The VGM Lover Posted July 11, 2015 Share Posted July 11, 2015 This thread is to help encourage members of this fine community to get Wolf back in Smash, hence the title! Let's talk and show the community, not to mention the lurkers, why Wolf would make an excellent returning character! For me, it's all about timing. If we could convice Nintendo to release Wolf as a returning Character in Smash, we could capitalize on the release of Star Fox Zero.It's not much of a persuasion paragraph, but if you're already convinced, here's the link to the Smash Ballot: https://cp.nintendo.co.jp/us/ Details through the link. Thank you very much for reading! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeroscope Posted July 11, 2015 Share Posted July 11, 2015 I guarantee you, Wolf is going to eventually make it in. In several straw polls, he's in the top ten. Just be patient. And if not, chill.I will say this though: At least you're not trying to get Krystal in. I laugh whenever anyone from the furry fandom makes the argument that she's popular. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrypticQuery Posted July 11, 2015 Share Posted July 11, 2015 I submitted my vote for him a while back, but I have a suspicion that the voting form just redirects to a recycling bin in Nintendo's basement somewhere.Also, relevant. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeroscope Posted July 11, 2015 Share Posted July 11, 2015 Oh God, I have a really good image to share, but it's on my laptop which is in my car and I'm a lazy bum. It's a ballot submission I did right after Wolf which was supposed to be a complete joke. We called it Mah Dick and named every single game that a dick appears XD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Orange Posted July 11, 2015 Share Posted July 11, 2015 (edited) I will say this though: At least you're not trying to get Krystal in. I laugh whenever anyone from the furry fandom makes the argument that she's popular.Not popular? Every furry at the mention of the blue fox would whip their dicks in unison. I don't care who gets in, but I would bet. Edited July 11, 2015 by Dr. Orange 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlGore'sleftshoe Posted July 11, 2015 Share Posted July 11, 2015 (edited) For how much heavy abuse and disappointment Nintendo has hit its fans with. StarFox DESERVES four reps, seriously how can fucking Mario get like seven but StarFox is down to 2!?I don't care what people say, FURRY ELITISM FTW, realize that furries are a culture surrounding anthropomorphic animal-like humanoids, not fucking R34. Wolf AND Krystal should appear, both are in demand, and both make great characters. Falco is a fucking clone, no doubt about it, Wolf actually had original moves, whereas the changes made to Falco in Brawl and Peeyou, were heavily forced and incoherent, Nintendo seemingly disappoints me on a daily basis so I guess I'm used to it.Krystal could introduce a new class and be a pole-arm wielder, we already have sword wielders so why not!? With that and mystical powers and such, and an original final smash, She could be the SF character that finally breaks the trend of StarFox clones, instead of blasters and shit she could use mystical powers and her melee weapon, instead of being a speed character she could be a heavier character; speaking of which it seems sexist that all female reps in Smash are light-agility characters, break that trend with her and others. As implied in previous sentence, ALWAYS room for more female characters.Also, the intolerance towards furries here is just astounding, but I think I'll just blow my opinions on that subject out my ass, like everyone else should, ironically because they aren't doing that, it's like in the 1960s where it was shameful to be anything other than a white male. I'm sorry I'm not what you think I should be. Edited July 11, 2015 by AlGore'sleftshoe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeroscope Posted July 11, 2015 Share Posted July 11, 2015 (edited) Not popular? Every furry at the mention of the blue fox would whip their dicks in unison. I don't care who gets in, but I would bet.My point exactly. Everyone outside of that doesn't care. And that's A LOT of people. Edited July 11, 2015 by Jeroscope Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drasiana Posted July 11, 2015 Share Posted July 11, 2015 there's no way wolf won't be released as DLC timed with SFZ's release considering they've been steadily releasing all "cut" characters like that ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlGore'sleftshoe Posted July 11, 2015 Share Posted July 11, 2015 My point exactly. Everyone outside of that doesn't care. And that's A LOT of people.People piss me off in general, even other furries, seriously. Some of the most sarcastic fucks I've ever met, excuse my french... I hate sarcasm. But it is one of my favorite subject matters for creative work, character design, and...well I really like animals, better than I like most humans other than a select few. But there are A LOT of Krystal fans who want her for more than just fap candy. I don't care what the hell you are into, you can be a god damn clopper, and I won't give a shit so long as that kinky shit stays in your Web history where it belongs, all I can say is keep it to yourself, and keep your zipper up when you are trying to have a serious conversation. I don't see many serious conversations here or anywhere, ever.Sorry if I flew off the handle with those two comments, in addition to my crap stain of a reputation here, I understand the fact that my being pissed off seemingly all the time isn't helping. But I'd also like to eliminate wrongful stigma towards various