Information Gathering: Wolf O'Donnell.

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Wolf O'Donnell is arguably one of the most mysterious character in the Star Fox Franchise, however there are hints about what backstory the mysterious canine might have.

While Wolf is said to have been 19 years old during Star Fox 64, he appears to have been retconned into being much older than Fox in Star Fox Assault judging by his older sounding and rougher voice in said game. His tone of voice later on was carried over to Super Smash Bros. Brawl and Star Fox Zero, and the StarFox Wiki goes as far as listing him as 38 years old, with Fox being listed as 29.

While Wolf has no Homeworld established, it's safe to assume Wolf may not have originated from Corneria, as both General Pepper and Cornerian soldiers appear to speak with American accents. Additionaly, the Star Fox Zero: The Battle Begins Animated Short suggests that Corneria's native population consists only of cats and dogs.

This has lead to some people speculating that Wolf may have originated from elsewhere in the galaxy, such as Macbeth (Such as the Lylat Legacy fanseries comic, and the fanfiction called Notorious: The Life of Wolf O'Donnell.)

Despite this, the manual for Star Fox Assault states that Wolf has been wanted by the Cornerian army for many years due to crimes such as larnecy and treason.

It is also unclear when Star Wolf was formed. It is stated that Wolf formed Star Wolf when he was hired by Andross, however the Star Fox Wiki claims Star Wolf and Star Fox tangled in battle many times before then, but Wolf's trophy in Super Smash Bros. for Wii U and 3DS suggests that Wolf formed Star Wolf after having served Andross before the latter was exiled to Venom. The Star Fox Wiki claims Wolf met Leon in a bar on Venom after being hired by Andross to form Star Wolf.

Hence, it is difficult to establish when exactly the team was formed, or who he formed it with.

Interestingly, the Star Fox wiki claims Wolf used to be the leader of a gang of Space Pirates, presumably the same ones who fought the Cornerian Army at Sector Z. If this is true, it would explain how Wolf recruited various criminals around the time of Star Fox Assault, who even went as far as call him "Lord O'Donnell".

The Japanese Star Fox 64 guide interestingly refers to Star Wolf as a "band of outcasts manipulated by Pigma." Judging by the Star Fox Assault manual mentioning Wolf being wanted for larnecy and treason, it's safe to assume Wolf does still have some kind of past connection with Corneria. Pigma manipulating Star Wolf is also backed up by Pigma's Smash 4 trophy claiming he convinced Wolf to form Star Wolf, but as previously stated, exactly when is difficult to establish.

Wolf is also said to have a past rivalry with James McCloud in Super Smash Bros. Brawl. This was later confirmed in Star Fox Zero with Wolf saying the following to Fox during their one-on-one battle on Fichina: "I'm impressed! I haven't had this much fun since I fought your father." And an unused Voice Clip has Wolf say the following: "What's wrong? Your father put up more of a fight!"

Wolf is also hinted at having a grudging respect for James and Fox. In Star Fox Assault, Wolf would utter the following words if he shot down Fox: "You ain't your father after all..." Additionaly, Star Fox Command claims that both Fox and Wolf have a grudging respect towards each other.

A user on Gamefaqs has also stated Miyamoto said that Fox and Wolf were friends before Wolf was contacted by Pigma. Wolf is also said to have had a pupil-master relationship with James on the StarFox Wiki.

This makes sense since Fox clearly knows about Star Wolf before they meet each other on Fichina in Star Fox 64 and in Sector Beta in Star Fox Zero. 

Wolf's quotes in Star Fox 64 and Star Fox Zero have also let many fans to believe Wolf had some kind of involvement with the death of James McCloud, where Wolf would say "You'll be seeing your dad soon, Fox!" in SF64 and "You'll be seeing your father soon..." in SF0.

I am aware that the StarFox wiki lacks sources however. If anyone has any information or hints about Wolf and his team, feel free to post in the comments.

(And feel free to move this post if needed.)

[That Ain't Falco]

Conglaturations, Frient! Wilkommen to Der Plot Hole! (a hole into which some plot has fallen)

Here in the plot hole you may find:

-Canonical Inconsistencies!

