wasn't the same topic. How many times do we need to bemoan the Star Foxalypse? There will be a new Star Fox game when Nintendo feels they can appropriately make one.

 

Seriously people I'm gonna start cracking out the spraybottle here.

[Zukaro]

If a new Star Fox game was released on the Wii U I would literally go out right now and buy a Wii U.  :V

Of course, I'd do the same for the next LoZ game, as I'm also a big fan of that series.  But those are the only two games which would make me go out an buy a Wii U.

 

I've been waiting for a new Star Fox game for literally 9 years now (it's been 9 years since the last proper Star Fox game (by proper I mean on a console, and in cannon with the series, as Star Fox Command was apparently not in cannon (from what I've heard anyways); although if you do count Star Fox Command then it's been 8 years).

 

 

I scrolled back to find my post in this topic to requote it only to realize this wasn't the same topic. How many times do we need to bemoan the Star Foxalypse? There will be a new Star Fox game when Nintendo feels they can appropriately make one.

 

Seriously people I'm gonna start cracking out the spraybottle here.

 

I think the reason people feel as if Nintendo has abandoned the series is due to it having been almost a decade since the last Star Fox game.  To put things in perspective, it's only been 7 years since HL2 Episode 2. 

 

Although personally, I'd rather see a reboot of the Star Fox series at this point rather than a continuation.  Basically, while Star Fox Adventures was a great game, I'd rather see that taken out of the Star Fox universe since Star Fox is a scifi, so it just feels out of place to have magic in that universe.  But either way, I just want to see another Star Fox game.  But I don't want them to go with the Star Fox Command art style, cuz I think it doesn't look right. 

(basically I want Fox to look how he did in Star Fox Assault or Adventures, as I think he looked the best in those games)

 

I think another game like Star Fox Adventures would be awesome though, as I absolutely loved all the exploration in that game and such.

[Sarita]

Trying to apply American logic to an ultimately Japanese company is dumb. Nintendo is gonna do what they want. At the end of the day most Japanese companies only care about what sells well domestically, domestic markets are what keep Japanese companies afloat. Starfox is a niche market in Japan from what I understand, and anyone who knows better is welcome to correct me. Knowing what I do about Japanese companies in general, Starfox isn't going to happen any time soon, regardless of international demand.

 

*shrug* It is what it is. Every Japanese company I've encountered has been this way, and I have no reason to believe Nintendo is an exception.

 

edit: fixed that huge run-on sorry 'bout that.

[Drasiana]

I think the reason people feel as if Nintendo has abandoned the series is due to it having been almost a decade since the last Star Fox game.  To put things in perspective, it's only been 7 years since HL2 Episode 2. 

 

To put things in perspective, Command came out a year before Ep2 did. Not a massive, devastating difference, and if you want to accurately talk about recent releases, SF643DS came out three years ago.

 

So with that in mind, and especially with the Half-Life comparison there, the only reason people think Nintendo has abandoned the series is because they're a giant wad of pessimism that'd rather victimize themselves as some kind of martyr fandom instead of looking at video game production realistically.

[Sapphire]

Star Fox 64 may have been, but it is hard to tell. Mario Kart 64 was also released in that time frame.

 

Work with me here, DZ.

 

Star Fox 64 > Mario Kart

 

 

We've been teased with Star Fox games several times. The new inclusion of Peppy in that submarine game may just be a sign that Nintendo hasn't forgotten Star Fox, although we may never see another game from the wonderful series again.

 

There's plenty they can do with the series, since they began ground game play in Adventures (unless you want to count the secret unlock in 64), that literally introduced an entire new world of things they can do with Star Fox, as long as they don't go nuts with it. While I speak of Adventures, it would be a good example. Sure, the game wasn't to its fullest potential because they placed Star Fox characters in it at the last second, yata yata yata. But think of it if they were to make a sequel to Adventures, know what I mean? Maybe we could have that final boss fight we were all hoping to have.

 

Scales, durr. But I liked Andross, that was a cool battle nonetheless.

 

Instead of Nintendo trying out all these new system ideas, maybe they could stick with regular non-tablet sized controllers and motion gaming, and stick with a regular controller and come up with some new ideas for Star Fox.

 

Personally, I feel Star Fox could be the savior Nintendo is looking for right now since the Wii U sales sucker punched their bank accounts.

 

Fox and the gang used to be up at the top along with Mario and Zelda, but now it just seems Nintendo has left our furry fliers in the past like a good memory.

 

Sure, there are a couple of isolated incidents where it appears fan movements may have spurred a decision,

 

Don't forget the inclusion of Sonic in Super Smash Bros Brawl, caused the game to be delayed for a few months.

[Giladen]

Some of those games have surpassed Star Fox's latest installment sales

 

Citation needed. And there's nothing impressive about selling higher than a remake that doesn't have as much as the version on the N64. Especially when the game still doesn't make it to 2 million.

 

especially Fire Emblem Awakening

 

Fire Emblem would have been cancelled if Awakening didn't make it to 250,000 units sold. And the game sold 1.3 million copies by the time of June 2013 according to a source on NeoGAF.

 

These other games could be an attempt to revive a game series(There are 3 Pikmin installments, while Star Fox has 5+) or to simply take a risk to create the next big thing .

