DZComposer Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 Not only should Nintendo go mobile, they should start doing bullshit microtransactions! "We believe Nintendo can create very profitable games based on in-game revenue models with the right development team," Fischer said. "Just think of paying 99 cents just to get Mario to jump a little higher."http://www.polygon.com/2014/2/26/5450938/shareholder-urges-nintendo-to-develop-for-mobile-platformsI really hope Iwata can get the ship back on course because if the investors revolt and oust the board, the EA-ization of Nintendo is the future we have to look forward too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scourge Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrypticQuery Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 This surely marks a sad state of affairs for the gaming industry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snys93 Posted February 28, 2014 Share Posted February 28, 2014 (edited) I really hope Iwata can get the ship back on course because if the investors revolt and oust the board, the EA-ization of Nintendo is the future we have to look forward too. Might as well taxidermy Nintendo, preserve it in a museum for all the public to see, as a monument to what was and what might have been. Edited March 1, 2014 by Snyslon_93 Image Policy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ori Posted February 28, 2014 Share Posted February 28, 2014 I... I don't even know what to say about this... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AuroraCave Posted February 28, 2014 Share Posted February 28, 2014 Nintendo should just drop the subject of mobile gaming in general. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DZComposer Posted February 28, 2014 Author Share Posted February 28, 2014 Unlock Luigi for $5 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scourge Posted February 28, 2014 Share Posted February 28, 2014 10 cents to jump 20 cents to goomba stomp 50 cents to finish level 10 dollars to unlock the final level Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrypticQuery Posted February 28, 2014 Share Posted February 28, 2014 10 cents to jump 20 cents to goomba stomp 50 cents to finish level 10 dollars to unlock the final level I'm surprised there isn't a coin slot on the Wii-U yet; fifty cents to power the unit on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scourge Posted February 28, 2014 Share Posted February 28, 2014 You could try to shove cash into the CD tray 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sroberson Posted March 1, 2014 Share Posted March 1, 2014 I'm going to go against the grain here, but I would wager to say that investors are not all stupid. They have an interest in doing what is economically better for the company that they own a part of. I know DZ has pointed out that this past year has been the only year of net loss for Nintendo, but I have to side with the investors and propose that they change something - at least investigate the value of expanding into the mobile platform which is absolutely consuming their casual gaming base. Microtransaction games on phones are wildly successful if they hit the right niche and require little development other than an odd-ball who learned some Objective-C and luck. Do they fizzle out? Sure. So do the DS games after a while. I have no sources to back me up on this, but I recall hearing for several years that Nintendo handhelds were simply not selling as much as they hoped. And they are going to HAVE to pick up a new market of customers since a report I read recently suggests Japanese market of gamers is pretty small compared to the rest of the world. - and I always pictured them being the ones glued to their handheld systems compared to the rest of the world. But perhaps I am being foolish and looking at that article the wrong way. Someone can call me out on that. As far as microtransactions on consoles. It can be done. Carefully, I should add. Nobody would bat an eye at sinking a few dollars into buying a different colored hat in TF2. Or a new camo/helmet/gun/whatever in Planetside, which has been a successful MMO for many years (I say successful subjectively, mostly based its continuity). Now, I wouldn't suggest selling a game at full retail price if they did this, but they didn't mention this part of their business plan so we don't know what they would/will do. Of course it can be done poorly, and the "Gib meh 50 cents to jump higher!" example that we had may have just been a spur of the moment comment that they could think of without a better idea. I know I could have easily made the same mistake and wish to not go on record as having said that. The way I see it, this microtransaction concern is a bit moot anyways since (and I am going to make an unbacked claim here, I know) Nintendo's problem is they can't sell a console/games without games anyone is interested in - microtransactions or not. TLDR: I guess the point i'm making is, if we hate microtransactions so much....then why is it becoming such a good business model and working for others? Minor edit: I went back to review NTDOY stock and found it a bit interesting that 1) Nintendo used to offer decent dividends to its shareholders. Over time as their share value lowered, their dividends also lowered. That strikes me as odd that they wouldn't want to help protect and entice investors. 