ARWINGCOMMANDER 3987 Posted February 27, 2008 Share Posted February 27, 2008 I have issues with Star Fox being on that sort of programming block because Star Fox isn`t on the same level as Cowboy Bebop or Gundam Seed. Not all children`s action cartoons are sappy and cheesy. I remember there being one episode of The Transformers having a scene in the climax where Optimus Prime shot and killed several dozen Decepticon soldiers...in only a few seconds. Isn`t that how Star Fox`s on foot combat goes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drasiana Posted February 27, 2008 Share Posted February 27, 2008 Cute little furry animals getting shot and "OMG U KILLED MAH DADDY" (the plot would suffer horribly if he died by natural causes) don't quite fit the standards of today's censors. Really I'm not sure how Avatar gets away with all the death, but it's one in a million. Not even Adult Swim; Naruto sits right on the "cusp" (and don't bring your "OMG TEH DUB FAILS" rants into this, it isn't part of my point). It's on late and is more mature, but it isn't technically part of Adult Swim. So it's not really like blood and death everywhere but it isn't sunshine and butterflies either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Star Fox Runner Posted February 27, 2008 Share Posted February 27, 2008 I tell ya one thing, with the way the SF story line is going right now, if they were to make it into a movie or a series, they better fix the plot line and fast. I'd say that to make a decent story out of it for any of those things, they would need to delve into one or more of the characters' pasts and elaborate, then somehow make it work with the plotline. For example, either go with Krystal's past and the destruction of Cerinia, or Fox's past and his parents' deaths, or even do both and try and find a way to make them work together. There is one thing I believe hasn't been discussed in this whole spiel, who would be the antagonist of the books, movie, or series? Andross and the Venomians? General Scales and the Sharpclaws? Star Wolf? Oikonny and the Venomian Remnant? The Aparoids? The Anglars? Or maybe a new enemy all together? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drasiana Posted February 27, 2008 Share Posted February 27, 2008 Scales, Shears, the Anglar Emperor, the Aparoid Queen and Evil!Dash would be primary villains; the "evil guys". Andrew and Herbert would be semi-serious, though mostly comedic "baddies" who pop up every so often and can either help or hurt the heroes depending on the situation. Star Wolf would just be rivals. Not really evil, just mean. Pigma would be somewhere in between "evil guys" and "pseudo-villain". Octoman, Zako, and ZaZan would all be strictly comedy-relief villains. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PuffNStuff Posted February 27, 2008 Share Posted February 27, 2008 Krystal/Kursed would be the evil villan. That would be such a badass storyline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARWINGCOMMANDER 3987 Posted February 27, 2008 Share Posted February 27, 2008 Okay, so a Star Fox movie/animated series would be a bit more mature than what we've seen before in video game cartoons. Oh, and Avatar probably gets away with all it's death because the violence is pretend, and probably unrealistic. I don't know, because I've never seen that anti-Chinese/anti-Tibetan disaster Nickelodian calls an animated series!! As for the main villain, definitely Andross. Scales would command some of Andross's troops, the Apaorids would be separate, but very major villains. If they used the Kursed storyline, then that would probably go better as a nightmare sequence for Krystal and Fox. The dream would probably end up with from Fox's perspective; Kursed kills him, and from Krystal's perspective; Fox is a homicidal maniac who decapitates her. It then turns out that Andross is using their break up to his advantage, making them see all this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabre Posted February 27, 2008 Share Posted February 27, 2008 First, I want to know why everone keep mentioning space parachutes? I hate avatar, that was a really crap show amongst bad shows. I much more prefered him in knights of the old republic. Octoman waas F-Zero, not starfox. I think the villain should be a new guy, or anyone but andross. He's been resurected more times then jason and buffy put together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drasiana Posted February 28, 2008 Share Posted February 28, 2008 Octoman was a cameo in Command, like James is a cameo in the F-Zero games. So he's technically a Star Fox character too. Why does everyone hate Avatar that much? It wasn't THAT bad. Okay, so it has its cheesy bits, but it's way better than most of the other crap put out on children's television. I'm not a huge fan of it, but really people. Anyhow, personal preferance wasn't my point, I was saying how the show manages to have war, death, etc. in it despite being classified as children's programming. Yet somehow this exploded into a bunch of people moaning about how "avatar suxx!" Really? I don't care, it isn't an issue. Anyways, back on topic about villains; Star Fox definately seems to have issues with them. It seems hard to create one that isn't a massive army trying to take over Lylat...and all their names, with the exception of the SharpClaws, begin with "A"... