CrypticQuery Posted July 3, 2014 Share Posted July 3, 2014 Please accept my humble apologies for going off on a tangent for a single post in a non-specific thread. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geoprimedonna Posted July 3, 2014 Author Share Posted July 3, 2014 Please accept my humble apologies for going off on a tangent for a single post in a non-specific thread. No problem-o! We always do epic fails, anyways! :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LazerMaster5 Posted July 4, 2014 Share Posted July 4, 2014 I don't think we have to worry about forgetting about '90s games. With the rise of virtual console, game app releases, and emulators, there are more ways to enjoy those old games than ever. While gamers in the 1990s could not take games like Earthbound and Star Fox on the road, the modern cell phone can run these games while multitasking, all without breaking a sweat. Games have come a long way, with games like Half-Life, Halo, GTA, Portal, and Minecraft bringing game play to newer heights, doing what would have only been a dream in the 1990s. While we are getting lots of sequels these days, we can all appreciate some of the games to come in the past 15 years. The way I see it, we have no reason to miss the 1990s, we are able to enjoy the best of the 1990s without having to deal with the worst! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patch93 Posted July 4, 2014 Share Posted July 4, 2014 The fact of the matter is that there has never been a point in human history where life has been absolutely perfect. The only reason why it may have seemed perfect to you was because you were a child and you weren't aware of what was going on around you during that time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InfinitySquared Posted July 4, 2014 Share Posted July 4, 2014 Personally, I think the whole nostalgia movement is ridiculous because the people who grew up in the '90s are around 30, tops. They're just starting to graduate college, get full-time jobs and own houses and have kids. Their lives are really only just beginning to change. It's almost like a reaction against all the pressure and responsibility that's suddenly put upon them as they begin to, hopefully, become fully independent from their parents. In some extreme cases (cough*my aunt*cough), they may never become independent and continue to live like they're in their 20s on their parent's dime, because they decide that real work is too hard compared to drinking and shopping. Also, I think people get too caught up in the past. We live in an incredible age. We can access any kind of information right on our phone, talk with people anywhere in the world online almost instantaneously without dialing into a slow landline (beee-eee-eeee), rent movies without going to a store to pay for an overpriced worn out tape that's been god knows where, etc. etc. The '90s were great, but the '10s are better. /rant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrypticQuery Posted July 4, 2014 Share Posted July 4, 2014 Also, I think people get too caught up in the past. We live in an incredible age. We can access any kind of information right on our phone, talk with people anywhere in the world online almost instantaneously without dialing into a slow landline (beee-eee-eeee), rent movies without going to a store to pay for an overpriced worn out tape that's been god knows where, etc. etc. The '90s were great, but the '10s are better. /rant Of course, with the advent of new technology comes the advent of new issues/gripes. Because of the proliferation of text-messaging based upon how widespread smartphones have become, numerous individuals can no longer form a coherent conversation in person or over a telephone. Renting movies has become highly dependent upon the licensing agreements that each company holds - a shame if you have Netflix and want to watch a movie that's agreement just expired, for example. It was much easier to browse in brick-and-mortar stores with genre-based aisles IMO, and chatting up the sales associates about what they liked was always fun. Some is nostalgia, I admit, but a notable chunk of it is genuine. ------- In order to pull this back toward the thread's original purpose before being set upon by the draconian OP, I can say something similar in regards to video games. The ones of today are incredibly impressive, lifelike, and continue to knock my socks off day in and day out. Yet with gigantic budges for AAA titles and less room for originality because of those aforementioned budgets, potentially great ideas get left in the dust. The indie scene helps this, but it's not like ten/twenty years ago where the startup costs were significantly smaller and truly great things resulted [as well as a whole lotta' shovelware]. Also, I think that I have to stick the word Nintendo in somewhere according to that post further up, so there you go. xD 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geoprimedonna Posted July 10, 2014 Author Share Posted July 10, 2014 This thread "stopped" for a short while, but recently downloaded the 92 and 93's NP's and, man! Who remembers those awesome Nintendo contests that gave out free games if you had matching trading cards that were asked for that edition? Good times, folks. Good times... