Sabre Posted February 17, 2010 Share Posted February 17, 2010 After a recent incedent in the news. I have been talking serious about the polatics of copyright, but here, let's get fun. If you could copyright ANYTHING, what would it be?I'd copy right the term Ceise and Desist. That way, whenever anyone get's sued, I can sue them back. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asper Sarnoff Posted February 17, 2010 Share Posted February 17, 2010 I'd copyright oxygen, so whenever one take a breath, they would pay a small fee to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vy'drach Posted February 17, 2010 Share Posted February 17, 2010 I'd copyright the word "And," and all the vowels, including Y. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoctorAllosaurus Posted February 17, 2010 Share Posted February 17, 2010 I'd copyright copyrighting, Just look at all that money roll in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest FoXXX Posted February 17, 2010 Share Posted February 17, 2010 I'd copyright oxygen, so whenever one take a breath, they would pay a small fee to me.^ThisWanna share the profits? :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Julius Quasar Posted February 17, 2010 Share Posted February 17, 2010 I'd copyright oxygen, so whenever one take a breath, they would pay a small fee to me.Actually, pure oxygen is NOT the typical air we all breathe, it's actually Nitrogen, something, and...damn, I don't remember, I flunked Chemistry in school (and Physics).Dry air contains roughly (by volume) 78% nitrogen, 21% oxygen, 0.93% argon, 0.038% carbon dioxide, and small amounts of other gases. Air also contains a variable amount of water vapor, on average around 1%.(from wikipedia).I'd copyright....STAR FOX! (or get the copyrights to it)OR...I'd copyright STFU, and LOL, all that internet talk....plus, I'd copyright phrases like "shut up", "go to hell", "f*** you" and lots of nasty name insults like "idiot", "jackass", "s***head", "d**chebag", a**hole", "mother f***er"...in this economy, with people being such pricks to one another, I'd make a fortune xDÂ plus, I could insult others, without being insulted back for free ORI'd copyright certain commonly used music notes, and whichever sharp or flats that go with them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asper Sarnoff Posted February 17, 2010 Share Posted February 17, 2010 Actually, pure oxygen is NOT the typical air we all breathe, it's actually Nitrogen, something, and...damn, I don't remember, I flunked Chemistry in school (and Physics).Indeed, but one can actually survive on only compressed oxygen for some time, so if I said "air", some people would only breathe once in a while to get their required doses of the other stuff, and go around with scuba gear on a day to day basis. :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Julius Quasar Posted February 17, 2010 Share Posted February 17, 2010 Indeed, but one can actually survive on only compressed oxygen for some time, so if I said "air", some people would only breathe once in a while to get their required doses of the other stuff, and go around with scuba gear on a day to day basis. true, plus oxygen is PART of air...Paris Hilton coined and copyrighted the phrase "that's hot", and David Spade said about that "What? So...every time I comment on my entree at Olive Garden, some slutty, spoiled millionaire gets a check!?" xDI heard some Jewish businessmen bought copyrights to the song "Happy Birthday", until a pro athlete bought them back, and made them public domain again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Green Fox Posted February 17, 2010 Share Posted February 17, 2010 all my original fiction and all my fanfiction, and....my name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Julius Quasar Posted February 17, 2010 Share Posted February 17, 2010 all my original fiction and all my fanfiction, and....my name.oh, yeah, great idea, I'd do that too with my name, fiction, and fanfics. :yes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Krystal Posted February 17, 2010 Share Posted February 17, 2010 Copyrights only work on creative works. You can't copyright something you didn't create (oxygen, your name, Star Fox). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asper Sarnoff Posted February 17, 2010 Share Posted February 17, 2010 Copyrights only work on creative works. You can't copyright something you didn't create (oxygen, your name, Star Fox).You're right in that. But as Sabre said: Anything.Also, I find copyright to be quite stupid. If everyone just had basic respect for other peoples work, it wouldn't be needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Julius Quasar Posted February 17, 2010 Share Posted February 17, 2010 Copyrights only work on creative works. You can't copyright something you didn't create (oxygen, your name, Star Fox).oops!You're right in that. But as Sabre said: Anything.Also, I find copyright to be quite stupid. If everyone just had basic respect for other peoples work, it wouldn't be needed.Agreed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabre Posted February 17, 2010 Author Share Posted February 17, 2010 Copyrights only work on creative works. You can't copyright something you didn't create (oxygen, your name, Star Fox).The news story this comes from are as followsMavel and DC tried to copyright Super herosGW tried to copyright Space MarineA software company tried to copyright Army BuilderSomeone tried to copyright Happy BirthdaySomeone else tried to copyright the 5 go-o-old rings part of 12 days of christmasMicrosift tried to copyright