Kursed Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 Quote Hmm... I thought it was because the matter transporter was one of the things they needed to get fixed. That's what i thought too I mean after adventures Fox uses the money to fix things and upgrade the landmasters and arwings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndf Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 Quote Hmm... I thought it was because the matter transporter was one of the things they needed to get fixed. Yeh, probably. But, to me, it doesn't look like he's transporting in that cut scene. Quote As for invisibility, I'm sure Fox could have some heat-seating goggles or something like that. I don't have proof of this, but I'm just saying that it's pretty likely. Even if he did, that doesn't rule out the possibility that it's an invisibility device. Fox didn't have time to check because the Sharpclaw were escaping with the spellstone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raphaeltmnt Posted April 28, 2009 Share Posted April 28, 2009 Do any of you think Falco could beat Andross alone, using his airwing? :krystal: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falcory Posted April 28, 2009 Share Posted April 28, 2009 Quote Do any of you think Falco could beat Andross alone, using his airwing? Fox has done it alone in his Arwing. Falco is supposed to be the best pilot on the team since he's the Ace. So I'm going with: HECK YEAH! :krystal: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARWINGCOMMANDER 3987 Posted April 28, 2009 Share Posted April 28, 2009 I know Fox is better than Wolf in a dogfight, but who would win in a gunfight, Fox or Wolf? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falcory Posted April 28, 2009 Share Posted April 28, 2009 Quote I know Fox is better than Wolf in a dogfight, but who would win in a gunfight, Fox or Wolf? Actually, I think both of them are equal in both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falcory Posted June 18, 2009 Share Posted June 18, 2009 New topic: Krystal's staff. Magic or Tech? I'm going with Tech. Krystal herself never stated in Adventures that it was magic, nor does anything Krystal says or does state that she uses magic. Quote You guys need sources for your beliefs. As it is, Krystal's staff is magic because it says it is in the SFAd instruction manual. Believe what you will, but what you believe isn't official. Before you bring this up Mister K, the Instruction Booklet says that Krystal's staff is MAGICAL. This does not mean it's magic however. One of the dictionary definitions of Magical is: Producing the effects of magic;LIKE magic. So when you see things like Fox's scans of the staff, (A weapon of magical energy) it does not necessarily mean that the Staff is magic itself. It could just have an unexplainable energy source, like some things in real life do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zwolf Posted June 18, 2009 Author Share Posted June 18, 2009 A weapon containing "magical energy". <-- Canon definition of the Staff according to the SFAD instruction booklet. Magical, as defined by the dictionary, has multiple definitions. 1) Of or relating to magic 2) Magic, sometimes known as sorcery, is a conceptual system that asserts human ability to control the natural world (including events, objects, people, and physical phenomena) through mystical, paranormal or supernatural means. 3) Magic - any art that invokes supernatural powers "Magical" does not mean "unexplainable". ^^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falcory Posted June 18, 2009 Share Posted June 18, 2009 Quote "Magical" does not mean "unexplainable". ^^ I didn't say magical meant that. I said that the staff could have an unexplainable energy source. BTW I also said: Quote One of the dictionary definitions of Magical is: Producing the effects of magic;LIKE magic. Producing effects LIKE magic is NOT magic, but APPEARS to be. Example: Putting blanks in a gun will give the EFFECT of gunfire. This is not to say that the staff COULD be magic, be it possibly MIGHT not be magic either. Like I said earlier, Krystal herself has not shown herself to use magic so I'm inclined to believe that the Staff is tech. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asper Sarnoff Posted June 18, 2009 Share Posted June 18, 2009 Quote I know Fox is better than Wolf in a dogfight, but who would win in a gunfight, Fox or Wolf? I think Wolf has more experience, on the other hand, he is a lot bigger target. Pretty equal there. But if it ever came to hand to hand combat between them (not counting SSBB here) I think Wolf would have made mincemeat out of Fox. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zwolf Posted June 18, 2009 Author Share Posted June 18, 2009 Your own quote doesn't make sense. Quote One of the dictionary definitions of Magical is: Producing the effects of magic;LIKE magic. Producing the effects of magic. Not... Quote Producing effects LIKE magic is NOT magic, but APPEARS to be. Quote Like I said earlier, Krystal herself has not shown herself to use magic so I'm inclined to believe that the Staff is tech. People have to be magic to use magic weapons? Regardless, we aren't questioning if Krystal can do magic. We're debating if the Staff is magic or tech. The canon definition is "Staff of magical energy". The preposition "of" means containing or pertaining to. The Staff has magical energy. Magical implies magic. MAGIC! Uh... Asper? Can we stay on topic a little bit please? :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kursed Posted June 18, 2009 Share Posted June 18, 2009 it's got to be Tech. The Arwings are probably magic to the Saurians anyway so are you going to say that the Arwings are Sorcery? If we go back in time with the stuff we have today those people would consider us Sorcerers because of our advanced technology same goes with Krystal's staff it could be Considered magic ,but By Cerinians it's known to be Technology. And yes Most MAgicians are Magic to use magic... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zwolf Posted June 18, 2009 Author Share Posted June 18, 2009 Define "Tech" for me, would you? Quote The Arwings are probably magic to the Saurians anyway so are you going to say that the Arwings are Sorcery? That's a matter of perspective. What do the Arwings run off of? Magic? No... Fuel Cells, which isn't powered by MAGICAL energy, even if the Saurians don't know what it is, that doesn't automatically make it magic. Quote If we go back in time with the stuff we have today those people would consider us Sorcerers because of our advanced technology Ah ha! Keyword "consider". I consider Star Fox to be the BEST game in the universe. Does that make it the best game in the universe? I think so, but that doesn't automatically MAKE it so. Quote same goes with Krystal's staff it could be Considered magic ,but By Cerinians it's known to be Technology. Proof that Cerinia was more advanced technologically? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falcory Posted June 18, 2009 Share Posted June 18, 2009 Quote Producing the effects of magic. Not... ....What? Quote People have to be magic to use magic weapons? Regardless, we aren't questioning if Krystal can do magic. We're debating if the Staff is magic or tech. The canon definition is "Staff of magical energy". The preposition "of" means containing or pertaining to. The Staff has magical energy. Magical implies magic. MAGIC! No. You're missing the point. Lets say the staff IS magic. Then that means it must have been created by somebody that USED magic. Krystal does not seem to exibit any signs of practicing magic, therefore it's unlikely that Cerinian's can use magic, therefore meaning that most likely the staff was not created with magic. Get it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kursed Posted June 18, 2009 Share Posted June 18, 2009 Quote Define "Tech" for me, would you? the branch of knowledge that deals with the creation and use of technical means and their interrelation with life, society, and the environment, drawing upon such subjects as industrial arts, engineering, applied science, and pure science.-quoted from Dictionary.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zwolf Posted June 18, 2009 Author Share Posted June 18, 2009 Quote the branch of knowledge that deals with the creation and use of technical means and their interrelation with life, society, and the environment, drawing upon such subjects as industrial arts, engineering, applied science, and pure science.-quoted from Dictionary.com ASSUMING the Staff is just technology, what powers it? Quote Krystal does not seem to exhibit any signs of practicing magic, therefore it's unlikely that Cerinian's can use magic, therefore meaning that most likely the staff was not created with magic. Really? If ONE person can't do it, no one on the entire planet can? ^^ Check edit of last post, btw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kursed Posted June 18, 2009 Share Posted June 18, 2009 Quote ASSUMING the Staff is just technology, what powers it? Krystals telepathic energy and the Saurian orbs (specific Fruits.) If the protoss can use their Psionic energy to form blades like http://starcraft2.com/features/protoss/zealot.xml like the zealot or control their new mechanical bodies through their own minds like the Immortal or stalker Krystal can use her energy to power her staff. perhaps there's a type of Focusing matter in her staff that absorbs energy and not just the Saurian orb fruits Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zwolf Posted June 18, 2009 Author Share Posted June 18, 2009 Okay. Problem. Quote Krystals telepathic energy and the Saurian orbs (specific Fruits.) If the protoss can use their Psionic energy to form blades like http://starcraft2.com/features/protoss/zealot.xml like the zealot or control their new mechanical bodies through their own minds like the Immortal or stalker Krystal can use her energy to power her staff. perhaps there's a type of Focusing matter in her staff that absorbs energy and not just the Saurian orb fruits Krystal has telepathic energy? Define a "Telepath" for me. And, who makes StarCraft? Blizzard does. Did Blizzard make SF AD? No. Did Blizzard help with any of the Nintendo's stuff? No again. Truth in one game does not apply to all games. Unlike StarCraft, Star Fox IS NOT SCI-FI. It's considered Fantasy. Sci-fi is completely different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunderstar Posted June 18, 2009 Share Posted June 18, 2009 Here, this can do the trick, Quote Its not magic. Its QUANTUM PHYSICS!!! lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falcory Posted June 18, 2009 Share Posted June 18, 2009 Quote Really? If ONE person can't do it, no one on the entire planet can? ^^ I said it was UNLIKELY. Krystal's staff may be powered by different energy, not by just a specific thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Julius Quasar Posted June 18, 2009 Share Posted June 18, 2009 Star Fox Adventures: Tricky's dad is the gatekeeper for Spellstone #3, yet "...He knew the Sharpclaw would come for him, so he hid his gatekeeper powers" behind this sacred seal!".... so how the heck did the Sharpclaw get the 3rd Spellstone anyway? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zwolf Posted June 18, 2009 Author Share Posted June 18, 2009 Quote Star Fox Adventures: Tricky's dad is the gatekeeper for Spellstone #3, yet he "...knew the Sharpclaw would come for him, so he hid his gatekeeper powers" behind this sacred seal".... so how the heck did the Sharpclaw get the 3rd Spellstone anyway? WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SOMETHING! LOL! Gawd. XD (Don't take that seriously) Quote Krystal's staff may be powered by different energy, not by just a specific thing. Like? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Julius Quasar Posted June 18, 2009 Share Posted June 18, 2009 Quote For any and all debates about possible explanations for plot holes, or anything else you'd like to discuss. Please DON'T attack someone personally. In a debate, you are argueing with the FACTS provided, not the person persenting them. As for topics, we could make some rules later on. Like the max amount of posts per topic, or something. If you have a new topic to discuss, please wait a little bit after the current topic has died down. Keep this in mind, this isn't philosophy, which means don't just post what you THINK. Bring some actual facts or examples with your claim. Have fun. *clears throat* ^ Quote WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SOMETHING! LOL! Gawd. XD (Don't take that seriously) Like? I was technically on topic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunderstar Posted June 18, 2009 Share Posted June 18, 2009 Quote WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SOMETHING! LOL! Gawd. XD (Don't take that seriously) Like? Aurora? Quote *clears throat* ^ I was technically on topic Sorry.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Julius Quasar Posted June 18, 2009 Share Posted June 18, 2009 Quote Sorry.... don't apologize, you did nothing wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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