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusheo Posted July 10, 2014 Share Posted July 10, 2014 All i remember is that he 90's was horrible and nothing important really happened besides video games, but really i cantt recall anything besides the fact that 'remember this' if youre a 90s kid is a bit dull since like the best thing about the 90s was low prices and gas was cheap, that and didnt have to deal with adulthood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terramax Posted July 11, 2014 Share Posted July 11, 2014 I miss Sega in the 90s. Start the decade with the Master System at its peak, then the Mega Drive kicking arse in Europe, whilst being one of the chosen few blessed with a Mega CD, being the underdog with the Saturn during the mid-90s, and finally watching gaming peaking with the Dreamcast; with an amazing games library, the biggest jump in graphics of any system, and being the first mainstream online games console, all at the end of the decade. Music in the 90s was amazing too. Britpop and post Britpop music ruled. This was also probably the only decade where my country (England) enjoyed a brief number of years of positivity (92-ish to 98-ish), rather than be cynical about politics and the economy. Thank you Labour for coming into office in 97 and immediately ruining everything. The ones of today are incredibly impressive, lifelike, and continue to knock my socks off day in and day out. Yet with gigantic budges for AAA titles and less room for originality because of those aforementioned budgets, potentially great ideas get left in the dust. The indie scene helps this, but it's not like ten/twenty years ago where the startup costs were significantly smaller and truly great things resulted [as well as a whole lotta' shovelware]. Again, this is why I loved Sega. They weren't afraid to try new things. Every new console ushered in a new group of very creative IPs. Even when they were losing money left, right, and centre with the Saturn, they continued to let original titles be made, rather than lay on the same franchises from previous generations (unlike two other 1st party companies). These days, I think the most enjoyable games are what I refer to as 'mid-tier' games. Games like Drakengard 3, Deadly Premonition, Tenchu Z, Sega Rally Revo, Crimson Dragon, Nier, and Beautiful Katamari. These games are not AAA titles, nor are they indie or budget. They're the middle of the road games, and I find from a gameplay standpoint, and in terms of creativity, they have a lot more to them than the competition. Personally, I think the lack of creativity comes from the problems in Japan right now. Increasingly, Japanese companies are focusing on making games just for Japanese audiences, which are obsessed with the mobile gaming market and niche anime pr0n games OR they're making pretentious 'western' games for the western market, which often don't understand why that market enjoys western games. Japan was better when each company were doing their own thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redeemer Posted July 13, 2014 Share Posted July 13, 2014 Sometimes, I miss the "Golden Nintendo Era"... The Mario and The Legendo of Zelda cereal, the Starfox game watch cereal promotion, the many meal promotions, Nintendo Power, game toys, The Saturday Supercade... What about you? What do you miss? That's a good question. For me, the late 90s and early 2000s are what I get a little nostalgic about. I had a rough time in school so being at home was obviously much more enjoyable. Even there, I required escapism. I was really into video games, my first ones being Silent Hill, Zelda OoT and Final Fantasy 8. I love all three of those games even today, although FF9>FF8 huehuehue. I also was really into animes, namely Pokemon and Beyblade. I don't own any Pokemon DVDs or anything but I do have the entire first season of Beyblade on DVD which I adore and will never, ever part with. I don't know why I loved it so much. I wouldn't say I miss those times exactly. I didn't have an easy childhood/teenhood and I'm actually more comfortable in my own skin now than ever before. But I do miss wondering which pokemon Ash would catch next or trying to get access to the next temple in OoT. Those are fond memories right there. I never got to see any of this "Nintendo Golden Era" because I was in the UK at the time, and I was also not allowed many things so I had no idea about all this until years later when I had the internet. But I am sad that I missed out on it. Although I do have a really old unopened Zelda lollipop from like 2000 that I've kept in a box, mostly because I forgot about it. I also have the three figurines of OoT Link, Zelda and Ganondorf in that same box. I hope they're still safe, my parents aren't the most careful with my things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vy'drach Posted July 13, 2014 Share Posted July 13, 2014 What I miss of the 90's is that video game developers were having a franchise character war. Look back at the video games then and how many of them were designed to be like Mario and Sonic, likeable characters that you could keep making games with, Conker, Crash Bandicoot, Spyro, Banjo and Kazooie, Sir Daniel Fortesque, PaRappa the Rapper, etc. etc. The big thing was franchise characters, which was great because they put a lot of effort into their personalities because they weren't meant to be one shot characters. Nowadays you have generic *insert character role here*, who maybe says a few cool lines, does something neat, the end. Don't