fandoms, people give each other crap on the internet, and on here way too much just for being a fan of some shit that another person apparently cannot ignore or tolerate. like four or five of my friends in real life are all furries including myself, and I have another friend who finds it weird, but she doesn't call me furfag or anything like that, she even likes some of the art. If you don't like something, either don't give a shit, or tolerate it, that's all I wish I could expect, not that I do expect something like that, usually when I set expectations, they are usually let down. I'm used to mediocrity, not that I lost control of my life, so much as I never had a grip on it to begin with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Orange Posted July 11, 2015 Share Posted July 11, 2015 People piss me off in general, even other furries, seriously. Some of the most sarcastic fucks I've ever met, excuse my french... I hate sarcasm. But it is one of my favorite subject matters for creative work, character design, and...well I really like animals, better than I like most humans other than a select few. But there are A LOT of Krystal fans who want her for more than just fap candy. I don't care what the hell you are into, you can be a god damn clopper, and I won't give a shit so long as that kinky shit stays in your Web history where it belongs, all I can say is keep it to yourself, and keep your zipper up when you are trying to have a serious conversation. >tfw I'm a Krystal fan>tfw I want her is smash since cool player idea and as fap material>tfw #freethezipperGet ready for the future because It just goes downhill from here.My point exactly. Everyone outside of that doesn't care. And that's A LOT of people.Nintendo Fans that are Also Furry Fans is = A lot of people. A lot of people.A LOT OF PEOPLE. Sad but tru. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeroscope Posted July 11, 2015 Share Posted July 11, 2015 (edited) Yeah. No. Not even close. Not by a long shot. If the antendees at MAGFest are any indication (and I staff it so I can do that strawpoll this year for your amusement), Nintendo fans are a truly mixed bag. There are bronies, furries, casuals, weaboos, sci-fi nerds, fantasy nerds, racing fans, etc. The same can be said about any major console fangroup, and like the rest of the world, furries account for a fraction of that, even when you include bronies.And even talking from self experience, the only way my friends even know who Krystal is is because of Jontron's Star Fox Adv- *ahem* I mean Stair Fax Temperatures review.Truth of the matter is the viewpoint of this discussion within the furry community about Krystal in Smash is skewed, and the results of the Smash Ballot show that: https://www.reddit.com/r/smashbros/comments/32mcez/final_results_the_smash_bros_dlc_reddit_survey_is/You tell me she's so damn popular? I tell you she comprises LESS THAN 1 PERCENT of the results. Yes, I did the math and even took out 2000 points of results so I was being generous.EDIT: You know what, continuing this argument is just going to make me more hated on this site, so I'm just going to leave you with that.EDIT 2: I lied. She accounts for 1.8 percent of the vote, but I can find others where she doesn't appear at all. Edited July 11, 2015 by Jeroscope Mathematical error. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Orange Posted July 11, 2015 Share Posted July 11, 2015 That poll is cool and all but Shovel Knight appears on it. A lot of non nintendo characters are on that poll. Speaking from a tactical point, Krystal has a better chance given the connection to nintendo. Banjo was number one but what would be the chances Microsoft allows that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeroscope Posted July 11, 2015 Share Posted July 11, 2015 (edited) Ryu made it in through the ballot. Snake was in Brawl. Sonic is in. Mega Man and Pac-Man are in.Also, the designers of Shovel Knight I'm pretty sure would gladly let Nintendo put him in Smash. Point nullified.In addition, given that Star Fox Zero is a reboot and so far we haven't seen Krystal in it and she also did not make a single appearance in the easter eggs in the Star Fox Assault stage in the new Smash gives some indication that Nintendo is kinda done with her. Edited July 11, 2015 by Jeroscope syntax error Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drasiana Posted July 11, 2015 Share Posted July 11, 2015 People piss me off in general, even other furries, seriously. Sorry if I flew off the handle with those two comments, in addition to my crap stain of a reputation here, I understand the fact that my being pissed off seemingly all the time isn't helping.If you don't like something, either don't give a shit, or tolerate it, that's all I wish I could expect (Drasnote: he says after stalking a dude to SFO because he had The Wrong Opinion)not that I do expect something like that, usually when I set expectations, they are usually let down. I'm used to mediocrity, not that I lost control of my life, so much as I never had a grip on it to begin with. approximately 0 of this post is about Getting Wolf Back in Smash Bros, approximately all of it is about how you should be in therapy instead of defending the furry fandom on the internet. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Orange Posted July 11, 2015 Share Posted July 11, 2015 Ryu made it in through the ballot. Snake was in Brawl. Sonic is in. Mega Man and Pac-Man are in.Also, the designers of Shovel Knight I'm pretty sure would gladly let Nintendo put him in Smash. Point nullified.Ryu, mega and pac Have been around long enough to have the ability to cross games. Segs and nintendo work so close together they be yeah. The characters that made in have a status of fame that a lot of these characters don't have. "Point nullified" what are you getting at? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xortberg Posted July 11, 2015 Share Posted July 11, 2015 Plus I may be wrong but wasn't Snake in Brawl because Sakurai and Kojima are buddies or something? I forget where I heard that so it very well may be wrong but still 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The VGM Lover Posted July 11, 2015 Author Share Posted July 11, 2015 Wow... Only two people mentioned Wolf at all. We need to focus, my friends, or no lurker is going to be interested in this topic-turned-argument. Answer me this: how popular was Wolf when he made it to Brawl? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlGore'sleftshoe Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 Just so happened I talked a lot about Wolf, plus Reddit accounts for nothing, who the hell gets their population numbers from Reddit!!? And everyone just implied that I said THE DIRECT OPPOSITE OF WHAT I TRIED TO STATE.What I'm trying to say is Krystal's numbers are truly formidable, but there is a huge difference between what Nintendo should do, and what Nintendo would do. Krystal's gone down the same path as Miyu, Fey and pretty much everyone from the comics; never to be seen again,. Nintendo's fucking wasteful. I probably won't be investing in StarFox games anytime soon...or at least not Zero, which will probably be the last StarFox game EVER.Would if: SF Zero is just a reimagining of 64/SNES like what Miyamoto said and that a "Part 4" or "part 5" might happen? It probably won't though...Also, Krystal and all of team StarWolf were TROPHIES in WiiU, so they still existed, but not for long. More than I can say for previous StarFox stuff but...Nintendo just hasn't handled the series well, ever. Wow... Only two people mentioned Wolf at all. We need to focus, my friends, or no lurker is going to be interested in this topic-turned-argument. Answer me this: how popular was Wolf when he made it to Brawl?Wolf probably will if his numbers do well, unless This entire Smash bros poll is just a number sketch and means nothing else. NIntendo never implicitly said that the top characters in the poll will make it into smash bros, they might just want to see which characters are the most popular. approximately 0 of this post is about Getting Wolf Back in Smash Bros, approximately all of it is about how you should be in therapy instead of defending the furry fandom on the internet. Oh and...Therapy doesn't do jack shit. I would know I was going to major in psychology, but then I saw how bitterly useless their tactics on helping people are, they couldn't teach a depressed potato to become fries if they shoved it through a fry-grater. lel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unoservix Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 Wow... Only two people mentioned Wolf at all. We need to focus, my friends, or no lurker is going to be interested in this topic-turned-argument. Answer me this: how popular was Wolf when he made it to Brawl?shhhhh no no leftshoe is having a meltdown, just sit back and enjoy 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Orange Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 This whole thread just suddenly ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drasiana Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 (edited) Oh and...Therapy doesn't do jack shit.because truly the best alternative is stalking people online and getting really really mad at strangers over space furries to the point where every topic you post in gets derailed by how much you evidently hate posting herego get therapy i don't care how much your college sucked Edited July 12, 2015 by Drasiana 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlGore'sleftshoe Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 what did I do? why does everyone think I stocked him, when one of his tweedle-dum friends views my profile like once a week and follows me on every post? I have said NOTHING to offend you so far... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlGore'sleftshoe Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 Falco is a fucking clone, no doubt about it, Wolf actually had original moves, whereas the changes made to Falco in Brawl and Peeyou, were heavily forced and incoherent,JUST that one line from me....had more to support Wolf for smash than anything else said here....you all completely ignored it, just so you could give me some more shit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giladen Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 None of the games after 64 have the pop culture public's attention the way 64 does. So yeah, Krystal really isn't that much of a big deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeroscope Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 (edited) Reddit accounts for nothing, who the hell gets their population numbers from Reddit!!? It's a social media site with strict rules and specific subsections for just about everything. Those numbers were pulled from the Smash Subreddit. I'd like to see you do better.Anyway, but as for the top of Wolf getting in Smash, like I said, it's gonna happen. They're not exactly done with DLC characters yet so they'll get the top few in like King K Rool and stuff. Just keep putting his name in the ballot and it'll be all cool.EDIT: Oh, about the joke submission I was gonna share earlier... Enjoy. Edited July 12, 2015 by Jeroscope Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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