Sabre Posted April 15, 2009 Share Posted April 15, 2009 Krystal telepathy. How good is it? It seems she can't directly read anyones thought, but rather just sence emotions, which seems pretty useless. Given the I never 100%-ed command, I might be missing something. Thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilwaffles Posted April 15, 2009 Share Posted April 15, 2009 I myself believe she can read thoughts but respects people's privacy. Do not worry about 100%'n Command, it is the same game that had Panther talking in third person, a boss saying humans instead of Cornerians and Panther X Krystal . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARWINGCOMMANDER 3987 Posted April 15, 2009 Share Posted April 15, 2009 I bet her telepathy is very good like Waffles said, but she does respect people's privacy. I think she might be able to levitate too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilwaffles Posted April 15, 2009 Share Posted April 15, 2009 I think she might be able to levitate too. Don't push our luck :evil: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kursed Posted April 15, 2009 Share Posted April 15, 2009 I bet her telepathy is very good like Waffles said, but she does respect people's privacy. I think she might be able to levitate too. That's kinda going into telekinisis I think her powers enable her to do alot like sense imminent danger sense people near by and possibly tell who they are by their  'aura' (So something like Lucarios Aura sphere might throw her off a bit) so in a way she has a form of precognition  but only seconds because she's simply reading the thoughts of a person in order to predict their movments. with enough consentration she might be able to  'dive' into someones mind to read their deepest thoughts possibly somthing similair to  the vulcan mind meld. and Of course I'm sure in everyday life she respects peoples Privacy now that she lives within a community of non-telepaths. If you've read my "Ruins of Cerinia fan-fic you see how this telepathy could possibly work with Cerinian technology. and as far as he staff I don't think it's magic i think it's simply very advanced technology the staff simply absorbs many forms of energy (obvoiusly excluding Solar energy) so maybe when she has it it drawls it's energy from her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Krystal Posted April 15, 2009 Share Posted April 15, 2009 So far, she's shown herself to be an empath and a telepath. Empaths are useful, because they can tell people's intentions. Telepaths are useful because they can sense possible dangers ahead of time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Julius Quasar Posted April 15, 2009 Share Posted April 15, 2009 So far, she's shown herself to be an empath and a telepath. Empaths are useful, because they can tell people's intentions. Telepaths are useful because they can sense possible dangers ahead of time. I agree there, Krystal seems to be both, in SF Adventures, she talks to Fox telepathically, and in SF Assault, she says she senses brain patterns. In SF Assault, her position on the team is described as "Telepath". I'd say Krystal is 50% Telepath, 50% Empath. Her powers are probably still developing, as she is still young. But she also respects the private thoughts of others, which is cool. I dunno the official canon of her powers exactly. :evil: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabre Posted April 15, 2009 Author Share Posted April 15, 2009 But if she can sense intent, why the whole leaving fox thing, or pigmas plan in assault? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kursed Posted April 15, 2009 Share Posted April 15, 2009 But if she can sense intent, why the whole leaving fox thing, or pigmas plan in assault? The leaving fox thing well when your angry you don't really focus on your powers alot. and the pigma's plan in assault well he simply could have been out of range. I agree there, Krystal seems to be both, in SF Adventures, she talks to Fox telepathically, and in SF Assault, she says she senses brain patterns. In SF Assault, her position on the team is described as "Telepath". I'd say Krystal is 50% Telepath, 50% Empath. Her powers are probably still developing, as she is still young. But she also respects the private thoughts of others, which is cool. I dunno the official canon of her powers exactly. uhh as far as i've seen julius Empath is like a lower level of Telapath Krystal is clearly a Telepath. I think The level from greatest power to least is in this order Psychic,Telepath,Empath. Now this is not saying that any empath can advance to telepath and then Psychic no. Some can only be Empaths and some can only be telepaths and so on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samantha Weltzin Posted April 15, 2009 Share Posted April 15, 2009 Just so we're clear, empath, telepath, and psychic are three different things. Perhaps they're levels, as Kursed said, but they have different functions for each. Empath is someone who has the ability to sense emotions. That doesn't mean motivations, as that comes with telepathy. It's just emotions. The complexity of the emotions and the extent of the ability to sense emotions is in question, of course, but empathy actually exists in reality and isn't supernatural. The show "Lie to Me" has a good example of a very well-trained empath. Telepathy is where we start to get supernatural, and that's where Krystal's powers lie. It's the ability to tell what a person's thinking and/or to transmit your thoughts to others, both of which Krystal can obviously do. I think the reason she couldn't tell -exactly- what the Aparoids were thinking was because their minds were so alien and unknowable. Think about if you tried to make mental contact with Cthulhu or something, only to a less-damaging extent. Remember that she said, "Look out! The enemy's waiting for us!" in reference to Andrew's army behind that door, which indicates that she could actually tell what they were thinking. As such, I'd put her telepathic abilities at being able to detect surface thoughts, but not transcend the language barrier. Now, a psychic is someone who can tell past and future events with varying degrees of clarity. Krystal obviously can't do that, so I'd place her as a moderately good telepath. As for the "minding others' privacy" thing, it's entirely possible, though not