emoticonsand so on, often times succeedingAlthough you can't copyright air, it has to be specific, and only 1 type of thing. Trousers for example. A friend of mine had some good ones.Could do the word "the" that would be a pain in th.... BOLLOCKS! Copyright the concept of an invisible all powerful supernatural creator being Copyright all the left shoes and boots in the world Copyright the binary system Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePointingMan Posted February 17, 2010 Share Posted February 17, 2010 I'd copyright... The video games I plan on creating :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DZComposer Posted February 18, 2010 Share Posted February 18, 2010 Woah woah woah...There is a huge misunderstanding going on in this thread.Copyright is not a blanket term for "intellectual property" (I hate that term, as IP isn't tangible. I prefer the term "Intangible Assets," which is the accounting term).A copyright is a very specific type of intangible asset. The other common ones are patents and trademarks.Copyright is the right to solely distribute a creative work, IE songs, literature, software, etc. Any creative work you do is automatically copyrighted. You get more government help defending it if you register your copyright, however.Patents are the right to monopolize an invention or process. Sadly, the patent office in the US has been patenting software, which I firmly believe should stay in the realm of copyright. You MUST file a patent to protect your invention. The US has a unique 1st-to-invent law, meaning if you can prove that an invention was not first invented by the filer, a patent can be voided. In the EU, it is a first-to-file system, meaning if someone else patents your idea before you do, you're screwed.Trademarks are the right to exclusively use a phrase, symbol, sound, etc. Trade marks are similar to copyright, enforcement wise. If you use the mark in business, you have claim to it if someone else tries to. But, you get more government help if you register the trademark. The Registered Symbol, ®, denotes a registered trademark. Falsely using it is a crime. The Trade Mark symbol, ™, means the mark is claimed, but not registered. A Service Mark, ?, is basically a trademark for services. There is one caveat with trademarks (US law): If you don't use it, you lose it.You Can't copyright air. The closest thing for air would be a patent.Marvel and DC didn't copyright the term Superhero, they Trademarked it. As far as the birthday song, it is currently owned by Warner Music Group. Note that only the lyrics to the song are copyrighted, the tune is public domain, and is called "Good Morning to You". In the EU, the copyright will expire in 2016, provided the ACTA doesn't change that. In the US, the year is 2030! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest FoXXX Posted February 18, 2010 Share Posted February 18, 2010 Woah woah woah...There is a huge misunderstanding going on in this thread.Copyright is not a blanket term for "intellectual property" (I hate that term, as IP isn't tangible. I prefer the term "Intangible Assets," which is the accounting term).A copyright is a very specific type of intangible asset. The other common ones are patents and trademarks.Copyright is the right to solely distribute a creative work, IE songs, literature, software, etc. Any creative work you do is automatically copyrighted. You get more government help defending it if you register your copyright, however.Patents are the right to monopolize an invention or process. Sadly, the patent office in the US has been patenting software, which I firmly believe should stay in the realm of copyright. You MUST file a patent to protect your invention. The US has a unique 1st-to-invent law, meaning if you can prove that an invention was not first invented by the filer, a patent can be voided. In the EU, it is a first-to-file system, meaning if someone else patents your idea before you do, you're screwed.Trademarks are the right to exclusively use a phrase, symbol, sound, etc. Trade marks are similar to copyright, enforcement wise. If you use the mark in business, you have claim to it if someone else tries to. But, you get more government help if you register the trademark. The Registered Symbol, ®, denotes a registered trademark. Falsely using it is a crime. The Trade Mark symbol, ™, means the mark is claimed, but not registered. A Service Mark, ?, is basically a trademark for services.You Can't copyright air. The closest thing for air would be a patent.Marvel and DC didn't copyright the term Super Hero, they Trademarked it. As far as the birthday song, it is currently owned by Warner Music Group. Note that only the lyrics to the song are copyrighted, the tune is public domain, and is called "Good Morning to You". In the EU, the copyright will expire in 2016, provided the ACTA doesn't change that. In the US, the year is 2030!lol :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabre Posted February 18, 2010 Author Share Posted February 18, 2010 Woah woah woah...There is a huge misunderstanding going on in this thread.Copyright is not a blanket term for "intellectual property" (I hate that term, as IP isn't tangible. I prefer the term "Intangible Assets," which is the accounting term).A copyright is a very specific type of intangible asset. The other common ones are patents and trademarks.Copyright is the right to solely distribute a creative work, IE songs, literature, software, etc. Any creative work you do is automatically copyrighted. You get more government help defending it if you register your copyright, however.Patents are the right to monopolize