Star Fox Runner Posted January 4, 2010 Share Posted January 4, 2010 Holiday break is almost over, and it IS over for some of us. Time for another semester of school.I go back tomorrow. Last semester of High School, I had trouble at the very end of the past semester, and I managed to scrape by in my Algebra 3 class, but this semester, I have to take Algebra 3 AND Trigonometry, math is my weakest link.If it means spending less time here on SF-O, so be it, I must pass these classes, I'll still graduate even if I fail these, but it'll make my college transcript look bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Krystal Posted January 4, 2010 Share Posted January 4, 2010 Hey, if you're bad at math, that just means you have to practice it more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Julius Quasar Posted January 4, 2010 Share Posted January 4, 2010 Holiday break is almost over, and it IS over for some of us. Time for another semester of school.I go back tomorrow. Last semester of High School, I had trouble at the very end of the past semester, and I managed to scrape by in my Algebra 3 class, but this semester, I have to take Algebra 3 AND Trigonometry, math is my weakest link.If it means spending less time here on SF-O, so be it, I must pass these classes, I'll still graduate even if I fail these, but it'll make my college transcript look bad.Oh, s***, dude, no offense, but I am soooo glad I'm not you, with all your pressures.Hell, if I learned anything from the great Bill Watterson, it's "I find my life easier the lower I keep everyone's expectations."For me, I take the basic math (hell, all the basic classes), no college, no 6 figure or high 5 figure income, the dented/bullet riddled car, the job where I'm self employed or hide behind a union, the neighborhood where they like to hang the shoes over the phone wire and you hear police sirens a lot, and the girlfriend/wife with a hacking cough,who can hot-wire a car....My point is, don't overreach....keep your own expectations of yourself and the others expectations of you low, and you'll have a happier life...that's just my opinion, is all. ...and also, going to college doesn't guarantee you a better life/future, or better odds for getting those. In this day and age, it's all about "who you know" (or what you are)but good luck anyways, SF-Runner.Hey, if you're bad at math, that just means you have to practice it more.Pfft! Yeah, right...to be honest, you either can or you can't do math, there is no "practice/get better", IMO.... (no offense) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest FoXXX Posted January 4, 2010 Share Posted January 4, 2010 Holiday break is almost over, and it IS over for some of us. Time for another semester of school.I go back tomorrow. Last semester of High School, I had trouble at the very end of the past semester, and I managed to scrape by in my Algebra 3 class, but this semester, I have to take Algebra 3 AND Trigonometry, math is my weakest link.If it means spending less time here on SF-O, so be it, I must pass these classes, I'll still graduate even if I fail these, but it'll make my college transcript look bad.Sucks Good luck though Oh, s***, dude, no offense, but I am soooo glad I'm not you, with all your pressures.Hell, if I learned anything from the great Bill Watterson, it's "I find my life easier the lower I keep everyone's expectations."For me, I take the basic math (hell, all the basic classes), no college, no 6 figure or high 5 figure income, the dented/bullet riddled car, the job where I'm self employed or hide behind a union, the neighborhood where they like to hang the shoes over the phone wire and you hear police sirens a lot, and the girlfriend/wife with a hacking cough,who can hot-wire a car....My point is, don't overreach....keep your own expectations of yourself and the others expectations of you low, and you'll have a happier life...that's just my opinion, is all. ...and also, going to college doesn't guarantee you a better life/future, or better odds for getting those. In this day and age, it's all about "who you know" (or what you are)but good luck anyways, SF-Runner.Pfft! Yeah, right...to be honest, you either can or you can't do math, there is no "practice/get better", IMO.... (no offense)100% agree with this :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asper Sarnoff Posted January 4, 2010 Share Posted January 4, 2010 Holiday break is almost over, and it IS over for some of us. Time for another semester of school.I go back tomorrow. Last semester of High School, I had trouble at the very end of the past semester, and I managed to scrape by in my Algebra 3 class, but this semester, I have to take Algebra 3 AND Trigonometry, math is my weakest link.If it means spending less time here on SF-O, so