Zwolf Posted April 6, 2009 Share Posted April 6, 2009 For any and all debates about possible explanations for plot holes, or anything else you'd like to discuss. Please DON'T attack someone personally. In a debate, you are argueing with the FACTS provided, not the person persenting them. As for topics, we could make some rules later on. Like the max amount of posts per topic, or something. If you have a new topic to discuss, please wait a little bit after the current topic has died down. Keep this in mind, this isn't philosophy, which means don't just post what you THINK. Bring some actual facts or examples with your claim. Have fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Julius Quasar Posted April 7, 2009 Share Posted April 7, 2009 Well, in SF64, Andross had these deadly super-ships in Sector Y, and that huge mecha-warrior "Shogun"..... Why doesn't he send them or the Zeram Class Cruisers in Area 6, to invade Corneria? Also: Do you think James should be alive, or should he be "dead", but come back as a "Deus Ex Machina" element to help Fox when needed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Krystal Posted April 7, 2009 Share Posted April 7, 2009 I thought it would be cool if James faked his death, which is an element I'm using in my fanfiction. In which case, he keeps his eye on things, and helps out when there's a dire need, but otherwise, he has some yet unmentioned evil to fight that no-one else knows about occupying his time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falcory Posted April 7, 2009 Share Posted April 7, 2009 I thought it would be cool if James faked his death, which is an element I'm using in my fanfiction. In which case, he keeps his eye on things, and helps out when there's a dire need, but otherwise, he has some yet unmentioned evil to fight that no-one else knows about occupying his time. That's a cool thought... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kursed Posted April 7, 2009 Share Posted April 7, 2009 That's a cool thought... Very. I'm very Sure Krystal would Like to meet james. And I'll bring this up to the plate... Krystal's staff is NOT Magic Starfox is Sci-fi not harry potter or Eragon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zwolf Posted April 7, 2009 Author Share Posted April 7, 2009 I came across something unsettling while I was writing. We can all agree that Adventures happened 8 years AFTER SF: 64, right? Then why, does the "Farewell, Beloved Falco" comic happen 4 years after SF: 64? And lead RIGHT into Adventures? Either I'm completely missing something, or I'm assuming that one of these sources is canon, and the other had a bad translation. I already know that the Japanese version and American version had different ages. (i.e. Krystal was 16 in Japan, but 19 in the US) It's a fact that Fox is 18 in SF: 64, right? That makes him 22 in the comic, but 26 in the actual game, that supposedly happened RIGHT after the comic. I don't know what to think, but personally, I hope it is only a 4 year difference between games, because then Fox and Krystal would only be 3 years apart, which makes more sense than 7. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest RedPhoenix32 Posted April 7, 2009 Share Posted April 7, 2009 Its not magic. Its QUANTUM PHYSICS!!! lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falcory Posted April 7, 2009 Share Posted April 7, 2009 Agreed. Not magic. I came across something unsettling while I was writing. We can all agree that Adventures happened 8 years AFTER SF: 64, right? Then why, does the "Farewell, Beloved Falco" comic happen 4 years after SF: 64? And lead RIGHT into Adventures? Either I'm completely missing something, or I'm assuming that one of these sources is canon, and the other had a bad translation. I already know that the Japanese version and American version had different ages. (i.e. Krystal was 16 in Japan, but 19 in the US) It's a fact that Fox is 18 in SF: 64, right? That makes him 22 in the comic, but 26 in the actual game, that supposedly happened RIGHT after the comic. I don't know what to think, but personally, I hope it is only a 4 year difference between games, because then Fox and Krystal would only be 3 years apart, which makes more sense than 7. Read the comic again. You'll see that after Falco says he's going to take a break, a caption says "Four Years Later". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falcory Posted April 7, 2009 Share Posted April 7, 2009 That idea about James is interesting, Mr. Krystal. i like it, it has potential. Personally though, I think he lives on as a spirit , though dead physically. *creepy music* Or maybe he's a ZOMBIE!!! James: "BRAAAAIIIINNNSSS....." Anyway, how about Falco and Katt? Does he like her, hate her, or what? Too many mixed signals in 64. And no idea about Command. And a lot of other stuff that i thought up, but I can't remember it. Falco loves Katt. That much is obvious. He's just too much of a tough guy to admit it. Read Farewell Beloved Falco and you'll see that both of them like each other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Julius Quasar Posted April 7, 2009 Share Posted April 7, 2009 I thought it would be cool if James faked his death, which is an element I'm using in my fanfiction. In which case, he keeps his eye on things, and helps out when there's a dire need, but otherwise, he has some yet unmentioned evil to fight that no-one else knows about occupying his time. Cool! ...I thought the same thing, but many people didn't believe me, but w/e (to each his own...