Chrono Reaper Posted January 5, 2010 Share Posted January 5, 2010 In the development of the 1992 Star Fox comic, an artist by the named Benimaru Itoh under the wing of Shigeru Miyamoto's concept directions toward anthropic design, came up with the concept of a dog like authoritative figure for the plot of what would forevermore be remembered as General Pepper in Star Fox. Benimaru openly known for being a Beatles fan most likely came up with the name "General Pepper" from the album, "Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts". In the comic, it shows General Pepper as a Sergeant in the same pose from that very album. Why am I saying this? Because the Beatles were a heavy influence in Benimaru Itoh's development in the Star Fox Comic. Pretty much every chapter title is from a Beatles song, Such as "Fixing a Hole", "Here comes the Sun" and "Hello Goodbye". If it wasn't for The Beatles who knows whether General Pepper would still exist. (That's debatable unless Shigeru came up with his name).Coincidence? I think not.EDIT: If this topic related to the Old Star Fox Games feels more suited in the General Star Fox Thread, its ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kursed Posted January 5, 2010 Share Posted January 5, 2010 Too bad there wasn't "We all live in a Yellow submarine.." lol this is very intresting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Star Fox Runner Posted January 5, 2010 Share Posted January 5, 2010 You know what? I always felt there was a connection to General Pepper and that song, but I never knew Itoh was a Beatles fan, now the pieces of the puzzle fit! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Julius Quasar Posted January 6, 2010 Share Posted January 6, 2010 Awesome! I didn't know that at first, I only learned it 2 years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrono Reaper Posted January 6, 2010 Author Share Posted January 6, 2010 I also want to note that there were a lot of other references from the comic as well...just that The Beatles are the most noticeable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DZComposer Posted January 6, 2010 Share Posted January 6, 2010 You know what? I always felt there was a connection to General Pepper and that song, but I never knew Itoh was a Beatles fan, now the pieces of the puzzle fit!The Biggest reference is when Fara asks Pepper why he didn't help Fox out after his father died, Pepper replies "I was just a Sergent then." The frame the text appears in as a direct spoof of the Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band album cover, except that the depicted bass drum says "Sgt. Pepper Happy Heart" instead.http://arwinglanding.net/gallery/displayimage.php?album=1&pos=41I like how the sculptor looks like Mario on this page:http://arwinglanding.net/gallery/displayimage.php?album=1&pos=110Which also has, IMHO, the greatest pun of all of the SF comics:FALCO: So why do I look like a chicken?FOX: The Sculptor just used "Artistic License?"FALCO: It's EXPIRED!One thing that this comic inspired in the random that has long-since died was constant depictions of Gen. Pepper sucking on lollipops. He has one in almost every frame of the comic. He even offers one to Fara in the midst of the shit hitting the fan, to which she replies "How can you eat sweets at a time like this" or something similar.I haven't seen this very often lately, sadly. I thought it was quite funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kursed Posted January 6, 2010 Share Posted January 6, 2010 The Biggest reference is when Fara asks Pepper why he didn't help Fox out after his father died, Pepper replies "I was just a Sergent then." The frame the text appears in as a direct spoof of the Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band album cover, except that the depicted bass drum says "Sgt. Pepper Happy Heart" instead.http://arwinglanding.net/gallery/displayimage.php?album=1&pos=41I like how the sculptor looks like Mario on this page:http://arwinglanding.net/gallery/displayimage.php?album=1&pos=110Which also has, IMHO, the greatest pun of all of the SF comics:FALCO: So why do I look like a chicken?FOX: The Sculptor just used "Artistic License?"FALCO: It's EXPIRED!One thing that this comic inspired in the random that has long-since died was constant depictions of Gen. Pepper sucking on lollipops. He has one in almost every frame of the comic. I haven't seen this very often lately, sadly. I thought it was quite funny. Now that' is Funny! looking at the picture. But seriously i don't get it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Star Fox Runner Posted January 7, 2010 Share Posted January 7, 2010 I really liked the old SF comic, it was really clever in some of its jokes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Julius Quasar Posted January 7, 2010 Share Posted January 7, 2010 The Biggest reference is when Fara asks Pepper why he didn't help Fox out after his father died, Pepper replies "I was just a Sergent then." The frame the text appears in as a direct spoof of the Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band album cover, except that the depicted bass drum says "Sgt. Pepper Happy Heart" instead.http://arwinglanding.net/gallery/displayimage.php?album=1&pos=41I like how the sculptor looks like Mario on this page:http://arwinglanding.net/gallery/displayimage.php?album=1&pos=110Which also has, IMHO, the greatest pun of all of the SF comics:FALCO: So why do I look like a chicken?FOX: The Sculptor just used "Artistic License?"FALCO: It's EXPIRED!One thing that this comic inspired in the random that has long-since died was constant depictions of Gen. Pepper sucking on lollipops. He has one in almost every frame of the comic. He even offers one to Fara in the midst of the shit hitting the fan, to which she replies "How can you eat sweets at a time like this" or something similar.I haven't seen this very often lately, sadly. I thought it was quite funny.COOL!Really funny! