Guest Pyre Vulpimorph Posted May 27, 2007 Share Posted May 27, 2007 Ummm.... I don't think that has any male connotations, Chan, but Reinard was a fox character in some really old folk stories. The character was either male or female. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Four-eyed Vulpine Posted May 27, 2007 Share Posted May 27, 2007 Well, would you want both the male and female connotations of your species in your name? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Pyre Vulpimorph Posted May 27, 2007 Share Posted May 27, 2007 Uhh..... no. OKAY, back to plot development. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Four-eyed Vulpine Posted May 27, 2007 Share Posted May 27, 2007 See what I mean? ANYWAY, I am very curious as to Fox's role in the game. Will the end of this game mark the immediate beginning of the existing series? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Pyre Vulpimorph Posted May 27, 2007 Share Posted May 27, 2007 You mean James? Yeah, I think it should lead directly into SF64. Only James doesn't really die, but goes into self-exile for who-knows-why. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Four-eyed Vulpine Posted May 27, 2007 Share Posted May 27, 2007 No, I really meant his son, Fox. I didn't know if you had any role for him in the game or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Pyre Vulpimorph Posted May 27, 2007 Share Posted May 27, 2007 OH! *slaps himself* Fox shouldn't even be brought into the game until the last half... assuming the game is done RPG style like I want and is a 60+ hour game. His role? He's a little boy... Fox should be training with Bill Grey and getting into trouble with Falco at the street corners . Saving his mother from the evil postman.... :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chiro-Chan Posted May 28, 2007 Share Posted May 28, 2007 Ummm.... I don't think that has any male connotations, Chan, but Reinard was a fox character in some really old folk stories. The character was either male or female. Actually, it's the correct term for a male fox as well. I looked it up in the dictionary. =D Also: Why does James go into 'self-exile'? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Pyre Vulpimorph Posted May 28, 2007 Share Posted May 28, 2007 Why does James go into 'self-exile'? I'm guessing. Assuming James McCloud really is alive long after Pigma's betrayal even into SF: Command, and not ghost, there must be some reason why he refuses to reveal himself to Fox McCloud, Peppy Hare, General Pepper, and the Republic of Lylat in general. Fox only saw, or believes he saw, his father for one fleeting moment in SF64, and once in SF: Command. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranger One Posted June 1, 2007 Share Posted June 1, 2007 Got some nice ideas going here, but I just don't see a StarFox game that doesn't have you playing as Fox at all in it comming from Nintendo, it'd be like having a Zelda game which doesn't have you play as Link or a Mario game that has you play as someone else the whole time. I do see another option tho - flashbacks. Who's to say some old threat to the Lylat system, either another empire from a neighboring system or something else James and the old team dealt with, hasn't recovered and come back for vengance? Fox and Co. could be fighting against this menace, while at the same time Fox and Peppy (who'd remember this threat, and thus be a valuable source of information for his friends) end up revealing some of their memories about not only this event, but Fox's father as well. Heck, while we're at it, they could even tie in Krystals past in some way too - perhaps there could be some connection between her own past and the newest threat to the Lylat system. And assuming James DID go into self-exile, the storyline could explain that in some way as well. I'm thinking that you'd end up playing some missions in the present, doing some missions as James or Peppy in the past, and jump back and forth between the two as the storylines progressed - eventually, the two storylines could tie together, and then it'd just be missions in the present. For example, you do the first few missions as Fox, then the new baddies show up, and the team gets whipped by em (no casualties cause they retreat before it gets worse). After they limp back home, Fox could talk with Peppy for whatever reason (perhaps the invader(s) recognized Fox as James's son, or Peppy heard about it and wanted to talk with Fox.), and you fly a mission or two as Peppy during a flashback. Then you return to the present, and Fox and the team are called out on some emergency mission thats to hold the enemy back and buy the fleet time - after a few of these, another flashback, more missions as Peppy or even James this time, and then back to the present to continue the storyline there till the next one. True, having two plotlines to follow might be a bit more complicated, but it'd be a great way to reveal more about Fox's father, and create an intense plotline at the same time. As for how it all ties together... be creative, i'm sure someone can come up with a better idea than me, lol. :shock: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Pyre Vulpimorph Posted June 1, 2007 Share Posted June 1, 2007 I'm trying to ignore what Nintendo would or wouldn't do. None of this material will probably ever make it into a game. But I don't see why Nintendo can't back a Star Fox game that features James McCloud. ------------------- Oh, random thought: could mass riots be expected if Nintendo made a Star Fox game where the invading empire was a futuristic Earth? United Nations Star Command versus Cornerian Defense Force? :shock: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Four-eyed Vulpine Posted June 1, 2007 Share Posted June 1, 2007 Corneria could nuke the entire planet Earth with one hit. But that's beyond the scope of this thread. Back on track. I'm wondering how Nintendo would pull off a backward step in the storyline at this point. ALL of the games in the series have marched forward in time, and now that the timeline has ended, there's no more going forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Pyre Vulpimorph Posted June 1, 2007 Share Posted June 1, 2007 I don't see how a backward step in time would be difficult. Heck, you would HAVE to go back in time for new SF games with the