2) Even though the value is quite low, and the dividends are minimal...people are staying in and the trade volume is low. I guess current investors are just hoping to scrape back something and try to get a rally. Or Nintendo owns a ton of its own stock to keep other investors quiet. As a conservative investor, I would be uneasy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arashikage Posted March 1, 2014 Share Posted March 1, 2014 The problem here is that gaming is about delivering a method of storytelling and art that is enjoyable for a certain demographic. If I buy a game, I don't want to have to keep paying money to progress in the game at my own pace. I don't want to have to unlock things to go faster, I don't want to have to wait obscenely long times to acquire items, or have to pay for a faster car. Microtransactions can be done properly. TF2 and its hats, for instance. TF2 sells hats which are completely cosmetic, and do nothing to your stats. That is 100% fine, because if I get killed by someone, often times it's not because they paid 15 dollars for Uberz Dein Lazor Death Ray 9000. But when games come out where you have to pay 15 dollars so that you can get a weapon that could stand up to most other players, that's when I start to uninstall programs. The "Pay 99 cents to make Mario jump a little higher" just shows how much Fischer knows about these kinds of things. Sure, you're going to make 99 cents off of the people that want to play your mobile game, but then you're losing so many more customers that hate what you're doing. That being said, Nintendo seems like they know what they're doing in terms of keeping their consumers happy. I bet it'll all be fine. Until then, here's my advice: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sroberson Posted March 1, 2014 Share Posted March 1, 2014 And I can completely understand the distaste felt towards "pay-to-win". There is a delicate balance struck between feeling the need to sink a bit of money into a new item that helps the player and protecting that player from the others that were not so interested in paying for any items (even though protecting these non-paying players would be a bad business model really). These games exist. I just feel like Nintendo is losing their market and becoming a bit more irrelevant in the eyes of the more serious gamers and even the casual gamers who can go pick up mom and dad's iPad and play Candy Crush. From my skewed point of view, I just don't see them even trying to attract either demographic with their decisions to cut off the mobile market which is more than happy to play Nintendo games on their phones judging from the number of fan made Pokemon games out there (that could be income to Nintendo... and a perfect opportunity to try out microtransactions to change your trainers hair color or something). Again, we can say how much we hate microtransactions and lambast the companies that use them, but they are alive and doing very well. Just a couple examples, EA has an income that is 70% the size of Nintendo's, Zynga has a profit line that is 15% of theirs...Zynga, the same makers of the maligned Farmville that took over our Facebook notifications for years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrypticQuery Posted March 1, 2014 Share Posted March 1, 2014 If Nintendo had a few more noteworthy games [sSB4 is a good start] and attempted to persuade third-party developers to develop for the Wii U, I imagine they'd be in better shape. Of course that is easier said than done, but just imagine an HD, console-based Pokemon RPG. People would be trampling things just to look at it, let alone own it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvolutionSFox Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 As long as they are pleased with their bottom line, they're buy into any current sales trends they can. Plus, their target market is growing fond of mobile devices... So it's a win in their situation, a painful hassle for the fanboys to keep up with continuous purchasing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeroscope Posted March 4, 2014 Share Posted March 4, 2014 ABANDON SHIP! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snys93 Posted March 4, 2014 Share Posted March 4, 2014 Its a shame, isn't it? We mourn the passing of a titan that has inspired us all and yet although we know that its demise is eventual due t its course, it is oblivious to its own end as they steaming forward onto oblivion. R.I.P. Nintendo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scourge Posted March 4, 2014 Share Posted March 4, 2014 Its a shame, isn't it? We mourn the passing of a titan that has inspired us all and yet although we know that its demise is eventual due t its course, it is oblivious to its own end as they steaming forward onto oblivion. R.I.P. Nintendo Dont start digging the company a grave just yet. They arent quite fucked Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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