just for reasons of politeness. If you knew everyone's thoughts at any given time, it would literally drive her insane. So many voices all at once, even if they were just close in proximity, would cause information overload and leave her a gibbering, drooling wreck on the ground. So yes, I think there's good evidence she has not only the ability to turn it "off" and "on" and selectively use it, but she also has good reason to do so. Minor tangent on that last point: I've tried explaining her rude reaction to Fox in Adventures after he saves her based on this "telepathy" thing by saying that perhaps she made contact with Andross's mind and it drove her temporarily mad. No real proof for it, of course, but I like to think that's what happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falcory Posted April 15, 2009 Share Posted April 15, 2009 Now, a psychic is someone who can tell past and future events with varying degrees of clarity. Krystal obviously can't do that, so I'd place her as a moderately good telepath. You were right on the other ones, but wrong on this one. Someone psychic has now been recognized as someone with telepathy. Krystal can obviously read minds. She states on the Aparoid homeworld that eveybody's warm thoughts and feelings kept her safe. She also senses distress calls which requires telepathy as well. As for Krystal teleporting, levitating, telekinesis (Pretty much the same thing as levitating.) and being able to cast illusions, are NOT any powers she has shown. I don't believe Nintendo plans to do something like this either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabre Posted April 15, 2009 Author Share Posted April 15, 2009 *golfclaps Fantastic post Samantha. However, it seems for every use of the power is tumped where it would be obvious to use and/or extremely usful, but she doesn't. Given the scale, I think her powers are of empath ability unless it's conveiant to push the plot forward. Much like action heroes running out of ammo. Her powers also don't seem very acurate either, even life dection seems very vauge. Personally, I'm sticking to the usless empath idea for her powers, now with added rough life detection. Another thing I wonder, would it be affected by 'weak minded' people, like jedis are? Also how would it react to low life, like moths? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falcory Posted April 15, 2009 Share Posted April 15, 2009 *golfclaps Another thing I wonder, would it be affected by 'weak minded' people, like jedis are? Also how would it react to low life, like moths? I actually expressed my oppinion on that in my Fan fic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kursed Posted April 15, 2009 Share Posted April 15, 2009 You were right on the other ones, but wrong on this one. Someone psychic has now been recognized as someone with telepathy. Krystal can obviously read minds. She states on the Aparoid homeworld that eveybody's warm thoughts and feelings kept her safe. She also senses distress calls which requires telepathy as well. As for Krystal teleporting, levitating, telekinesis (Pretty much the same thing as levitating.) and being able to cast illusions, are NOT any powers she has shown. I don't believe Nintendo plans to do something like this either. being a psychic includes telepathy as Telepathy includes Empathy. Psychic's powers include that of a telepath and Telekinisis similair to Ness. ,but as far as we've seen and I'm pretty much sure on this Krystal is a Telepath there for she is a Empath and more ,but she is not a psychic. and as far as her not being able to show she's a telepath well blame nintendo for not showing her true potential. Krystal might be able to use the 'jedi mind trick' to a certain extend,but at this point it has not been proven she can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samantha Weltzin Posted April 16, 2009 Share Posted April 16, 2009 You were right on the other ones, but wrong on this one. Someone psychic has now been recognized as someone with telepathy. So a psychic IS a telepath? I know we have some redundant words in our language, but I'm pretty sure these two words have different connotations. I think perhaps you missed what Kursed said earlier (and later) and what I prefaced my post with, which is that there are different levels of mental abilities relating to reading other people and whatnot. The earlier ones -are- included in the later ones, of course. It's like knowing arithmetic (empathy), algebra (telepathy), and calculus (psychic ability). Really hard to know calculus without knowing basic arithmetic, if ya get my meaning. That said, if you can show me a credible source for your claim that a psychic is the same thing as a telepath, I'll be willing to amend my own personal definitions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kursed Posted April 16, 2009 Share Posted April 16, 2009 So a psychic IS a telepath? I know we have some redundant words in our language, but I'm pretty sure these two words have different connotations. I think perhaps you missed what Kursed said earlier (and later) and what I prefaced my post with, which is that there are different levels of mental abilities relating to reading other people and whatnot. The earlier ones -are- included in the later ones, of course. It's like knowing arithmetic (empathy), algebra (telepathy), and calculus (psychic ability). Really hard to know calculus without knowing basic arithmetic, if ya get my meaning. That said, if you can show me a credible source for your claim that a psychic is the same thing as a telepath, I'll be willing to amend my own personal definitions. I"m pretty sure a psychic can read the future and possibly has telekinesis I think the terms have been used interchangably but they mean a completely diffrent level or thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samantha Weltzin Posted April 16, 2009 Share Posted April 16, 2009 I"m pretty sure a psychic can read the future and possibly has telekinesis I think the terms have been used interchangably but they mean a completely diffrent level or thing. The more I think about it, the more confusing it's getting. I went to dictionary.com to help clear things up, and here's what I found: psyâ˘chic âadjective Also, psyâ chiâ cal. 1. of or pertaining to the human soul or mind; mental (opposed to physical ). 2. Psychology. pertaining to or noting mental phenomena. 