get me wrong, there's games with great characters now, Bastion, Portal, the Souls series, but the main focus of games today is no longer engaging franchise characters, they're just an added bonus if you get them. I also miss that there were four cartoon studies vying for top dog, Warner Bros., Nickelodeon, Toon Disney, and Cartoon Network all had great shows. WB of course had Animaniacs, Tiny Toons, Batman: The Animated Series (and Superman but was less popular), Road Rovers, all sorts of things. Nickelodeon had dozens of great shows, Doug, Rugrats, Wild Thornberrys, Angry Beavers, Aaaah! Real Monsters, etc. etc.. Toon Disney had basically a cartoon based off their movies, Little Mermaid, Hercules, Tail Spin, Aladdin, but also things like Darkwing Duck, Duck Tales, Rescue Rangers, and so on. Cartoon Network of course was Dexter's Lab, Johnny Bravo, Courage the Cowardly Dog, Powerpuff Girls, Swat Kats, Samurai Jack, all that good stuff. That's by no means all the good cartoons these guys showed, either. There's more, some of which I loved but can't remember what station had them, such as Beetlejuice, Blazing Dragons, and Bump in the Night. At any given point in the day you had at least one good show playing. Now, not so much. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Orange Posted July 13, 2014 Share Posted July 13, 2014 I will always miss those cartoons growing up as a kid ... Nickelodeon had dozens of great shows EXCLUDING Doug and maybe Aaaah! Real Monsters because jesus freaking christ Doug was a fucking train wreck on ice. But the rest of the shows were amazing. Especially Animaniacs. Like looking back on the way it was written from a more adult aspect, and comparing that writing to today's cartoons, it seems that the shows gave a more meaningful story than what I see as I scroll past the channels today. Like sure some shows weren't as meaningful as others but I guess what I'm trying to say is that the old shows taught me some weird life lessons. Sure Courage the Cowardly Dog was on Shooms but those were shooms that taught life lessons. Most of the shows back then were. And hell Rugrats got so fucking deep at some points it would make Titanic look shallow. And then CN and Nicktoons went south. I mean "Problem Solverz?" That was worse than Doug. It's indescribable. And now most shows today teach me to be a prick or to take drugs. Shows like Regular Show are way more adult than I remember CN network used to be. And with Adventure Time are the only "It was okay" shows on CN network. Kids these days. They missed out. They missed out. Kids these days. They don't know. And they should. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geoprimedonna Posted July 13, 2014 Author Share Posted July 13, 2014 Well, these are all nice poits to consider, guys! This is exactly what I think about this era: the good ol SNES and in the end of it, It's brother, the N64. Examples of good games, anybody? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redeemer Posted July 13, 2014 Share Posted July 13, 2014 Games? Ocarina of Time, Majora's Mask, Banjo Kazooie... I could never get enough of those three. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geoprimedonna Posted July 13, 2014 Author Share Posted July 13, 2014 True. My list: super smash bros, starfox (both snes and 64), yoshi's cookie, earthbound, final fantasy, q*bert, legend of Zelda, and many others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vy'drach Posted July 14, 2014 Share Posted July 14, 2014 I wouldn't say that cartoons are more adult nowadays, because there were a lot of adult jokes in the 90's. Animaniacs alone was stuffed with them, but Disney, other Warner Bros, Nickelodeon, and Cartoon Network all had plenty of adult jokes. Johnny Bravo taking offense to being called a virgin, Exile's "Don't be weird boy" to Blitz all the time in Road Rovers (Basically saying "Don't be gay with me), Hercules looking at a centaur dong in the movie, circumcision jokes in The Rugrats, you name it, really. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psy_commando Posted July 14, 2014 Share Posted July 14, 2014 I'm really glad not to be living in the 90s anymore.. Even though, I might miss a few things, its really not worth going back in time for that.. xD Meh, a few years ago it was all about growing up in the 80s. In a few years, it will be all about growing up in the 2000s. A few years after that, the 2010s, then the 2020s, ad infinitum. Thing is, a lot of it is just nostalgia. Viewed through an objective lens, honestly, Children's TV programming has sucked since the decline of the classic Warner and Disney cartoons in the 1960s. Those cartoons were entertaining for children, but also had some hidden adult humor in them, too. There were jokes about the world wars (including one where Bugs Bunny pretended to be Hitler), jokes about race, and other social jokes. Such things are not considered "kid-friendly" and acceptable in modern cartoons. In fact, there are 11 classic Warner shorts that are deemed too racially insensitive to ever be shown again. Though I will say the absolute worst Children's program did occur during the 1990s: Barney and Friends. It wasn't educational. It wasn't entertaining. It was just people in Dinosaur costumes pointless walking around in a preschool-like building talking pointlessly to the kids there. I, for one, don't miss the 1990s. Slow, dial-up internet, VHS