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DZComposer Posted January 7, 2010 Share Posted January 7, 2010 Now that' is Funny! looking at the picture. But seriously i don't get it...The Artistic License part? If so, Artistic License means that an artist chooses to make changes to the subject that are not prototypical, IE drawing the Washington Monument next to the Leaning Tower of Pisa.A common definition of the word license is a government-issued certification that an entity is competent to perform whatever activity the license describes, IE driver's licenses certify that you know the rules of the road and the basics of operating a motor vehicle. Most licenses are temporary, and need to be renewed upon expiration.Fox was using the first definition I used, Falco used the second, IE a classic pun.If you meant the Beatles reference, then see this:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Pepper%27s.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kursed Posted January 7, 2010 Share Posted January 7, 2010 The Artistic License part? If so, Artistic License means that an artist chooses to make changes to the subject that are not prototypical, IE drawing the Washington Monument next to the Leaning Tower of Pisa.A common definition of the word license is a government-issued certification that an entity is competent to perform whatever activity the license describes, IE driver's licenses certify that you know the rules of the road and the basics of operating a motor vehicle. Most licenses are temporary, and need to be renewed upon expiration.Fox was using the first definition I used, Falco used the second, IE a classic pun.If you meant the Beatles reference, then see this:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Pepper%27s.jpgoh i get it now I though Falco was like why do I look like a chicken because it's expired as in like expired food.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asper Sarnoff Posted January 7, 2010 Share Posted January 7, 2010 The Biggest reference is when Fara asks Pepper why he didn't help Fox out after his father died, Pepper replies "I was just a Sergent then." The frame the text appears in as a direct spoof of the Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band album cover, except that the depicted bass drum says "Sgt. Pepper Happy Heart" instead.http://arwinglanding.net/gallery/displayimage.php?album=1&pos=41I like how the sculptor looks like Mario on this page:http://arwinglanding.net/gallery/displayimage.php?album=1&pos=110Which also has, IMHO, the greatest pun of all of the SF comics:FALCO: So why do I look like a chicken?FOX: The Sculptor just used "Artistic License?"FALCO: It's EXPIRED!One thing that this comic inspired in the random that has long-since died was constant depictions of Gen. Pepper sucking on lollipops. He has one in almost every frame of the comic. He even offers one to Fara in the midst of the shit hitting the fan, to which she replies "How can you eat sweets at a time like this" or something similar.I haven't seen this very often lately, sadly. I thought it was quite funny.Hehe, good stuff that old comic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Star Fox Runner Posted January 8, 2010 Share Posted January 8, 2010 Okay, this connection is a little bit more obscure but bare with me here.There was actually a movie called Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band that was loosely based on the Beatles album. (I have never seen it so I don't know if its any good.) There was a main character in the movie called Billy Shears. As some of you might know, the bad guy the Star Fox Adventures comic was named Captain Shears.This is probably a coincidence, but still a weird connection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DZComposer Posted January 9, 2010 Share Posted January 9, 2010 http://arwinglanding.net/gallery/displayimage.php?album=1&pos=17OMG! naked Slippy! (bottom left of bottom left frame) Back on topic, this comic has bunches of other references as well.http://arwinglanding.net/gallery/displayimage.php?album=1&pos=40The song sang by Slippy, Peppy, and Falco is an American patriotic song America, which is sang to the tune of the British national anthem, God Save the Queen. In their version, the song claims that the don't abide by evolution. Whether or not it is intentional, it appears like a reference to the evolution debate.The actual lyrics say:Land where my fathers died,Land of the pilgrims' pride,From every mountainsideLet freedom ring!Also, in the 4th panel, Falco seems to resemble Big Bird to me for some reason....http://arwinglanding.net/gallery/displayimage.php?album=1&pos=4Literally, "The Golden Rule" is 'Do unto others as you would have them do unto you." But figuratively, it also means "He who has the gold rules." This is a play on the later.http://arwinglanding.net/gallery/displayimage.php?album=1&pos=50In the middle of the bottom middle frame. Doesn't that ship bear a resemblance to the USS Enterprise (Star Trek)? And the one to the right of it looks like the Tantive IV (Star Wars).http://arwinglanding.net/gallery/displayimage.php?album=1&pos=65Yay for typos...http://arwinglanding.net/gallery/displayimage.php?album=1&pos=72"Thwomp" has a meaning to Mario fans...http://arwinglanding.net/gallery/displayimage.php?album=1&pos=92"Regular" and "Extra Crispy" are the batter types available