storyline being "finished". A "Star Fox: Origins" game would be a good start, then go back to the "current generation" and start filling in plotholes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Four-eyed Vulpine Posted June 1, 2007 Share Posted June 1, 2007 I see where this is going. Go all the way back to the beginning AGAIN and make a progressive storyline that leads to the end once more, only this time filling in the gaps the last series left. It sounds like a good plan. The only issue is whether even more plotholes will be created or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chiro-Chan Posted June 1, 2007 Share Posted June 1, 2007 Maybe James went into 'self-exile' because he didn't trust Pepper or whatever. Hence why he's hiding out on Venom, and why Fox rarely ever sees him. Because James doesn't trust Pepper. I mean, he's either really dumb, or he's been trying to kill Fox by sending him on suicide missons. I mean, look at Adventures. Why would Pepper send Fox ALONE and UNARMED? 'Shoot first, ask later' my foot, I think Pepper has been trying to kill Fox. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aleks55 Posted June 1, 2007 Share Posted June 1, 2007 You can still have a Starfox game even without Fox. I mean starfox is the team name. And also for the guy who said a mario game without mario. Theres Luigi's Manshion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Star Fox Runner Posted June 2, 2007 Share Posted June 2, 2007 Why would Pepper send Fox ALONE and UNARMED? 'Shoot first, ask later' my foot, I think Pepper has been trying to kill Fox. Adventures was riddled with so many plot holes that you really can't back that statement up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chiro-Chan Posted June 2, 2007 Share Posted June 2, 2007 Adventures was riddled with so many plot holes that you really can't back that statement up. So? Think about it. And plus, who would send a couple of 16 year old kids, and one 37 year-old rabbit out to defeat a fricking huge army? It's a fricking conspiracy man! Okay, just a though. *looks around* :shock: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aleks55 Posted June 2, 2007 Share Posted June 2, 2007 Maybe General Pepper is trying to kill them. Or maybe he is stupid. But then again the starfox team is made of skilled piots. And in the Katina mission you get help from Cornerian Forces and Bill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Pyre Vulpimorph Posted June 2, 2007 Share Posted June 2, 2007 Maybe James went into 'self-exile' because he didn't trust Pepper or whatever. Hence why he's hiding out on Venom, and why Fox rarely ever sees him. Because James doesn't trust Pepper. I mean, he's either really dumb, or he's been trying to kill Fox by sending him on suicide missons. I mean, look at Adventures. Why would Pepper send Fox ALONE and UNARMED? 'Shoot first, ask later' my foot, I think Pepper has been trying to kill Fox. I think you're being a little hard on Pepper, there. I don't think General Pepper really had much choice in a lot of these situations. I think Pepper is a good military leader, but it's not like he wields absolute authority. He still has dumb politicians and incompetent field commanders to deal with. Besides, by the time Fox and his friends were sent to stop the Venomian onslaught, the Cornerian Defense Force had been largely obliterated. And probably some nutcase environmentalists told Pepper no one could bring energy weapons onto Sauria. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aleks55 Posted June 3, 2007 Share Posted June 3, 2007 Ya maybe I am a little hard on him,but still. He could have sended a little more help for the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chiro-Chan Posted June 3, 2007 Share Posted June 3, 2007 I think you're being a little hard on Pepper, there. I don't think General Pepper really had much choice in a lot of these situations. I think Pepper is a good military leader, but it's not like he wields absolute authority. He still has dumb politicians and incompetent field commanders to deal with. Besides, by the time Fox and his friends were sent to stop the Venomian onslaught, the Cornerian Defense Force had been largely obliterated. And probably some nutcase environmentalists told Pepper no one could bring energy weapons onto Sauria. Hm, yea. I guess I am, but that's probably because he annoys me so much in Adventures. But still, I doubt environmentalists had anything to do with the Sauria Incedent. I just really lost alot of trust in him a while ago for some odd and unexplaniable reason. I dunno, it just seems really weird that he'd send Fox ALONE and with no form of defense. I could understand if he sent him alone with a simple-ish weapon, like maybe a stick or a sword or whatever, but unarmed is really suspicious. I dunno, I'm probably just being weird again, but I'm still a little suspicious of the guy. = (plus I recall hearing somewhere that Corneria's government was communism, but it could have been wrong.) Though I'm probably just being stupid again. :evil: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aleks55 Posted June 3, 2007 Share Posted June 3, 2007 Ok now we are getting off the topic and getting into a new one. Now back to the main topic. They really should make a prequal on what really happened to James. I mean its not like he really died I mean how does he appear right when Fox needs help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Star Fox Runner Posted June 5, 2007 Share Posted June 5, 2007 Well, when they added Krystal, they put fantasy into the series, so maybe he came back from beyond the grave for some mystic reason, or maybe his spirit is stuck in the world of the living because he has lingering regrets that won't be fulfilled until he helps Fox, or something to that effect. If they did make an origins type of game, I think they should mix things up and make Vixy a team pilot up until the car bomb incident that was mentioned in the comic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Four-eyed Vulpine Posted June 5, 2007 Share Posted June 5, 2007 But are the comics even relevant anymore? They fit around the original SNES storyline, and since SF64 pretty much rewrote all canon, it wouldn't fit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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