be it, I must pass these classes, I'll still graduate even if I fail these, but it'll make my college transcript look bad.Ehh, would it be a little sickening if I told you I find maths to be easy, and always get top grades?Julius is actually sort of right. Practice can only take you so far with maths. It is a special way to think and use logic some people have that makes them truly excell in math.On the other hand, I got back today. Since I've basically switced day and night, I actually doubt I sleept at all tonight. I just remember laying fully awaken trying to sleep, and then suddenly Hells Bells (Yes, thats what I call my alarm clock.) started ringing. Almost an hour drive to school in the worst conditions I've driven in so far. Blistering snow storm which no one could see more than a couple of meters in, and me being half asleep and all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kursed Posted January 4, 2010 Share Posted January 4, 2010 Holiday break is almost over, and it IS over for some of us. Time for another semester of school.I go back tomorrow. Last semester of High School, I had trouble at the very end of the past semester, and I managed to scrape by in my Algebra 3 class, but this semester, I have to take Algebra 3 AND Trigonometry, math is my weakest link.If it means spending less time here on SF-O, so be it, I must pass these classes, I'll still graduate even if I fail these, but it'll make my college transcript look bad.well do come in from time to time to chat runner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest FoXXX Posted January 4, 2010 Share Posted January 4, 2010 Ehh, would it be a little sickening if I told you I find maths to be easy, and always get top grades?Julius is actually sort of right. Practice can only take you so far with maths. It is a special way to think and use logic some people have that makes them truly excell in math.On the other hand, I got back today. Since I've basically switced day and night, I actually doubt I sleept at all tonight. I just remember laying fully awaken trying to sleep, and then suddenly Hells Bells (Yes, thats what I call my alarm clock.) started ringing. Almost an hour drive to school in the worst conditions I've driven in so far. Blistering snow storm which no one could see more than a couple of meters in, and me being half asleep and all.Lol :SWe're going to get another 7 inches of snow tomorrow night :| Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StarFoxIII Posted January 4, 2010 Share Posted January 4, 2010 Just got back to school today. It's a pain in the ass to get back to my normal routine after being out of school for over a week on break . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DZComposer Posted January 4, 2010 Share Posted January 4, 2010 I know that I really shouldn't tell you this, but if you plug math problems into Wolfram Alpha, it will do them for you...For example, findign this integral ?(2x2+2x-12)dx (this is the kind of crap I had to put up with in my calculus class, but we went further and started dealing with derivatives and shit. It sucked.)Just click "show steps" Note that it only goes so far. If I put a huge-ass polynomial in there and tell it to find the 12th derivative it, it will only give me the answer not the steps.It also has writeups on the different mathematical things along with examples, IE http://reference.wolfram.com/mathematica/ref/Integrate.htmlNOTE: I DO NOT condone cheating. Use this to see different examples and to check your work, not do you homework for you.But, I can say this: Wolfram Alpha kicks ass! It also can do statistics and is an almanac.But back on the topic, I find that accounting sucks worse than algebra. The math in accounting is pretty simple, really. Mostly the big four operations (+, -, *, / ). But, remembering what number goes where and whether or not you add this to that is a pain in the ass. And then you have Credits and Debits, which are NOT like you think they are.Bank Statements imply that a credit is adding, and a debit is subtracting. Oh, no. Debit and Credit are basically fancy words for "left" and "right" respectively. Of course it's a little more technical than that, but still...This semester, I have VB programming, Systems Analysis, Some stupid music history class that I can probably sleep through and get an A, marketing, statistics (at 8am in the frikkin morning... fuuuun... ), and concert band.DO NOT TAKE STATISTICS UNLESS YOU NEED IT! IT SUCKS! Especially if they make you have to learn SAS or SPSS (stats software) at the same frikkin time...SPSS sucks. Luckilly I don't need it for my stats class. I am the computer tech for the psychology department at my school (My major is not Psych, though, it's a BBA in Computer Info. Sys. [business school]). Unluckily, they use it for their stats classes, so I still have to deal with that piece of crap. And I hear SAS is worse... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Showtime 1-1 Posted January 5, 2010 Share Posted January 5, 2010 Yeah, I went back today too. It does suck, but it was nice to see my friends again. I just have to practice my Chem and, believe it or not, Religion stuff. NOT looking forward to finals last week of January.must... do... WELL! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Julius Quasar Posted January 5, 2010 Share Posted January 5, 2010 100% agree with this thank you!Julius is actually sort of right. Practice can only take you so far with maths. It is a special way to think and use logic some people have that makes them truly excell in math."...actually sort of right"!? I am right! I know that I really shouldn't tell you this, but if you plug math problems into Wolfram Alpha, it will do them for you...For example, findign this integral ?(2x2+2x-12)dx (this is the kind of crap I had to put up with in my calculus class, but we went further and started dealing with derivatives and shit. It sucked.)Just click "show steps" Note that it only goes so far. If I put a huge-ass polynomial in there and tell it to find the 12th derivative it, it will only give me the answer not the steps.It also has writeups on the different mathematical things along with examples, IE http://reference.wolfram.com/mathematica/ref/Integrate.htmlNOTE: I DO NOT condone cheating. Use this to see different examples and to check your work, not do you homework for you.But, I can say this: Wolfram Alpha kicks ass! It also can do statistics and is an almanac.But back on the topic, I find that accounting sucks worse than algebra. The math in accounting is pretty simple, really. Mostly the big four operations (+, -, *, / ). But, remembering what number goes where and whether or not you add this to that is a pain in the ass. And then you have Credits and Debits, which are NOT like you think they are.Bank Statements imply that a credit is adding, and a debit is subtracting. Oh, no. Debit and Credit are basically fancy words for "left" and "right" respectively. Of course it's a little more technical than that, but still...This semester, I have VB programming, Systems Analysis, Some stupid music history class that I can probably sleep through and get an A, marketing, statistics (at 8am in the frikkin morning... fuuuun... ), and concert band.DO NOT TAKE STATISTICS UNLESS YOU NEED IT! IT SUCKS! Especially if they make you have to learn SAS or SPSS (stats software) at the same frikkin time...SPSS sucks. Luckilly I don't need it for my stats class. I am the computer tech for the psychology department at my school (My major is not Psych, though, it's a BBA in Computer Info. Sys. [business school]). Unluckily, they use it for their stats classes, so I still have to deal with that piece of crap. And I hear SAS is worse...ahhhh! that there's the devil's math! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Star Fox Runner Posted January 5, 2010 Author Share Posted January 5, 2010 I know that I really shouldn't tell you this, but if you plug math problems into Wolfram Alpha, it will do them for you...For example, findign this integral ?(2x2+2x-12)dx (this is the kind of crap I had to put up with in my calculus class, but we went further and started dealing with derivatives and shit. It sucked.)Just click "show steps" Note that it only goes so far. If I put a huge-ass polynomial in there and tell it to find the 12th derivative it, it will only give me the answer not the steps.It also has writeups on the different mathematical things along with examples, IE http://reference.wolfram.com/mathematica/ref/Integrate.htmlNOTE: I DO NOT condone cheating. Use this to see different examples and to check your work, not do you homework for you.But, I can say this: Wolfram Alpha kicks ass! It also can do statistics and is an almanac.But back on the topic, I find that accounting sucks worse than algebra. The math in accounting is pretty simple, really. Mostly the big four operations (+, -, *, / ). But, remembering what number goes where and whether or not you add this to that is a pain in the ass. And then you have Credits and Debits, which are NOT like you think they are.Bank Statements imply that a credit is adding, and a debit is subtracting. Oh, no. Debit and Credit are basically fancy words for "left" and "right" respectively. Of course it's a little more technical than that, but still...This semester, I have VB programming, Systems Analysis, Some stupid music history class that I can probably sleep through and get an A, marketing, statistics (at 8am in the frikkin morning... fuuuun... ), and concert band.DO NOT TAKE STATISTICS UNLESS YOU NEED IT! IT SUCKS! Especially if they make you have to learn SAS or SPSS (stats software) at the same frikkin time...SPSS sucks. Luckilly I don't need it for my stats class. I am the computer tech for the psychology department at my school (My major is not Psych, though, it's a BBA in Computer Info. Sys. [business school]). Unluckily, they use it for their stats classes, so I still have to deal with that piece of crap. And I hear SAS is worse...Don't worry, I won't use it to cheat, I hate math, but I will finish this honestly. It would help with examples though. Thanks DZ!Outside of regular classes and the two college classes I'm taking, I'm taking Advanced Web Design! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest FoXXX Posted January 5, 2010 Share Posted January 5, 2010 Oh wow u guys look pretty overworked. Kinda makes me clad sometimes that I'm only in 7th grade Well today when I came back I was hit with a huge English project and then I TRYED to learn chemical equations but didn't understand anything. Good things my mom is a teacher in the same school or I could be held backtoday. Right now watching monday night war 27th grade math is for me Math. Is hard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarita Posted January 5, 2010 Share Posted January 5, 2010 I'm glad I didnt have to take any actual math courses this year. Though I did take Physics, which might as well be a math course DxBut I have to take Government this semester, which is the HARDEST class at our school, and it's required for graduation. Thankfully, halfway through, we switch to Economics, so hopefully it wont be that bad. Aside that I'm taking the only art class our school offers. :B and Chemistry, just because I failed it in 10th grade. I was very depressed, you see. But that is neither here nor there. Less than 5 months until graduation. It'll go fast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DZComposer Posted January 5, 2010 Share Posted January 5, 2010 You think Government is hard? I remember high school government covering the constitution, and a little but about how each branch works, in a nutshell. Nothing bad.Yes, remembering supreme court cases can be a little tough, but hey, they are worth knowing about. I think in high school we only covered a few, like Marbury v. Madison (the court granted itself the power to judge constitutionality of laws), Miranda v. Arizona ( responsible for "You have the right to remain silent..." during arrests), Dred Scott v. Sandford (slavery was legal until the 13th amendment was passed banning it), Plessy v. Ferguson which upheld Jim Crow laws (until constitutional changes), etc. I don't think they'll go into senate and house rules or anything (we only barely grazed that in my college-level Government classes, higher-level poli-sci classes (for poli-sci majors) take care of that).It could be worse, though. I don't think they will teach Santa Clara County V. Southern Pacific railroad (started the road towards corporations having constitutional rights), or Sony V. Universal Studios (fair use of copyrighted materials) or other random cases. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Star Fox Runner Posted January 5, 2010 Author Share Posted January 5, 2010 I'm glad I didnt have to take any actual math courses this year. Though I did take Physics, which might as well be a math course DxBut I have to take Government this semester, which is the HARDEST class at our school, and it's required for graduation. Thankfully, halfway through, we switch to Economics, so hopefully it wont be that bad. Aside that I'm taking the only art class our school offers. :B and Chemistry, just because I failed it in 10th grade. I was very depressed, you see. But that is neither here nor there. Less than 5 months until graduation. It'll go fast.Oh, I forgot, I'm also continuing Physics from last semester, 3 math heavy courses in one semester, well ain't that just fantastic. Oh well, the greater the challenge, the greater the victory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePointingMan Posted January 5, 2010 Share Posted January 5, 2010 I know that I really shouldn't tell you this, but if you plug math problems into Wolfram Alpha, it will do them for you...If your gonna do that, you may as well just look at the back of the books Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarita Posted January 5, 2010 Share Posted January 5, 2010 You think Government is hard? I remember high school government covering the constitution, and a little but about how each branch works, in a nutshell. Nothing bad.Yes, remembering supreme court cases can be a little tough, but hey, they are worth knowing about. I think in high school we only covered a few, like Marbury v. Madison (the court granted itself the power to