 

Pikmin games have repeatedly not made it to 2 million within a time period. The original Wind Waker's sales were so much lower than Ocarina of Time's that Aonuma has said in public that WW "did not perform well". And even then, the game still got a remake on the Wii U. So many Metroid games haven't reached the first Metroid's sales within a time period (especially Other M).

 

Trying to apply American logic to an ultimately Japanese company is dumb.

 

I'm sure that kind of thinking is part of why Nintendo is such a joke nowadays.

 

Nintendo is gonna do what they want.

 

Send out games like Pikmin 3 or Wind Waker HD? Or consoles like the Wii U?

 

At the end of the day most Japanese companies only care about what sells well domestically, domestic markets are what keep Japanese companies afloat.

 

Is that why the Wii ended up trapped downhill? And the Wii U is a train wreck?

 

Starfox is a niche market in Japan from what I understand, and anyone who knows better is welcome to correct me. Knowing what I do about Japanese companies in general, Starfox isn't going to happen any time soon, regardless of international demand.

 

A "niche market in Japan" can be used to describe Metroid. And Nintendo still sent out Other M.

[Scourge]

Send out games such as Pikmin 3 or Wind Waker HD? Or consoles such as the Wii U?

 

 

 

I'm sorry, but did you just use Pikmin 3 as an example of a game nintendo SHOULDN'T have made? Are you wanting the sword through your heart or d'ya wanna bleed out slowly?

 

Nintendo needs to release SOMETHING within the starfox brand thats equally awesome, and appealing to draw in a new audience, as well as bring back the old ones that were un-willing to put up with the drastic changes made to the core gameplay by the series' latter installments.

 

S'like I've been saying all along: WE NEED A REBOOT

 

64 3D was a good start, now they just need to follow through.

 

And by that, I DO NOT MEAN A HD REMAKE OF ADVENTURES, HOWEVER AWESOME THAT WOULD BE

[Zukaro]

To put things in perspective, Command came out a year before Ep2 did. Not a massive, devastating difference, and if you want to accurately talk about recent releases, SF643DS came out three years ago.

 

So with that in mind, and especially with the Half-Life comparison there, the only reason people think Nintendo has abandoned the series is because they're a giant wad of pessimism that'd rather victimize themselves as some kind of martyr fandom instead of looking at video game production realistically.

 

I don't count Star Fox 64 3D as it was a re-release (like WindWaker HD).  I'm also specifically talking about games which are in cannon; from what I've read Star Fox Command was not in cannon (but even if we are counting it, it's only a 1 year difference anyways from the previous game to it). 

I know it's not a large difference or anything; the point is just that HL2 is infamous for how long people have been waiting for Episode 3. 

 

Basically it's been a long time.  Almost a decade since the last actual Star Fox game (again, I'm not counting Star Fox 64 3D because it was a re-release).  I know there's a lot of pessimism when it comes to the thought that the game has been abandoned, and I personally don't believe that Nintendo has actually abandoned the series as it's one of their "core" series.  But I can understand why people would feel that way, as it's been a very long time.

 

I'm not sure I really feel as if the game has been abandoned, but what I feel is just "I want another Star Fox game ;^;", so as a result, it'd be nice if I knew if anything was planned.    But I also want HL2e3 to come out as well.  ;^;

 

I'm sure we'll see a new Star Fox game on the Wii U at some point though, as the tablet controls could work well for something if they decide to be more than just a space shooter and possibly add some strategy game elements to it.

[ZestyLemon]

For 3DS it's possible. Wii U i doubt much will be coming out that hasn't already been announced.

[Emiko Gale]

Even I'm starting to lose faith which is the reason why I haven't been big on Starfox until recently...Well actually a few days ago when I started my Starfox binge.

 

You guys have no idea how distraught I was when I found out there wouldn't be a Starfox game for the Wii...So much potential lost and I could've played Starfox without getting controller hand pain.

 

And as much as I fell in love with the new Kid Icarus game...When I found out that it was originally going to be a Starfox game I feel that Nintendo made me fall in love with a love arrow but at the same time broke my heart with a love arrow.

[Scourge]

As much as I am one for another Starfox game.... I just dont feel pretending to have the Wii-mote as a flight stick control mechanism would've been a good one.... besides, arwings use dual, side mounted flight sticks remember?

 

Now, the Wii-U gamepad controls would be interesting.... Although they'd have to use the Wii-mote still with the multi-player function..

[WolfOD64]

But Metroid hasn't been all that in years. Even before Other M came out.

I don't know. The Prime Series was going pretty strong with the release of Hunters on DS, and Corruption on Wii. Then, Nintendo managed to release Other M as recently as 2010.

 

I'd say that's a lot more compared to Star Fox's lack of games since 2006, unless you count SF643D as a legitimate entry (which I personally don't).

[Giladen]

Most of the Metroid games haven't reached the original's sales of 2.73 million. Metroid Prime has been recorded as selling 2 million copies by the time of November 2007, but sales went downward after Prime.

 

Metroid hasn't been all that in years if Star Fox hasn't.

[Chrono Reaper]

When all the cosmic bodies in the heavens align, then will there be a new Star fox game my young padwan.

[ZestyLemon]

For 3DS it's possible. Wii U i doubt much will be coming out that hasn't already been announced.

Glad I was wrong!