an invention or process. Sadly, the patent office in the US has been patenting software, which I firmly believe should stay in the realm of copyright. You MUST file a patent to protect your invention. The US has a unique 1st-to-invent law, meaning if you can prove that an invention was not first invented by the filer, a patent can be voided. In the EU, it is a first-to-file system, meaning if someone else patents your idea before you do, you're screwed.Trademarks are the right to exclusively use a phrase, symbol, sound, etc. Trade marks are similar to copyright, enforcement wise. If you use the mark in business, you have claim to it if someone else tries to. But, you get more government help if you register the trademark. The Registered Symbol, ®, denotes a registered trademark. Falsely using it is a crime. The Trade Mark symbol, ™, means the mark is claimed, but not registered. A Service Mark, ?, is basically a trademark for services. There is one caveat with trademarks (US law): If you don't use it, you lose it.You Can't copyright air. The closest thing for air would be a patent.Marvel and DC didn't copyright the term Superhero, they Trademarked it. As far as the birthday song, it is currently owned by Warner Music Group. Note that only the lyrics to the song are copyrighted, the tune is public domain, and is called "Good Morning to You". In the EU, the copyright will expire in 2016, provided the ACTA doesn't change that. In the US, the year is 2030!And Data from startrek isn't really that fast computer wise. It's implided with the topic. Wether you say copyright, trademark, paintented or whatever, the technical issues are not the point, but yes, they trademarked it, or tried to. It's still BS. It's still people trying to claim public stuff, be it ideas, language, things, and say "This is mine, you can't have it."Also, just because you TM something, doesn't mean you get roylties when people use them, or people need your permission to use them, which is the joke of the thread. We COULD talk about the specifics of this, but that involves getting political, as it's the american system of enforcment and the ability to claim anything as yours that's the fault with the system. However, we can't talk about here because of the rules.For your convienience, the copy pasted post I made, again, without all the jargonThe big news this week came from the world of boardgames, but is relivent to us computer gamers if your into the copyright debate. Here's the short verson.Games Workshop made a popular board game website pull down all of it's free player aids and tried to stop people using the term 'Space Marine'. Yes, GW is trying to claim copyright on the term Space Marine. That's like when marvel and DC tried to copyright super hero. Later, another company who makes a speardsheet program for making army lists (think of it as a way of planing your RTS build order or a character planner for a RPG game) tried to claim copyright to the term 'Army Builder', which again, is like copyrighting DVD collection or Game Database. This led to a cring worthy interview on the (rubbish) board game podcast D6 Generation as the database people (who are also the shows sponser) did an interview to defend their possition.It's worth a listen if only to see how these companies try and justify it to themselves. (also note how GW and Lone Wolf don't sue each other, only the fans/ bedroom programers)http://www.thed6generation.com/index.php?post_id=581439 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Krystal Posted February 18, 2010 Share Posted February 18, 2010 Fine... I copyright thinking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kursed Posted February 18, 2010 Share Posted February 18, 2010 Fine... I copyright thinking. Unless your a telepath how could you possibly keep that copyrighted?I guess I'd copyright some of my fc'sdid you know anything you make as a american that's your idea is copyrighted? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabre Posted February 18, 2010 Author Share Posted February 18, 2010 Unless your a telepath how could you possibly keep that copyrighted?I guess I'd copyright some of my fc'sdid you know anything you make as a american that's your idea is copyrighted?Yep. The problem is when people try to claim public things as theres. There's a guy who claims to own the moon for example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DZComposer Posted February 18, 2010 Share Posted February 18, 2010 And Data from startrek isn't really that fast computer wise. It's implided with the topic. Wether you say copyright, trademark, paintented or whatever, the technical issues are not the point, but yes, they trademarked it, or tried to. It's still BS. It's still people trying to claim public stuff, be it ideas, language, things, and say "This is mine, you can't have it."Also, just because you TM something, doesn't mean you get roylties when people use them, or people need your permission to use them, which is the joke of the thread. We COULD talk about the specifics of this, but that involves getting political, as it's the american system of enforcment and the ability to claim anything as yours that's the fault with the system. However, we can't talk about here because of the rules.In that case, I copyright improperly using the word copyright. Pay up, Sucker! :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabre Posted February 19, 2010 Author Share Posted February 19, 2010 I'll wait for the cease and desisist letter, get my money to pay you with. :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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