The Pacific

[Star Fox Runner]

I know this is borderline political as it is about a war, but I will post anyway.

I just got done watching the first episode of a new miniseries on HBO called The Pacific. It looks to be a very good series. It acts as a companion piece to Band of Brothers, so if any of you saw that and enjoyed it, you will enjoy this.

The show is graphic however, it IS about the Pacific Theater of WWII, and if you know anything about it, it was brutal.

[Guest FoXXX]

I know this is borderline political as it is about a war, but I will post anyway.

I just got done watching the first episode of a new miniseries on HBO called The Pacific. It looks to be a very good series. It acts as a companion piece to Band of Brothers, so if any of you saw that and enjoyed it, you will enjoy this.

The show is graphic however, it IS about the Pacific Theater of WWII, and if you know anything about it, it was brutal.

Lol, my parents just finished watching Band of Brothers...

[Sabre]

I know this is borderline political as it is about a war, but I will post anyway.

I just got done watching the first episode of a new miniseries on HBO called The Pacific. It looks to be a very good series. It acts as a companion piece to Band of Brothers, so if any of you saw that and enjoyed it, you will enjoy this.

The show is graphic however, it IS about the Pacific Theater of WWII, and if you know anything about it, it was brutal.

It's where WW2 series go to die. Medal of Honour, Call of Duty...

Band of Brothers was great, except when it did the usual yanky jingoism and makes every other nation look like pillocks, but handily gloss over the negative thoughts of Americans in WW2.

Eg. My granddad used to say to stay behind them because they shoot anything in front of them.

[Vy'drach]

Funny you say that, Sabre, my grandfather was almost killed in WW2 by British fighter pilots, they actually killed a few people near him, and when he helped someone return fire with the one .50 that was still out (They were breaking up camp), their commander got on them later about shooting at allies, and asked him why they did it, and he looked him dead in the eyes and said, "During training they said the enemy was any son of a bitch that is shooting at you, and those sons of bitches were shooting at us."

[Guest FoXXX]

It's where WW2 series go to die. Medal of Honour, Call of Duty...

Band of Brothers was great, except when it did the usual yanky jingoism and makes every other nation look like pillocks, but handily gloss over the negative thoughts of Americans in WW2.

Eg. My granddad used to say to stay behind them because they shoot anything in front of them.

Nazis were kicking your asses all over Europe.

Funny you say that, Sabre, my grandfather was almost killed in WW2 by British fighter pilots, they actually killed a few people near him, and when he helped someone return fire with the one .50 that was still out (They were breaking up camp), their commander got on them later about shooting at allies, and asked him why they did it, and he looked him dead in the eyes and said, "During training they said the enemy was any son of a bitch that is shooting at you, and those sons of bitches were shooting at us."

Damn. :o

[Star Fox Runner]

Nazis were kicking your asses all over Europe.

Knock it off. This is the reason I almost didn't post this thread.

There is no way we could have done all of that on our own. Without the help of the British and the other Allies, we would have lost.

In fact, for 9 months after Pearl Harbor, we were getting our asses kicked all over the Pacific by the Japanese until Guadalcanal. I don't like it when people think that America is invincible, because we aren't.

Maybe I should ask an Admin to lock this. This is turning into flamebait.

[Guest FoXXX]

Knock it off. This is the reason I almost didn't post this thread.

There is no way we could have done all of that on our own. Without the help of the British and the other Allies, we would have lost.

In fact, for 9 months after Pearl Harbor, we were getting our asses kicked all over the Pacific by the Japanese until Guadalcanal. I don't like it when people think that America is invincible, because we aren't.

Maybe I should ask an Admin to lock this. This is turning into flamebait.

You're right, I'm sorry.

[Asper Sarnoff]

That sounds interesting. Might just give it a good look once it gets reaches the cold, hostile edge of the world that I like to call home.

You're right, I'm sorry.

Good. That comment was most unnecesary.

I and Julius had a discussion about the excact same thing over PM during the weekend. Fact of the matter is that neither the US or the allies in Europe could have pulled trough like it did alone.

The US couldn't have achieved victory both in the pacific and against the Axis powers in Europe. And if it wasn't for the americans invaluable support after the war, Europe would have been the same smoldering wreck as it was after the first world war, and things would have started all over again.

[Vy'drach]

I was just merely saying that friendly fire, isn't an "American thing," nor is it a "British'" or "Russian thing," it is a "These soldiers are just kids in a strange land, surrounded by people who want to shoot them, they see something move, and they base it off its either them or me, and act accordingly" thing.

[Matt Macdowel]

I know this is borderline political as it is about a war, but I will post anyway.

I just got done watching the first episode of a new miniseries on HBO called The Pacific. It looks to be a very good series. It acts as a companion piece to Band of Brothers, so if any of you saw that and enjoyed it, you will enjoy this.

The show is graphic however, it IS about the Pacific Theater of WWII, and if you know anything about it, it was brutal.

i wanna see this so bad! isn't tom hawnks in it?

@asper i belive u are mstaking you see americans were involed in the war before parul harbor. ever heard of the flying tigers in china?

