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Yeah, 25, my bad.

I would think it would be hard to pull a character trend out of this series so early.  This is only the third game, not like the tenth or something.  Had there been more games before this one, a character trend would probably be a lot more obvious.

Also, weren't the secret characters revealed beforehand for Melee?  I had learned Falco was a confirmed character for Melee before its release, and he was a secret character.

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Yeah, 25, my bad.

I would think it would be hard to pull a character trend out of this series so early.  This is only the third game, not like the tenth or something.  Had there been more games before this one, a character trend would probably be a lot more obvious.

Also, weren't the secret characters revealed beforehand for Melee?  I had learned Falco was a confirmed character for Melee before its release, and he was a secret character.

I know for a fact that Nintendo itself didn't reveal the secret characters early, because I remember seeing the first "revealed" character several weeks after I had gotten it myself.

IGN didn't post the secret character list until about 6 days after the release of Melee in Japan, long enough for them and other players to find them all. (http://insider.ign.com/teasers/316/316486.html) Melee was released in Japan November 21st, 2001, so naturally, the secret characters were revealed on the internet around 6 days before it arrived in North America.

So, no, the secret characters weren't revealed beforehand, from what I can gather.

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Well, I'm alright with it. I get the sense that Ninty is going to balance out the roster as best they can with the different games. :( All I'm waiting for is the update with sommore Star Fox characters! :D Preferably Wolf over Krystal.

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I highly doubt that Krystal was the 2nd or 3rd more requested >.>, more like...80th , for what I know Wolf was even more requested than Krystal, but still, at least, she will get to be in as an Assist trophy xP. After all, with the delay, I'm sure Nintendo will put over 50 characters sooo, who knows, you guys could get lucky <<.

I've got the official list, as posted on the Japanese side of the Dojo before they switched to their current, update each weekday, structure. Keep in mind that this list does not contain characters that appeared in previous Smash games, nor did it apparently include Sonic. I'm not sure why, but assume that Sonic was the most requested character by far, for everyone else, this is the official list:

King Dedede(5) - Kirby's partly evil rival

*Diddy Kong(4) - Donkey Kong's buddy

Geno(4) - Puppet from Super Mario RPG

*Ike(4) - Good guy from Fire Emblem

Ridley(4) - Samus Aran's evil rival

Captain Olimar & Pikmin(3) - Main character in Pikmen and his followers

Krystal(3) - You know her

Takamaru(3) - Japan-only samurai character

Windwaker Link(3) - Young, cell-shaded Link

Animal Crossing MC(2) - The "you" in Animal Crossing games, I believe

Claus(2) - Earthbound 3 character

Demiru(2) - Character from a Japan only game.

Isaac(2) - The main character from Golden Sun.

Jeff(2) - Earthbound main character

Professor Kawashima(2) - The floating head in Brain Age games

King K. Rool(2) - Donkey Kong's villain

Lip(2) - Character from what would become Tetris Attack in America

*Lucas(2) - Earthbound character

Mega Man(2) - Robot boy who can take the powers of other robots, very popular

Oguma(2) - Fire Emblem character

Ouendan(2) - Characters from the game that would become Elite Beat Agents in America

Sukapon(2) - Good robot character from Japan only NES game

* = confirmed

As you can see, Krystal is in a four-way tie for 3rd place. She's the number one most requested female character by far.

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Dang, I'll eat my words there, I was talking with Zack (slippygoingno) when I posted that and he told me Krystal was around the 50th+ to nowhere. So basically, seeing how "supportive" this smash is being with SF, they should at least put krystal or wolf, maybe both; from my point of view,  I agree with Sol xP, preferably Wolf :(, but still Krystal fighting with a staff would be awesome too.

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Krystal WILL be in Brawl in some form (a role that involves speech at least).

http://gonintendo.com/?p=28085

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Lol her cameo apperance will be 1 second long as Krys says goodbye to fox as he goes to fight in brawl

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October 25--Characters--King Dedede

The THIRD Kirby series character to enter the fray.  Do you think they're going overboard?

First, Kirby series:

Zelda: 5

Mario: 5+Family Series

Kirby: ...3

Not at all. It's just one more than Star Fox since Melee. There will probably be lots of characters coming from a particular series now. Besides, everyone wanted MetaKnight in Melee and the people asked for Dedede. Of course, it's probably because they like Sakurai and want more of his creations in. :(

Second, Sonic:

I have nothing against Sonic being in Brawl. He fits in well with a plumber, an electric mouse, and some fox that stands upright with a gun. In Smash, scaling has affected every character. Kirby's official height is 8 inches, and how tall is he in Smash? About the same as everyone else. Bowser, from three times the size of Mario, shrunk... a lot. Link's sword is supposed to cut, which obviously isn't working. They're still going to make Sonic fast, just not unscaled to the point where it's pointless to play anyone else. "Nintendo-only" was 6 years ago. Deal with the change. I personally don't like it, but if they can make it look pretty and play well, then good. If it isn't, then that would be the big letdown. Eh, as long as no one says, "Sonic is BRAWL!!111eleven111 1'M N07 50NN4 3UY $M@$h 3R0z BCUZ H3'S A N00BZORS," I'll tolerate any hatred for the poor guy's inclusion. :D

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Why hate on Sonic? He's my absolute fav videogame character EVER. I am stoked he is in SSBB and I will buy it the minute it comes out, and more because he is in it.