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARWINGCOMMANDER 3987 Posted February 28, 2008 Share Posted February 28, 2008 What about some kind of giant planet eater, like Unicron or Galactus? It could be something like that that destroyed Cerinia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PuffNStuff Posted February 28, 2008 Share Posted February 28, 2008 ... Or we could not use ideas from transformers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARWINGCOMMANDER 3987 Posted February 28, 2008 Share Posted February 28, 2008 Maybe by "destroyed", they mean Cerinia still exists, but now it's a lifeless rock with no inhabitants. Oh, and most of the population was killed, with less than 30% escaping, but Krystal doesn't know that yet. She could find out with something crazy, like a mysterious pair keep following Krystal after seeing her, and learning who she is. When they're given the chance, they reveal themselves to be Cerinian just like she is. Krystal is overjoyed, and goes with them to a large space colony, which houses the remains of the population. Krystal's dream has come true, and she's finally able to see her mother and father again. They explain that they were forced to hide in the colony because Andross is trying to enslave into a dynasty similar to that of Ancient Egypt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabre Posted February 29, 2008 Share Posted February 29, 2008 Wait, egypt was/is a slave nation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DZComposer Posted February 29, 2008 Share Posted February 29, 2008 I've always thought that a prototype Gorgon unit (or Gorgon itself) destroyed Cerinia. Though I can't fully back it up canonically. But, we know Krystal recognized Andross in SFAd before she was captured. Plus, we know that the Gorgon could destroy a planet (SF64 Guide). It's a tidy little in-universe theory. Of course it requires much speculation, but I like it better than pulling something totally random out of thin-air. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drasiana Posted February 29, 2008 Share Posted February 29, 2008 Really, I don't think they gave Cerinia's destruction a second thought. All they decided was that it "got destroyed". Sure, Krystal "recognized" Andross (although she probably just realized it was him based on the explanations of the EarthWalker soldiers she talked to), but Fox also knew her name before she'd talked to him, everyone knew Fox's name, etc. etc. Adventures was full of more holes than swiss cheese. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabre Posted February 29, 2008 Share Posted February 29, 2008 Yeah, I think the reason there are many mistakes is due to the last minute adition of fox. The reason he couldn't take blasters is unbaleivably feeble, also the way you never get to fight scales, and the resurection of andross... But I'm going off topic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARWINGCOMMANDER 3987 Posted February 29, 2008 Share Posted February 29, 2008 Wait, egypt was/is a slave nation? It used to be 1000s of years ago. Didn't you ever read history books? Also, who's Gorgon? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chiro-Chan Posted February 29, 2008 Share Posted February 29, 2008 The Gorgon was the boss in Area 6 in Star Fox 64. I don't really think Cerinia itself was destroyed, personally, but... Yea, we're getting off topic here. xD;;; Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabre Posted February 29, 2008 Share Posted February 29, 2008 I thought Egypt was a worker based socitiy. I know they got huge work gangs to build the pyramids. Area 6? Was that the space station level? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
absoludicrous91 Posted February 29, 2008 Share Posted February 29, 2008 I thought Egypt was a worker based socitiy. I know they got huge work gangs to build the pyramids. The Book of Exodus, my friend. Wow, that sounded way more religious than intended. *slaps self for managing to make a post that, by being both off-topic and religious, breaks two rules* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARWINGCOMMANDER 3987 Posted February 29, 2008 Share Posted February 29, 2008 Area 6 was Venom's defense armada in Star Fox 64. Oh, and I don't know if Gorgon would be big enough to destroy a planet, but if it is, and since it was one of Andross's old weapons, and if it was as big as Unicron, Galactus, or the Death Star, then yeah, Gorgon's the culprit. Hey! I think I know the sort of musical score a Star Fox anime would need. One like that of Robotech. I've never seen any of the Robotech television shows or movies, but I watched the original 1985 intro on Youtube, and the music blew my mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drasiana Posted March 1, 2008 Share Posted March 1, 2008 Let me ask you guys, as off-topic as it is, WHY Andross would POSSIBLY want to destroy a planet that's been hinted at not even being in Lylat? Anyhow. A Star Fox anime should have a soundtrack that's a mix between epic orchestrated pieces and rock (the Great Fox Rock from ADV, anyone?). NO J-POP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PuffNStuff Posted March 1, 2008 Share Posted March 1, 2008 Just one of those "I wanna destroy a planet... Gimme that dart!" *Throws the dart at a map* "Cerinia it is! Arm the Chuck Norris Fist Propulshion Device! (CNFPD) ((patent pending))!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARWINGCOMMANDER 3987 Posted March 2, 2008 Share Posted March 2, 2008 Let's just hope it doesn't end up as Star Fox meets Space Balls. Andross probably didn't completely destroy Cerinia, but rather he tore the place apart to use it's natural resources to power his own army. The population fights back, but most of them are wiped out. That's kinda similar to the plot of Biker Mice from Mars. I don't think a Star Fox movie should be an anime film, because....look at what became of the Pokemon movies outside of Japan. Each of the first 4 films earned less and less in the American box office, until the rest of the movies were only released theatrically in Japan, and to the American direct-to-video market. Another problem I know of in anime movies is Yu-Gi-Oh!: The Movie. It did horrible in the box office, but something tells me it did way better overseas. There could be a Star Fox anime movie, but they'd really have to get it some good enough advertisement and hype so it doesn't flop like the Yu-Gi-Oh! The only anime I've heard of that was only a movie is Akira. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
absoludicrous91 Posted March 2, 2008 Share Posted March 2, 2008 What about The only anime I've heard of that was only a movie is Akira. What about Studio Ghibli? Don't you know who they are? They've produced countless anime films that were commercial as well as critical successes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARWINGCOMMANDER 3987 Posted March 2, 2008 Share Posted March 2, 2008 Yeah, but were any of them that successful in the US market? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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