[Vy'drach]

There was also our supplying Britain with arms and escorting their ships to protect them from German U-boat attacks when we were supposed to be neutral.

[Asper Sarnoff]

@asper i belive u are mstaking you see americans were involed in the war before parul harbor. ever heard of the flying tigers in china?

The 1th American Volunteer Group? They first saw combat about two weeks after the attack at Pearl Harbor.

There have been several ocasions on which volunteers have fought in a war where their country didn't, even norwegians participated on finnish side in the Finland war, while Norway itself was strictly neutral.

As all historicans or military experts will tell you. What volunteers does in war does not reflect their countrys standpoint. American didn't enter any war untill after Japans attack on Pearl Harbor, at which point they declared war on Japan, and shortly after the Axis powers declared war on them.

[Matt Macdowel]

The 1th American Volunteer Group? They first saw combat about two weeks after the attack at Pearl Harbor.

There have been several ocasions on which volunteers have fought in a war where their country didn't, even norwegians participated on finnish side in the Finland war, while Norway itself was strictly neutral.

As all historicans or military experts will tell you. What volunteers does in war does not reflect their countrys standpoint. American didn't enter any war untill after Japans attack on Pearl Harbor, at which point they declared war on Japan, and shortly after the Axis powers declared war on them.

i know but the first voltuner group happen before peral harbor! and if i recall some where china ask for The uniter states for help so they sent some aircraft pilots or something!

[Asper Sarnoff]

i know but the first voltuner group happen before peral harbor! and if i recall some where china ask for The uniter states for help so they sent some aircraft pilots or something!

Yes they did. But the pilots never saw action before after Pearl Harbor. For them it could just as well have been a vacation with the odd flight training session thrown in.

[Sabre]

Does it matter? Really? You might as well be chanting "USA USA We're number 1!!!" then kick over some bins.

However, whatever version you prefer to think of, I doubt the other nations were bumbling idiots waiting for Tommy testosterone to walk in, go all one ten man army and save the day like they did in the original band of bronders. That kind of stuff reminds me of Churchill, The Hollywood Years.

[Matt Macdowel]

Yes they did. But the pilots never saw action before after Pearl Harbor. For them it could just as well have been a vacation with the odd flight training session thrown in.

explain that to the history channel!

[Vy'drach]

explain that to the history channel!

You believe everything you see on tv?

[Star Fox Runner]

Does it matter? Really? You might as well be chanting "USA USA We're number 1!!!" then kick over some bins.

However, whatever version you prefer to think of, I doubt the other nations were bumbling idiots waiting for Tommy testosterone to walk in, go all one ten man army and save the day like they did in the original band of bronders. That kind of stuff reminds me of Churchill, The Hollywood Years.

I never said that the other countries were idiots, I was saying that each country couldn't have done it on their own. It took one collective action from us all to win, the Americans, the British, French, Dutch, and every other country involved.

The point was we all needed each other to win the war. In both the Pacific and Europe. If America went in on it's own, we would have been destroyed, seeing how the Americans got their asses kicked at the Philippines, Pearl Harbor, and Kassarine Pass.

In Band of Brothers, it didn't portray Easy Company as a ten man army that won the war single handedly, it was just a single story that focused on one group in particular throughout the whole war. There were hundreds of companies and divisions in the war, they were just one sect out of a whole bunch.

[Matt Macdowel]

You believe everything you see on tv?

if its the history channel yes if its ghost adventures yes!

[Vy'drach]

Remember that history is written by the victors. It is a collection of assumptions, exaggerations, half-truths, one sided testimonies, corrupted data, intentional deception, and personal opinions.

[Matt Macdowel]

Remember that history is written by the victors. It is a collection of assumptions, exaggerations, half-truths, one sided testimonies, corrupted data, intentional deception, and personal opinions.

O RLY! so are you telling me is alexander the great claimed how easily defeated the persains were or if 300 are fake? and yet no comment on ghost adventures?

[Vy'drach]

I have never seen ghost adventures, never even heard of it until now, actually, and I did not understand what you were saying about Alexander the Great, but it is funny you bring him and the 300 Spartans up, as I am part Greek, and to be more specific, my family came from Spartan land.

If you are assuming that 300 was historically accurate in any way, you are sadly mistaken. Events happen, but the truth, cause, and exact happenings of them get lost and muddied. There were 300 Spartans there that held the Persians back for a time, but what really devastated the Persian forces is when the thousands of Grecian soldiers from all corners of Greece got there, along with their navies.

[Matt Macdowel]

I have never seen ghost adventures, never even heard of it until now, actually, and I did not understand what you were saying about Alexander the Great, but it is funny you bring him and the 300 Spartans up, as I am part Greek, and to be more specific, my family came from Spartan land.

If you are assuming that 300 was historically accurate in any way, you are sadly mistaken. Events happen, but the truth, cause, and exact happenings of them get lost and muddied. There were 300 Spartans there that held the Persians back for a time, but what really devastated the Persian forces is when the thousands of Grecian soldiers from all corners of Greece got there, along with their navies.

this friday at 9 go to travel channel and watch it its really good and scary its like Ghost hunters but better and 300 thanks for saying its real!

[Mr. Krystal]

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