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I have nothing against Sonic being in Brawl. He fits in well with a plumber, an electric mouse, and some fox that stands upright with a gun. In Smash, scaling has affected every character. Kirby's official height is 8 inches, and how tall is he in Smash? About the same as everyone else. Bowser, from three times the size of Mario, shrunk... a lot. Link's sword is supposed to cut, which obviously isn't working. They're still going to make Sonic fast, just not unscaled to the point where it's pointless to play anyone else. "Nintendo-only" was 6 years ago. Deal with the change. I personally don't like it, but if they can make it look pretty and play well, then good. If it isn't, then that would be the big letdown. Eh, as long as no one says, "Sonic is BRAWL!!111eleven111 1'M N07 50NN4 3UY $M@$h 3R0z BCUZ H3'S A N00BZORS," I'll tolerate any hatred for the poor guy's inclusion. :(

I hate no-one, especially not Sonic. However, I felt (not so much now) that he would be scaled beyond most recognition if included. To some extend, I was right. Nearly all of his moves involve him spinning, which makes up a pretty small part of his normal activities in games. However, that kind of scaling was the type of thing I didn't know if they could pull off. Obviously, they did, and I'm glad for that.

Secondly, "Nintendo-only" is there for a reason. Name one other company that's made more than one hundred games that has the persentage of quality games/characters as Nintendo. Most other companies can only claim two or three. Nintendo claims about 10. Sure, Sonic's great, but the reason people like me wanted to keep it Nintendo only was because if you include one third party character, what's stopping you from including any third party character? The standard is not as black and white as it was before. A slippery slope I fear.

Edit: As in the number of SERIES that are quality.

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Lol her cameo apperance will be 1 second long as Krys says goodbye to fox as he goes to fight in brawl

LMAO. If that were to happen, just imagine the sound of hundreds and hundreds of hearts snapping in half.

I generally am indifferent with Sonic being in Brawl. Hey, the more time they put into the game, the more epicness will overflow. I truly can't wait to get my hands on the Adventure Mode! Squee! :(

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Holy crap... Fox taking down a Rayquaza... That was freaking sweet. A Rayquaza is tied to have the second greatest stat base total in all of pokémon, only falling short of Arceus. It'll take more than a reflected dragon pulse back at it to put it down for good...

If my theory is correct... we just saw another boss, Rayquaza...

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Yeah, I saw Fox beat a Rayquaza, and I just sat here and thought "DAAAAAAANG."

But then again, in the world of Smash, Jigglypuff can beat Giga Bowser, so I guess it's not so surprising. :(

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Yeah, I saw Fox beat a Rayquaza, and I just sat here and thought "DAAAAAAANG."

But then again, in the world of Smash, Jigglypuff can beat Giga Bowser, so I guess it's not so surprising. ;)

You calling Jigglypuff weak?! :( Jig-glyyyyyy--- PUFF!!!

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*gets covered in black permanent marker*  ;)

I guess I stand corrected.  :(

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*gets covered in black permanent marker*  ;)

I guess I stand corrected.  :(

LOL! She should totally have a black marker Final Smash!

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In my usual geekery discussions with people (this time on Shoddy Battle, the pokémon battle simulator for the fourth gen) something interesting came up. Apparently in the next issue of Coro Coro (Japanse magazine that reveals al ot of pokémon stuff and generally a lot of other Nintendo stuff...) it is speculated that Brawl characters will be revealed. More specifically the starting line up. Take a look.

http://www.mother-jp.net/times/20071121.html

Translation:

http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=ja&u=http://www.mother-jp.net/times/20071121.html&sa=X&oi=translate&resnum=8&ct=result&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dwww.mother-jp.net/times/20071121.html%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DG

If we could get someone who knows a bit of Japanese to translate it without the google translation that'd be most wonderful.

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In my usual geekery discussions with people (this time on Shoddy Battle, the pokémon battle simulator for the fourth gen) something interesting came up. Apparently in the next issue of Coro Coro (Japanse magazine that reveals al ot of pokémon stuff and generally a lot of other Nintendo stuff...) it is speculated that Brawl characters will be revealed. More specifically the starting line up. Take a look, this has Fox on the cover; it could cause one to wonder who else might be shown... I believe it was said that on Dec. 15 this issue comes out.

http://www.gonintendo.com/?p=16206

If we could get someone who knows a bit of Japanese to translate that'd be most wonderful.

er....

That next issue you're referring to, it's May 2007. This news is from back in April.

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That's what happens when you type something up when you don't sleep, I'll fix it now...

Now its right.

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That's what happens when you type something up when you don't sleep, I'll fix it now...

Now its right.

Cool! (makes a post)

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...And to think, Super Smash Bros. Brawl was supposed to come out tomorrow...... but noooooooooooo. Instead they have to delay it just like EVERY OTHER FRICKIN GAME THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE A LAUNCH TITLE!!!!!!

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...And to think, Super Smash Bros. Brawl was supposed to come out tomorrow...... but noooooooooooo. Instead they have to delay it just like EVERY OTHER FRICKIN GAME THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE A LAUNCH TITLE!!!!!!

I'd rather wait. If its going to be more fine tuned... I'd be more than happy to wait another year for it to release. Besides its just a little over two months away, not long now...
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I'm freakin' DONE trying to make predictions. Nintendo goes to my sites and chooses to do something based on what I don't predict.

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