at Kentucky Fired Chicken (KFC).http://arwinglanding.net/gallery/displayimage.php?album=1&pos=97Andross' compuer has two SNESes and a Super Famicom attached to it (bottom left frame). Also, apparently, Lylatian video compressions allows for the hig-res video of Andross' "will" and his brainwave patterns to fit in a 6 MB medium, in this case an SNES cart (largest SNES games were 6 megs).http://arwinglanding.net/gallery/displayimage.php?album=1&pos=100Look at the left monitor in the 3rd frame. It says "AMIGA." I think we know Mr. Itoh's OS of choice at the time, the AmigaOS. Amiga was the "Mac" (though NOT made by Apple. It's from Commodore [via acquisition]) of the early to mid '90s. All of the media pros used it. Oddly, AmigaOS 4 dropped a few years ago, seemingly out of the blue. But without new hardware to go with it, it was a non-event.http://arwinglanding.net/gallery/displayimage.php?album=1&pos=101The bard is using an electric Harp Guitar. It is a somewhat-rare instrument, especially the electric variety (most are acoustic). Strangely, the bard does not seem to have an amplifier for his electric instrument... You can see and hear a similar instrument in this vid:0snAydzm0g0http://arwinglanding.net/gallery/displayimage.php?album=1&pos=102The vehicle in the second frame somewhat resembles an AT-AT from Star Wars.http://arwinglanding.net/gallery/displayimage.php?album=1&pos=106One of those circuit boards inside HERBERT resembles a Game Boy.http://arwinglanding.net/gallery/displayimage.php?album=1&pos=111Some of the ships in the second frame resemble Star Destroyers from Star Wars.http://arwinglanding.net/gallery/displayimage.php?album=1&pos=112Pepper sings Hound Dog while.... Shaving? I guess it's a trimmer rather than a razor, as it does not remove the fur.There are probably more that I haven't noticed yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePointingMan Posted January 9, 2010 Share Posted January 9, 2010 http://arwinglanding.net/gallery/displayimage.php?album=1&pos=17OMG! naked Slippy! (bottom left of bottom left frame) So why is it that even though you say this, I still click on the horrible link. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Star Fox Runner Posted January 9, 2010 Share Posted January 9, 2010 So why is it that even though you say this, I still click on the horrible link.I am guilty of the same thing......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StarFoxIII Posted January 9, 2010 Share Posted January 9, 2010 So why is it that even though you say this, I still click on the horrible link.You got a sick mind, ThePointingMan, a sick sick mind *shakes head in disapproval*.Just kidding, but it's pretty wierd to want to see Slippy naked *shudders*. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kursed Posted January 9, 2010 Share Posted January 9, 2010 I have no idea what Amanda see's in that toad (Dang he's ugly.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
North_Star1980 Posted January 21, 2010 Share Posted January 21, 2010 http://arwinglanding.net/gallery/displayimage.php?album=1&pos=97Andross' compuer has two SNESes and a Super Famicom attached to it (bottom left frame). Also, apparently, Lylatian video compressions allows for the hig-res video of Andross' "will" and his brainwave patterns to fit in a 6 MB medium, in this case an SNES cart (largest SNES games were 6 megs).Look at what the pig is wearing, it look like the Gudam from Moblie Suit Gudam. Yeah, I am amine fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rainfyre66 Posted January 21, 2010 Share Posted January 21, 2010 Cheesy as they could be, the comics were a lot of fun, and did have good story elements too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Star Fox Runner Posted January 21, 2010 Share Posted January 21, 2010 Cheesy as they could be, the comics were a lot of fun, and did have good story elements too.I agree with that one, they were cool!I sometimes wish that Nintendo Power would start putting comics back in the magazine. The old Nintendo Power comics were fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalikimaka Posted March 6, 2010 Share Posted March 6, 2010 There was actually a movie called Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band that was loosely based on the Beatles album. (I have never seen it so I don't know if its any good.) There was a main character in the movie called Billy Shears. As some of you might know, the bad guy the Star Fox Adventures comic was named Captain Shears.This is probably a coincidence, but still a weird connection.I haven't seen the movie, but heard it wasn't great. That name's actually taken from the song. "So let me introduce to you/The one and only Billy Shears" and John/Paul/George shout "BIL-LY SHEARS" when the track fades into "With a Little Help from My Friends". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Monroe Posted May 21, 2010 Share Posted May 21, 2010 Look at what the pig is wearing, it look like the Gudam from Moblie Suit Gudam. Yeah, I am amine fan. Necroposting go! But this board needs activity so whatevs.Yes, Herbert's body chasis is basically lifted from the original Mobile Suit Gundam: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndf Posted May 23, 2010 Share Posted May 23, 2010 http://arwinglanding.net/gallery/displayimage.php?album=1&pos=47Bottom right panel-- There's a giant Super FX chip on top of a building. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrono Reaper Posted July 7, 2010 Author Share Posted July 7, 2010 yeah there are a lot of goodies in this comic X3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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