Tapes, CDs, shitty cars (though the 80s were worse), no smart phones, music wasn't portable, video definately wasn't, 480i TV signals. Why would anyone want to go back to that? Honestly.. I hated all Disney made saturday morning cartoons.. Especially Roadrunner and Bugs Bunny... I'd end up watching them because there was nothing else to watch or do, so it kinda got associated with boredom for me.. Though I loved their animated movies. I think one of the issue with those Disney cartoon was how I'd end up hating the main characters and like the villains more.. xD I think I loved a lot more what Hanna-Barbera was doing, in terms of cartoons.. Well, maybe not all that much.. But still much more than Disney ! Actually, I think most big studio had the less memorable cartoons of my childhood. Its the completely unheard of studios that usually totally got my short attention span.. Not that I didn't watch cartoons if they weren't that good.. I'd watch them anyways if there was nothing else to do.. I think one of the cartoons I remember the most was that Sherlock Hound Cartoon ! (It was actually called Sherlock Holmes in French without the pun) And there's this one Alfred J Kwack.. I just remembered it for some reasons.. Its another foreign cartoon imported because it was one of the few cartoon series translated to French (I remember it seriously traumatized me in one episode, but I can't remember why or how..): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tBjrBq6ETSE (I like those strings samples at around 0:40 for some reasons!) And then there is the freaking Moomins, Dogtanian and the Three Muskehounds, Widget, les Aventuriers de l'Espace (Uchūsen Sagittarius), Dexter's Lab, The Animals of Farthing Wood, Pokemon, and a crapload more that I'd better not try to look up or I'll waste several days writing this and nobody will care about it anyways ! xD https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NNldTlaWZoM But, to be honest, I think I forgot about most of the cartoons I watched as a kid. And a lot of them traumatized me at one point ! xD And now I realize that I actually seem to have preferred anime as a kid.. Since thanks to this thread I wasted my entire evening watching those old freaking cartoons, and realized that most of them were animated in Japan with that particular style.. xD How about Nintendo Power, folks!? No NP for French Canada, unless you could read English that is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vy'drach Posted July 14, 2014 Share Posted July 14, 2014 Honestly.. I hated all Disney made saturday morning cartoons.. Especially Roadrunner and Bugs Bunny... That... is not Disney. That is Warner Brothers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psy_commando Posted July 14, 2014 Share Posted July 14, 2014 That... is not Disney. That is Warner Brothers. I don't care, I call everything I don't like Disney Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InfinitySquared Posted July 14, 2014 Share Posted July 14, 2014 Didn't Miyazaki work on that Sherlock Hound show? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psy_commando Posted July 14, 2014 Share Posted July 14, 2014 Didn't Miyazaki work on that Sherlock Hound show? Yep, the first season I think. And supposedly that the episodes he did were the best out of the whole series. Can't say I watched any of his other works though, I just stumbled on that info browsing the web searching for details Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terramax Posted July 15, 2014 Share Posted July 15, 2014 Honestly.. I hated all Disney made saturday morning cartoons.. Especially Roadrunner and Bugs Bunny... I'd end up watching them because there was nothing else to watch or do, so it kinda got associated with boredom for me.. Well, lucky for me, I grew up with 90's anime. Now that stuff RULED. At the age of 13, I was cutting my teeth on the likes of Ninja Scroll, Dominion Tank Police, Akira, Patlabor 2, Ghost in the Shell, El Hazard, and Guyver. Heck, that's another reason I loved the 90's. The animes were so cool then. They had more freedom to write and make what they wanted, and it showed. It was great to watch cartoons which didn't talk down to me, the way Western TV shows did. But then Pokemon came to the West, and f&%ked up everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Orange Posted July 15, 2014 Share Posted July 15, 2014 Heck, that's another reason I loved the 90's. The animes were so cool then. They had more freedom to write and make what they wanted, and it showed. It was great to watch cartoons which didn't talk down to me, the way Western TV shows did. But then Pokemon came to the West, and f&%ked up everything. The English version of Pokemon wasn't bad when it came to the US. It evolved through demands of American audiences (or something point is the show was shit after DnP and good at XnY) And most animes still have a lot of freedom to write what they want. What Western TV talks down to it's audiences? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geoprimedonna Posted July 16, 2014 Author Share Posted July 16, 2014 What if a new version of the Saturday Super cade came out on TV, folks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InfinitySquared Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 God help us all. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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