UAZ-469 Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 I actually have a hard time believing that a stalemate will occur, since the CDF can't just replenish their forces that easily and will be overrun sooner or later, as the undead can't really lose troops, they just have to "retire". But I doubt that Star Wolf would join the enemy. They may be your usual psychos for hire, but I'm sure that they only fought for Andross because he offered them a lot of rubees and not because they believed in his schemes. And being trapped in an undead state, with all its drawbacks like not being able to feel anything, taking away all their enjoyments in life, doesn't really sound like an improvement. Not sure if the commander can even offer money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david201 Posted March 21, 2017 Author Share Posted March 21, 2017 4 hours ago, UAZ-469 said: I actually have a hard time believing that a stalemate will occur, since the CDF can't just replenish their forces that easily and will be overrun sooner or later, as the undead can't really lose troops, they just have to "retire". But I doubt that Star Wolf would join the enemy. They may be your usual psychos for hire, but I'm sure that they only fought for Andross because he offered them a lot of rubees and not because they believed in his schemes. And being trapped in an undead state, with all its drawbacks like not being able to feel anything, taking away all their enjoyments in life, doesn't really sound like an improvement. Not sure if the commander can even offer money. Though the game would have a plot so they wont be doing this forever, what the commander would offer is "A thousands years before the mast". but the ships have something else too but this is how i'd describe it: "There was chest on chest of Spanish gold, With a ton of plate in the middle hold, And the cabins riot of stuff untold." And also i mentioned before that James McCloud would be part of the cursed crew, as he never truly died in this situation, the otherworldly properties of sector omega resurrected him as an undead (though he is the least mutuated/decayed next to a few others such as the commander aside from just discolored and grayed fur). Fox meeting his undead father would be similar to Will meeting Bootstrap Bill Turner from the pirates movies. I also have another idea of fox and his team actually boarding the ghost ships, fighting the crews and damaging them from the inside, and their extra pay would come from looting the questionably huge amount of "treasure" found inside many of the ghost ships for some unexplained reason. Another thing about the ghost ships is that as a side effect of sector omega, the some of ships move rather organically, with entire sections articulated like some enormous waterborne/spaceborne leviathan (see potc 5 gif) resulting in soem fantastic and bizarre moments. imagine fighting one of those as a boss whiel the ghost ship articulates and flexes bixzarrely like some organic creature all while shooting weak points, that get exposed by its movements. Also when the ghost fleet and ships transition from the other dimension to visible space, they dont come out of a portal like the ships in zero, but rather the fabric of space acts like the surface of the ocean, and they emerge out of it like how the Flying Dutchman rises out of the sea in the movies. when damaged or the reactor destroyed, the way the ships retreat would give the impression that their either sinking like a ship at sea or submerging like a submarine. Space battleship yamato did this when depicting dimension submarines, whenever they transition from sub space to visible space, the space around them acts like water with visible spray and waves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david201 Posted March 21, 2017 Author Share Posted March 21, 2017 Would anyone agree if out of this dimension could be the space equivalent of being sent to Davy Jones' Locker? We know that in the snes version of star fox, when fox is sent ut of this dimension, andross uses his absence to conquer lylat. Though imagine this happening: Peppy, Falco, and Slippy are determined to get fox back in any way possible, and seek the help of a cerinian mystic and an unlikely ally to figure out how. They eventually do find an alternative way in and reunite with fox (who is on the verge going mad), as well as finding a way back in the most ridiculous and unconventional way possible. They meet up with resistance fighters and prepare to retake lylat from andross. does this all sound familiar? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snys93 Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 I guess so, who is to say the true makeup of the dimension and it's properties? Maybe it's outside our realm of understanding and therefore a realm of infinite possiblies. Fox Mcloud + Jack Sparrow = a unique character change, but otherwise fine in my book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david201 Posted March 21, 2017 Author Share Posted March 21, 2017 9 minutes ago, Snes1993 said: I guess so, who is to say the true makeup of the dimension and it's properties? Maybe it's outside our realm of understanding and therefore a realm of infinite possiblies. Fox Mcloud + Jack Sparrow = a unique character change, but otherwise fine in my book. and a bit of will turner if you take into account james that would only make wolf o'donnell, hector barbossa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snys93 Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 4 minutes ago, david201 said: that would only make wolf, barbossa And Andross as Davy Jones or do you an original character for that slot? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david201 Posted March 21, 2017 Author Share Posted March 21, 2017 6 minutes ago, Snes1993 said: And Andross as Davy Jones or do you an original character for that slot? i would prefer an oc instead. Andross is more cutler beckett Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snys93 Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 1 hour ago, david201 said: i would prefer an oc instead. Andross is more cutler beckett Interesting. Kinda see an old cornerian battleship as the Flying Dutchmen, all corroded and battle scarred with Resident Evil 7 black goop everywhere on the inside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david201 Posted March 21, 2017 Author Share Posted March 21, 2017 12 hours ago, Snes1993 said: Interesting. and it's also capable of subspace/dimensional travel. also somewhat deformed. it apparently has origins coming from sector omega 13 hours ago, Snes1993 said: Fox Mcloud + Jack Sparrow CAPTAIN Jack Sparrow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snys93 Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 39 minutes ago, david201 said: and it's also capable of subspace/dimensional travel. also somewhat deformed. it apparently has origins coming from sector omega CAPTAIN Jack Sparrow Ah yes, Captain... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david201 Posted March 21, 2017 Author Share Posted March 21, 2017 1 minute ago, Snes1993 said: Ah yes, Captain... though returning to the space flying dutchman and how it transitions from the sector omega dimension to normal space. whenever it enters or exist sub space or normal space, the fabric between dimensions behaves similarly to water on the surface of the ocean. this is as a means of translating the flying dutchman's ability to travel underwater and emerge or submerge at will into a space environment like starfox. Certain works of sci fi see use that trope. man i really think sector omega is the place where scary stuff is spawned Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snys93 Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 57 minutes ago, david201 said: though returning to the space flying dutchman and how it transitions from the sector omega dimension to normal space. whenever it enters or exist sub space or normal space, the fabric between dimensions behaves similarly to water on the surface of the ocean. this is as a means of translating the flying dutchman's ability to travel underwater and emerge or submerge at will into a space environment like starfox. Certain works of sci fi see use that trope. man i really think sector omega is the place where scary stuff is spawned So like a cloaking device. But using the warped fabric of space, interesting. You have a name for this yet? Perhaps an Etha Distortion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david201 Posted March 21, 2017 Author Share Posted March 21, 2017 7 hours ago, Snes1993 said: So like a cloaking device. But using the warped fabric of space, interesting. You have a name for this yet? Perhaps an Etha Distortion? more like this: When i meant "behave like water" i meant it in the literal sense, the dimensional rift splashing, spraying and foaming like water as the ghost ship rises into normal space, even making wakes and waves is the ship emerges horizontally. This isnt cloaking this is literally travelling through a different dimension and reaching a position that is relative in normal space and then transitioning through a rift that behaves like the surface of the ocean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snys93 Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 8 hours ago, david201 said: more like this: When i meant "behave like water" i meant it in the literal sense, the dimensional rift splashing, spraying and foaming like water as the ghost ship rises into normal space, even making wakes and waves is the ship emerges horizontally. This isnt cloaking this is literally travelling through a different dimension and reaching a position that is relative in normal space and then transitioning through a rift that behaves like the surface of the ocean. I see...kinda...I think. So this ship passes from dimension to another as a means of "cloak". I'm thinking the CDF would have difficulty tracking it if it does decide to "go under". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david201 Posted March 22, 2017 Author Share Posted March 22, 2017 3 hours ago, Snes1993 said: I see...kinda...I think. So this ship passes from dimension to another as a means of "cloak". I'm thinking the CDF would have difficulty tracking it if it does decide to "go under". it acquired those powers via supernatual means because it was one of the countless victims of andross's teleportation experiments around sector omega before and during the lylat war. that's one of the attributes to being trapped in a purgatory between dimensions anyhow. All of this is is far beyond cornerian science or technology. to make matters worse there is sometimes an entire fleet of ghost ships following this singular vessel, and it's also impossible to track given, they sometimes travel in that other dimension, making their whereabouts unpredictable as they can be anywhere at any given moment without warning. Also i drew the ghost commander's face: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UAZ-469 Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 How about another version: Star Fox actually managed to beat Andross without Fox, but of course came to rescue him. Problem is, that Fox actually went insane, but somehow used the other dimension's weird physics to shape it to his liking - if he only didn't lose his mind. So his mates basically have to fight through a now mad man's world in the hopes to reach him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david201 Posted March 23, 2017 Author Share Posted March 23, 2017 4 hours ago, UAZ-469 said: How about another version: Star Fox actually managed to beat Andross without Fox, but of course came to rescue him. Problem is, that Fox actually went insane, but somehow used the other dimension's weird physics to shape it to his liking - if he only didn't lose his mind. So his mates basically have to fight through a now mad man's world in the hopes to reach him. though my version of that dimension is different if not less dark, The background of the dimension looks the same as the snes version, with moons that have faces on them and cartoony stars, but here there is an endless collection of Super Mario Galaxy-esque planetoids (meaning you can traverse them by just jumping into the gravity field of another) scattered throughout as well as "shantytown" stations built from ships trapped in this dimension. The planetoids are all mostly barren desert or bare rock. both the planetoids and stations are littered with the lost souls of countless people trapped there along with fox (with a few glimpses of humans here and there). They wander about aimlessly in a delirious state. Insane in the sense that they're all eccentric and