-Missing Lore!

-Falco's Entire Backstory! (minus Free-As-A-Bird)

Please enjoy your stay~

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41 minutes ago, That Ain't Falco said:

Conglaturations, Frient! Wilkommen to Der Plot Hole! (a hole into which some plot has fallen)

Here in the plot hole you may find:

-Canonical Inconsistencies!

-Missing Lore!

-Falco's Entire Backstory! (minus Free-As-A-Bird)

Please enjoy your stay~

There are inconsistensies and a lot of missing information, indeed. Though I haven't mentioned Falco anywhere in this thread, so not sure what that last point meant.

[CommanderRed]

Nice information gathering! Wolf's backstory was always interesting because THE GAMES EXPLAIN NOTHING. When I got StarFox Zero, I thought the book that came with the game(Well it was an addition 40 bucks) was going to be like Hyrule historia and not a guide book. Imagine if StarFox got one of those.

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We really do need a Lylat Historia.

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2 hours ago, That Ain't Falco said:

We really do need a Lylat Historia.

It'd be called, "The Lylat Database"!

As for the topic at hand, Wolf is my personal favourite character in fiction.

What we know of his backstory is as follows:
Wolf ran a gang of space pirates, which fought Cornerian forces in Sector Z(If that's still canon, since it's a Star Fox 64 thing). Presumably during this period, he fought James, although when he did, he hadn't formed Star Wolf yet.
Andross hired him, and Pigma and him gave the newly formed Star Wolf team their Wolfens.
Andross put Andrew and Pigma in Star Wolf, and Wolf hired Leon.

I don't know why someone said that Fox and Wolf used to be friends; as far as we know, they didn't.

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21 minutes ago, SF Alba said:

It'd be called, "The Lylat Database"!

As for the topic at hand, Wolf is my personal favourite character in fiction.

What we know of his backstory is as follows:
Wolf ran a gang of space pirates, which fought Cornerian forces in Sector Z(If that's still canon, since it's a Star Fox 64 thing). Presumably during this period, he fought James, although when he did, he hadn't formed Star Wolf yet.
Andross hired him, and Pigma and him gave the newly formed Star Wolf team their Wolfens.
Andross put Andrew and Pigma in Star Wolf, and Wolf hired Leon.

I don't know why someone said that Fox and Wolf used to be friends; as far as we know, they didn't.

Last poster on this old thread said so. I haven't found anything about Miyamoto saying Fox and Wolf used to be friends though.

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On 2016-06-09 at 11:34 PM, SF Alba said:

It'd be called, "The Lylat Database"!

As for the topic at hand, Wolf is my personal favourite character in fiction.

What we know of his backstory is as follows:
Wolf ran a gang of space pirates, which fought Cornerian forces in Sector Z(If that's still canon, since it's a Star Fox 64 thing). Presumably during this period, he fought James, although when he did, he hadn't formed Star Wolf yet.
Andross hired him, and Pigma and him gave the newly formed Star Wolf team their Wolfens.
Andross put Andrew and Pigma in Star Wolf, and Wolf hired Leon.

I don't know why someone said that Fox and Wolf used to be friends; as far as we know, they didn't.

http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/198759-star-fox-64/43203075?page=1 Last poster there. Took a while to find it and I've been busy IRL, that's why it took a while to find it, my bad

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1 hour ago, Swedguy said:

http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/198759-star-fox-64/43203075?page=1 Last poster there. Took a while to find it and I've been busy IRL, that's why it took a while to find it, my bad

Oh, that's just not true.

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On 2016-07-26 at 10:08 PM, SF Alba said:

Oh, that's just not true.

Which one? Fox and Falco having been friends or Wolf being James?

In all seriousness, I don't think they were friends before. Despite their respect, Wolf really wants Fox dead. I remember in an unused Voice Clip for SFZ where Wolf said "Wherever you go, I will hunt you down!" which I think was meant to play if you ignore Wolf on Fortuna. To me a former friend turned rival might not want to put you down that much.

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4 hours ago, Swedguy said:

Which one? Fox and Falco having been friends or Wolf being James?