judge constitutionality of laws), Miranda v. Arizona ( responsible for "You have the right to remain silent..." during arrests), Dred Scott v. Sandford (slavery was legal until the 13th amendment was passed banning it), Plessy v. Ferguson which upheld Jim Crow laws (until constitutional changes), etc. I don't think they'll go into senate and house rules or anything (we only barely grazed that in my college-level Government classes, higher-level poli-sci classes (for poli-sci majors) take care of that).It could be worse, though. I don't think they will teach Santa Clara County V. Southern Pacific railroad (started the road towards corporations having constitutional rights), or Sony V. Universal Studios (fair use of copyrighted materials) or other random cases.It's really the teacher that makes it hell for most of us. There's never a dull day, so I hear. Though she does have days where she just talks about random things. And it's a lot of work. But eh.She does require you to memorize every country and capitol in the world. So that kinda sucks. And requires an outline for every single chapter in the book, which also sucks.And there's a 10 page paper at the end of the semester. And we do at least 10 court cases, I think. And that's just the Government section, 9 weeks. I dont remember what my friends said abotu the Economics section, because after first quarter, it just kinda went "whoosh" right by me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Posted January 5, 2010 Share Posted January 5, 2010 I know that I really shouldn't tell you this, but if you plug math problems into Wolfram Alpha, it will do them for you...For example, findign this integral ?(2x2+2x-12)dx (this is the kind of crap I had to put up with in my calculus class, but we went further and started dealing with derivatives and shit. It sucked.)Just click "show steps" Note that it only goes so far. If I put a huge-ass polynomial in there and tell it to find the 12th derivative it, it will only give me the answer not the steps.It also has writeups on the different mathematical things along with examples, IE http://reference.wolfram.com/mathematica/ref/Integrate.htmlNOTE: I DO NOT condone cheating. Use this to see different examples and to check your work, not do you homework for you.But, I can say this: Wolfram Alpha kicks ass! It also can do statistics and is an almanac.But back on the topic, I find that accounting sucks worse than algebra. The math in accounting is pretty simple, really. Mostly the big four operations (+, -, *, / ). But, remembering what number goes where and whether or not you add this to that is a pain in the ass. And then you have Credits and Debits, which are NOT like you think they are.Bank Statements imply that a credit is adding, and a debit is subtracting. Oh, no. Debit and Credit are basically fancy words for "left" and "right" respectively. Of course it's a little more technical than that, but still...This semester, I have VB programming, Systems Analysis, Some stupid music history class that I can probably sleep through and get an A, marketing, statistics (at 8am in the frikkin morning... fuuuun... ), and concert band.DO NOT TAKE STATISTICS UNLESS YOU NEED IT! IT SUCKS! Especially if they make you have to learn SAS or SPSS (stats software) at the same frikkin time...SPSS sucks. Luckilly I don't need it for my stats class. I am the computer tech for the psychology department at my school (My major is not Psych, though, it's a BBA in Computer Info. Sys. [business school]). Unluckily, they use it for their stats classes, so I still have to deal with that piece of crap. And I hear SAS is worse...I love wolfram alpha, but it stopped being too useful to me on Calculus II, the stuff I was trying to solve was too complicated for the program to follow, or at least it didn't give me a clear overview of how to solve it (however, this thing is godly, I tell you, godly if you have to take basic calculus classes). Probability and Statistics was kinda fun to me, since we used a lot of programming involved to solve real time problems (or just plain old excel when we felt lazy, it really helps , since it has premade statistics stats out of the cooking book, then again, I don't have any idea on how to program on excel to integrate or derivate so it became useless fast) not SAS like the Business students have to take, it gets better when you create your own world instead of following a pre-made software. Then again, I've heard the kind of statistics engineers have to take are quite different to what Business related folks take.This semester I'll be dealing with full 52 credit hours worth on classes and work so it will be pretty tough. If my memory doesn't fail me, I'll be taking:*Calculus IV (YAY , finally last one)*Engineering physics I (which