weird in personality. As part os the dimension's unnatural properties no one can die or get killed and you stop aging in the realm meaning everyone is literally invincible and immortal. In the background, there is a definite "plane" in the realm that shimmers like water, the border between that dimension and normal space that nobody in the dimension has successfully attempted to break through. Davy jones locker also had a paradise realm known as "Fiddler's green." It was this paradise realm where Sailors who served 50 years at sea went. The "Green" in this dimension is a lush green planetoid larger than all the others in the realm. on it is a tavern built from multiple spaceships where you can find the only "Sane" souls in the realm. Also only place where your delirium on the other planetoids disappears but everyone there is semi-drunk and a bit laid back, The water is perfectly drinkable and all manner of luscious fruit grow from the trees, While his friends are trying to find an alternative way into the dimension, When fox goes insane, here he begins to develop a personality similar to Captain Jack Sparrow and starts seeming multiple versions of himself (each being different versions of himself from different games), In a game sense, in this realm, it switches from aerial combat to roleplay/platform/adventure as Fox takes errands form various lost souls, many of which involve some exploration of the realm and some degree of adventuring just to pass the time being trapped here. mine is less dark but more darkly comedic in some sense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snys93 Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 10 hours ago, david201 said: though my version of that dimension is different if not less dark, The background of the dimension looks the same as the snes version, with moons that have faces on them and cartoony stars, but here there is an endless collection of Super Mario Galaxy-esque planetoids (meaning you can traverse them by just jumping into the gravity field of another) scattered throughout as well as "shantytown" stations built from ships trapped in this dimension. The planetoids are all mostly barren desert or bare rock. both the planetoids and stations are littered with the lost souls of countless people trapped there along with fox (with a few glimpses of humans here and there). They wander about aimlessly in a delirious state. Insane in the sense that they're all eccentric and weird in personality. As part os the dimension's unnatural properties no one can die or get killed and you stop aging in the realm meaning everyone is literally invincible and immortal. In the background, there is a definite "plane" in the realm that shimmers like water, the border between that dimension and normal space that nobody in the dimension has successfully attempted to break through. Davy jones locker also had a paradise realm known as "Fiddler's green." It was this paradise realm where Sailors who served 50 years at sea went. The "Green" in this dimension is a lush green planetoid larger than all the others in the realm. on it is a tavern built from multiple spaceships where you can find the only "Sane" souls in the realm. Also only place where your delirium on the other planetoids disappears but everyone there is semi-drunk and a bit laid back, The water is perfectly drinkable and all manner of luscious fruit grow from the trees, While his friends are trying to find an alternative way into the dimension, When fox goes insane, here he begins to develop a personality similar to Captain Jack Sparrow and starts seeming multiple versions of himself (each being different versions of himself from different games), In a game sense, in this realm, it switches from aerial combat to roleplay/platform/adventure as Fox takes errands form various lost souls, many of which involve some exploration of the realm and some degree of adventuring just to pass the time being trapped here. mine is less dark but more darkly comedic in some sense Like I said, I like this idea. Write a fanfic, plz ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david201 Posted March 24, 2017 Author Share Posted March 24, 2017 1 minute ago, Snes1993 said: Like I said, I like this idea. Write a fanfic, plz ? i'll just keep this as an idea, given my inexperience and lack of time for writing fanfics Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snys93 Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 Just now, david201 said: i'll just keep this as an idea, given my inexperience and lack of time for writing fanfics I do admit it will take some time, my fic is the some way. Stuck in limbo. Do you have any art concepts for Captain Fox Mcloud? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david201 Posted March 24, 2017 Author Share Posted March 24, 2017 7 minutes ago, Snes1993 said: I do admit it will take some time, my fic is the some way. Stuck in limbo. Do you have any art concepts for Captain Fox Mcloud? i am thinking about doing concepts for the ghosts ships, fox mccloud is still fox mccloud, btw this thread is related to the other thread regarding a hypothetical starfox zero sequel. though its interesting to incorporate spoopernatural shiz from nautical folklore into a sci fi environment like star fox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david201 Posted March 24, 2017 Author Share Posted March 24, 2017 to anyone who has played zero, has anyone ever noticed that on many of the cornerian or venomian capital ships, the bridge isn't centered? I mean the bridge is positioned slightly to the starboard side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MKGirlism Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 Screenshots, maybe? It's hard for me to tell, if I don't have a Wii U at hand, at the moment... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UAZ-469 Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 Yes, I did. And where's the problem with that? Star Wars does it too, sometimes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david201 Posted March 24, 2017 Author Share Posted March 24, 2017 29 minutes ago, UAZ-469 said: Yes, I did. And where's the problem with that? Star Wars does it too, sometimes. i keep thinking it references right hand side driving on cars Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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