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falcory Posted April 7, 2009 Share Posted April 7, 2009 Yeah, that's what I was leaning towards. xD Mostly I was thinking about the scene where they are talking under the moonlight in Farewell Beloved Falco and in 64 when he says, "...Katt? Where'd ya go?" Plus, I wonder if Wolf will ever get a girlfriend! xD For Pete's sake, he's in his 30s and has always been single as far as I know. Maybe I should create an OC for that sole purpose...or maybe he just prefers being a bachelor. I think I'll start a thread about pairings though since it really isn't on topic in here. : Meh, I'm being random. not feeling very argumentative. Anybody got an idea? Just wait a while, and somebody will think of something. And as for the girlfriend for Wolf thing, I notice an odd amount of WolfXLucy fanart all over the place. What's up with that exactly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest RedPhoenix32 Posted April 7, 2009 Share Posted April 7, 2009 LucyXWolf is unknown territory for me. I never seen anything like that. I think he'd be much sutied for... Absolutely no one. He's his own breed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falcory Posted April 7, 2009 Share Posted April 7, 2009 LucyXWolf is unknown territory for me. I never seen anything like that. I think he'd be much sutied for... Absolutely no one. He's his own breed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zwolf Posted April 7, 2009 Author Share Posted April 7, 2009 Read the comic again. You'll see that after Falco says he's going to take a break, a caption says "Four Years Later". Did I seriously miss that?... Haha... That's for the clarification... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest RedPhoenix32 Posted April 7, 2009 Share Posted April 7, 2009 Yeah, I still dont see that happening. Fay, maybe. Lucy, no chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falcory Posted April 7, 2009 Share Posted April 7, 2009 Fay? Really?? Frankly, I think Bill would pair better with Fay. *holds onto last smidgen of hope* It would be epic though! Yeah I see Fay with Bill more than Wolf. Lucy might like Wolf. We haven't seen enough of her character to tell though. She IS a tomboy however as I may point out... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndf Posted April 7, 2009 Share Posted April 7, 2009 I can't see Wolf with anyone. He's a lonah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest RedPhoenix32 Posted April 8, 2009 Share Posted April 8, 2009 Im with Pig-Kay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WolfBoy100 Posted April 8, 2009 Share Posted April 8, 2009 That's new to me...seeing WolfxLucy but I am seeing a LOT of WolfxFox and I was like..."whoa. what's the heck?" but then I don't think it'll happen XD except...>_> *ahem* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chiro-Chan Posted April 8, 2009 Share Posted April 8, 2009 1. I have always thought James was alive, personally, and is out fending off evil, much like Mr. K said. Another thought that I like is that he is neither dead, nor alive. Not like 'LOL ZOMBIE', but like, he's between being a ghost and a living person. I dunno how to explain it. DX 2. Krystal's staff is magic. I don't see Star Fox as purely sci-fi, and I rather like the idea of it being a mix of sci-fi and fantasy, it makes it more fun, and opens up all sorts of new possibilities. 3. I'm not a fan of Wolf+Lucy. I can't see how that'd work at all, and in general, I don't think Wolf needs a girlfriend, unless the relationship is one sided, and the chick is big, masculine, and absolutely horrifying. xD (the one-sidedness being the chick liking Wolf, and he's like 'um help D=' ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Julius Quasar Posted April 8, 2009 Share Posted April 8, 2009 Falcory, catwings30, those are GREAT drawings! I don't see Wolf with a lover anyways, at least nothing serious (though he's not as lothario-like as Panther) anyways, I wonder...in SF-Assault, WHO hired Pigma to steal that Aparoid Core Memory? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilwaffles Posted April 8, 2009 Share Posted April 8, 2009 What the... Lucy and Wolf!? Another reason why I don't consider Command canon to the series. Wolf having a love interest is too far from his image in my eyes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falcory Posted April 8, 2009 Share Posted April 8, 2009 What the... Lucy and Wolf!? Another reason why I don't consider Command canon to the series. Wolf having a love interest is too far from his image in my eyes. Ummm Waffles, she never even met Wolf in Command. We're just speculating... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zwolf Posted April 8, 2009 Author Share Posted April 8, 2009 What would a cross hybridization between a wolf and a rabbit look like...? Scary thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zwolf Posted April 9, 2009 Author Share Posted April 9, 2009 Back to ze debate. Mmm... Next person to post just pick your favorite from the list. 1) Command ending. Which one is canon and why? 2) How the %#&@ did Sauria and Fichina randomly join into the Lylat system? Don't just say "Oh, basic game mechanics, they needed Sauria 'cuz it was an already finished game and they pushed Star Fox into it, blah, blah, blah..." 3) Any other plot hole you want to talk about. 4) Slippy. Guy, girl? Something else? (Comedic relief) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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