is basically your adv physics high school class, just with calculus involved instead of formulas)*Project Engineering (Which I believe it should be about how to make engineering related projects)*Networking I*Data Structure (It's like pre-Database)*PSP *Thesis I ( I have no idea what to make my thesis of )*Cisco III (Possibly dropping cause it's not a requisite to graduate and I'm not into networking and it worths 0 freaking credits, isn't that great?, tho...having a Cisco degree throws a lot of job opportunities x_X)My school hours will still be crazy, waking up at 6am is not fun, nor is it the fact that my Thursdays will be hell, since I have classes from 9am to 9pm without breaks and I have school on Saturday too, something I've been trying to avoid . I just really hope I don't have to drop a class , cause I think I overloaded myself this time, I usually take 35 credits per semester, and this is basically one third more than I'm used to. The only reason I'm doing this is because I don't want to have school on summer (having 3 months of vacations beats 25 days) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest FoXXX Posted January 5, 2010 Share Posted January 5, 2010 Oh, I forgot, I'm also continuing Physics from last semester, 3 math heavy courses in one semester, well ain't that just fantastic. Oh well, the greater the challenge, the greater the victory.That's the spirit Good luck :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StarFoxIII Posted January 5, 2010 Share Posted January 5, 2010 My second day back went by a LOT easier than yesterday. One of my classmates brought a Gamecube to Economics class and we were playing Super Smash Bros. Melee behind the teacher's back. When I noticed the teacher coming back into the class, I said "Oh shit we're in trouble" and I turned off the GCN. No-one was mad at me though, cuz they understood my intentions but someone turned the GameCube back on and we started playing Melee again cause the teacher was impressed with us for having a Gamecube in class rather than angry. The teacher even played Melee with some of my classmates for one round ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rainfyre66 Posted January 5, 2010 Share Posted January 5, 2010 I'm in a constant back and forth with myself of whether or not to go back to school, or apply to art school. The thing is, I hated school growing up because I don't do well with the structure of it and I don't want to waste my time and money just to suck at it. Plus, I know tons of other people who have gone to college and graduated, and they're not any further ahead in life than I am. Yet, it could help me get closer to finding my niche... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StarFoxIII Posted January 5, 2010 Share Posted January 5, 2010 I'm in a constant back and forth with myself of whether or not to go back to school, or apply to art school. The thing is, I hated school growing up because I don't do well with the structure of it and I don't want to waste my time and money just to suck at it. Plus, I know tons of other people who have gone to college and graduated, and they're not any further ahead in life than I am. Yet, it could help me get closer to finding my niche...Why do you wish to go to art school? Anything in mind for an art career? If you dislike the way school went for you as a kid, consider art school or vocational school. I know voc schools have a reputation for being "Dumb people schools" but they actually can help you find jobs that can make you lots of money because of the trade that you learned that so few people know in this day and age in a society where children are expected to become white-collar, college-educated, suburban, "sanitary" people without much character in their lives. I'm not trying to dictate where you should go in life (as you're a mother and I'm only a 16 year old boy), but I'm sincerely trying to give you some advice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest FoXXX Posted January 5, 2010 Share Posted January 5, 2010 My second day back went by a LOT easier than yesterday. One of my classmates brought a Gamecube to Economics class and we were playing Super Smash Bros. Melee behind the teacher's back. When I noticed the teacher coming back into the class, I said "Oh shit we're in trouble" and I turned off the GCN. No-one was mad at me though, cuz they understood my intentions but someone turned the GameCube back on and we started playing Melee again cause the teacher was impressed with us for having a Gamecube in class rather than angry. The teacher even played Melee with some of my classmates for one round !I wished I could have played GC in school :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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