In all seriousness, I don't think they were friends before. Despite their respect, Wolf really wants Fox dead. I remember in an unused Voice Clip for SFZ where Wolf said "Wherever you go, I will hunt you down!" which I think was meant to play if you ignore Wolf on Fortuna. To me a former friend turned rival might not want to put you down that much.

Fox and Wolf have never been friends.

Wolf used to be a pirate, and supposedly played a key role in James' death. Also, Wolf is almost ten years older than Fox, so they wouldn't have been childhood friends or anything.

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19 hours ago, SF Alba said:

Fox and Wolf have never been friends.

Wolf used to be a pirate, and supposedly played a key role in James' death. Also, Wolf is almost ten years older than Fox, so they wouldn't have been childhood friends or anything.

Agreed. But I'm still curious about the claim that Wolf had a pupil-master relationship with James, as well as him (and Leon) being supposed outcasts manipulated by Pigma. Do you have any ideas what that might revolve around?

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1 hour ago, Swedguy said:

Agreed. But I'm still curious about the claim that Wolf had a pupil-master relationship with James, as well as him (and Leon) being supposed outcasts manipulated by Pigma. Do you have any ideas what that might revolve around?

There's absolutely nothing in canon to suggest that Wolf had a pupil/master relationship with James. The only connection between James and Wolf we have, pre-Lylat War, is that they fought each other at least once.

As for Leon, we have no connection between him and Wolf or Pigma before the formation of Star Wolf. He was recruited by Wolf in a rough bar on Venom, not by Pigma.

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29 minutes ago, SF Alba said:

There's absolutely nothing in canon to suggest that Wolf had a pupil/master relationship with James. The only connection between James and Wolf we have, pre-Lylat War, is that they fought each other at least once.

As for Leon, we have no connection between him and Wolf or Pigma before the formation of Star Wolf. He was recruited by Wolf in a rough bar on Venom, not by Pigma.

I remember reading in theh SF64 Guide that they were both outcasts, though I haven't found any material that says anything about Wolf recruiting Leon on Venom (I still think that's definitely possible). Truth is I haven't even found anything about Wolf having been a pirate leader before the Lylat Wars. Do you have a link for any of those?

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Wolf plays a...much interesting role in my story. Does his origin involving Dark Magic sound anticlimactic?

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5 hours ago, Swedguy said:

I remember reading in theh SF64 Guide that they were both outcasts, though I haven't found any material that says anything about Wolf recruiting Leon on Venom (I still think that's definitely possible). Truth is I haven't even found anything about Wolf having been a pirate leader before the Lylat Wars. Do you have a link for any of those?

Taken from official Star Fox 64 material:

http://starfox64.baldninja.com/sf64cast.htm

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12 hours ago, SF Alba said:

Taken from official Star Fox 64 material:

http://starfox64.baldninja.com/sf64cast.htm

I don't think I need any more confirmation than that I guess lol.
Interestingly it doesn't mention anything about Pigma manipulating Wolf into forming Star Wolf. I do still believe he has/had some kind of connection to Corneria earlier, but I'm not sure if Corneria is his homeworld.

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7 hours ago, Swedguy said:

I don't think I need any more confirmation than that I guess lol.
Interestingly it doesn't mention anything about Pigma manipulating Wolf into forming Star Wolf. I do still believe he has/had some kind of connection to Corneria earlier, but I'm not sure if Corneria is his homeworld.

Pigma didn't manipulate Wolf, Andross hired him to form Star Wolf.

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10 minutes ago, SF Alba said:

Pigma didn't manipulate Wolf, Andross hired him to form Star Wolf.

I know, but the SF64 guide says Pigma and Andross both manipulated him into forming the team. Though I guess the guide should be taken with a grain of salt.

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On 2016-07-31 at 7:56 PM, SF Alba said:

Pigma didn't manipulate Wolf, Andross hired him to form Star Wolf.

In fact, I'm starting to think the only one who knows about Wolf's, Leon's and Pi backstory for sure is Imamura. I still think Wolf had some kind of past relationship with Fox. I feel like the Japanese Guide has some value to it.