3. outside of natural or scientific knowledge; spiritual. 4. of or pertaining to some apparently nonphysical force or agency: psychic research; psychic phenomena. 5. sensitive to influences or forces of a nonphysical or supernatural nature. ânoun 6. a person who is allegedly sensitive to psychic influences or forces; medium. Probably the best one for what we're talking about is 5, which would indicate that "Psychic" is a catch-all term for anyone who has the abilities we're discussing. As such, I think I just took myself up on the challenge I offered Falcory and proved his point. So I guess a person who can tell the future and past would best be called something like a "seer," I imagine. Still, our favorite blue vixen is a telepath, which I guess is the "second tier" of psychic abilities. Unless someone has a reasonable amendment to the definition part of Sabre's post, perhaps we ought to move on to "Why the heck doesn't she use them to their full potential in the games?!" My thought always has been that she could do a lot more but has been constantly given the shaft by the StarFox storywriters for one reason or another. For now I'm going to go with incompetence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kursed Posted April 16, 2009 Share Posted April 16, 2009 1.the storywriters 2.She may not have fully developed those powers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrono Reaper Posted June 1, 2009 Share Posted June 1, 2009 I'd have to agree that even though her extrasensory doesn't allow her to fully read minds I can easily believe its enough to sense a presence if someone is near or very far away, like she did when she picked up a distress on Sauria in Assault. If she could read minds she would easy be able to predict enemies movements in battle tipping the favor in her hand. But since she is more of a damsel in Adventures and sometimes gets in trouble in Assault it has come to my conclusion she is not able to use her telepathy for mind reading. I do believe that people with Telepathy can do other forms with their extrasensory by putting their thoughts into other people. In certain science fiction novels like Starship Troopers, Carl's mental Telepathy allowed him to make arachnids heads explode by overloading their brains capacity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Julius Quasar Posted June 1, 2009 Share Posted June 1, 2009 I'd have to agree that even though her extrasensory doesn't allow her to fully read minds I can easily believe its enough to sense a presence if someone is near or very far away, like she did when she picked up a distress on Sauria in Assault. If she could read minds she would easy be able to predict enemies movements in battle tipping the favor in her hand. But since she is more of a damsel in Adventures and sometimes gets in trouble in Assault it has come to my conclusion she is not able to use her telepathy for mind reading. I agree, there... I do believe that people with Telepathy can do other forms with their extrasensory by putting their thoughts into other people. In certain science fiction novels like Starship Troopers, Carl's mental Telepathy allowed him to make arachnids heads explode by overloading their brains capacity. COOOOOOOOOL! :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falcory Posted June 1, 2009 Share Posted June 1, 2009 I do believe that people with Telepathy can do other forms with their extrasensory by putting their thoughts into other people. In certain science fiction novels like Starship Troopers, Carl's mental Telepathy allowed him to make arachnids heads explode by overloading their brains capacity. That's not true of all telepaths however. I know Psylocke (A X-man) can cast illsions by making people's brain see things differently in their minds. Xavier is even able to control weak willed people. (Like the Jedi) However Krystal has not shown herself to do either of these things just like certain other telelpaths don't have these powers as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabre Posted June 1, 2009 Author Share Posted June 1, 2009 I saw an advert on tele for a program called 'lie to me' where a person reads body language to catch criminals or something. The way he could tell a lier or truth teller reminds me of Kyrstal a bit. Only Krystal isn't a middle ages man who solves crimes. Maybe something for the reboot? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrono Reaper Posted June 2, 2009 Share Posted June 2, 2009 That's not true of all telepaths however. I know Psylocke (A X-man) can cast illsions by making people's brain see things differently in their minds. Xavier is even able to control weak willed people. (Like the Jedi) However Krystal has not shown herself to do either of these things just like certain other telelpaths don't have these powers as well. Did I even say Krystal has these capabilities? No... But that doesn't mean it never stated she is capable of having something like that either and there never will be unless Nintendo wants to go further into her persona. FYI, we are talking about phenomenon, stuff that can't be explained through science. I read a lot of science fiction novels where telepathic do really weird stuff. I only wanted to point out Roughnecks and the Starship Trooper Chronicles because I think its cool to point out there can be telepathic people like Carl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kursed Posted June 2, 2009 Share Posted June 2, 2009 Krystal's powers included that of a standard telepath and although she may not be able to do the 'jedi mind trick' she may still be able to we really don't know after all assault din't really use Krystal's telepathy very well anyway she din't get much of a chance to use it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrono Reaper Posted June 2, 2009 Share Posted June 2, 2009 Krystal's powers included that of a standard telepath and although she may not be able to do the 'jedi mind trick' she may still be able to we really don't know after all assault din't really use Krystal's telepathy very well anyway she din't get much of a chance to use it. Precisely...There is little we can assume of her power unless Nintendo decides to go deep in her personality in the next game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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