Stormtroopers or Clones

[Kursed]

It's amazing how much the clones actually changed  in the shift of the Republic to the Empire.

so which side is better?

I say the clones their better trained better armed  and more importantly better lead.

Also I belive most of the stormtroopers  are normal people which makes them even worse.

[Asper Sarnoff]

By far the clone troopers. It is canon to the Star Wars universe that after the contract between the galactic republic/the empire and the cloners of Kamino expired, they reenewed the contract again with the considerably cheaper, but less experienced cloners of Arkania. This of course had a negative effect on the quality of the clones they produced.

The Republic clone troopers, on the other hand, are seemingly much better shots, taking down large numbers of battle droids (which are also seemingly suffering from the stormtrooper effect) and dozens of Jedi. It is possible that this phenomenon could be partially explained in-universe by the accuracy of Jango Fett, and after spending nearly three years in combat; facing all types of foes, which would be passed down to his clones, but not to the stormtroopers (with the exception of the 501st), who by the Galactic Civil War were almost all derived from recruits.

Perhaps the only true explanation (but sadly out-of-universe), is the fact that in most of the sources they were among the "good guys." This can be seen in Jedi Knight: Jedi Academy, when Stormtroopers under the Mind Trick have better accuracy than regular Stormtroopers.

One more recent explanation occurs within the novel Republic Commando: True Colors. During the novel, it is stated by Mereel that the cloning contract between the Republic and Kamino would end by the end of the war. This would cause the Republic to search for alternative cloning sources. It is clearly stated within the novel that Arkanian cloning technology is faster, but the overall quality is significantly lower than Kaminoan standards. Also, during a test conducted by the Kaminoans concerning second generation cloning, the overall quality of the clone was inferior to their earlier designs. This information was obtained by Null Arc Trooper Mereel. Further proof to back up this theory was shown in the novel's sequel, Order 66. By the time of the Battle of Coruscant, the clone army was running desperately low on combat ready troops. During the battle, Palpatine unleashed a massive army of reserve clone troopers being held on the moon of Centax 2. These clones helped turn the tide of the battle, but Mandalorians Kal Skirata and Walon Vau noticed the clones significantly lower accuracy and combat training, as well as their apparent lack of knowledge of their Mandalorian heritage. These clones were created through Spaarti cloning technology. However, being cloned in less than a year and then flash-trained, these clones were little better than meatbags to be thrown at the enemy in overwhelming numbers.

Source: http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Stormtrooper_effect

[Kursed]

so if kaminoians still existed with their jango fett clones and you were part of the New republic would you  get a contract with the Kaminoians?(I'm just curious as one of my new republic plots for a roleplay included the old clones as the troopers for the new republic.

and personnaly i like the clones better than the stormies  don't know why  i Just do.

Now I actually played a mission  in the campain of starwars battle front2 where you are a stormtrooper facing the phase 1 clones i will tell you I GOT MY BUTT HANDED TO ME ON EASY!!!! the clones are far Superior  the Dark trooper doesn't even compare to the jet trooper clone.

-Video change.

[Asper Sarnoff]

so if kaminoians still existed with their jango fett clones and you were part of the New republic would you  get a contract with the Kaminoians?(I'm just curious as one of my new republic plots for a roleplay included the old clones as the troopers for the new republic.

and personnaly i like the clones better than the stormies  don't know why  i Just do.

Naturally would they hold on to their veterans for as long as possible. But as the casualities of maintaining an empire and rooting out its enemies took its tool, they were inevitable watered out by the lesser new clones.

The exception to this was elite fighting groups, such as the 501th legion, Vaders fist. Which were made up almost entirely of tough veterans, which could train the relative small number of new recruits up to their standards.

BTW, after I've completed a roleplay I and Fira have in the works, a Star Wars/Star Fox crossover will be in the works. You might be interested in that one.

[Kursed]

Naturally would they hold on to their veterans for as long as possible. But as the casualities of maintaining an empire and rooting out its enemies took its tool, they were inevitable watered out by the lesser new clones.

The exception to this was elite fighting groups, such as the 501th legion, Vaders fist. Which were made up almost entirely of tough veterans, which could train the relative small number of new recruits up to their standards.

BTW, after I've completed a roleplay I and Fira have in the works, a Star Wars/Star Fox crossover will be in the works. You might be interested in that one.

I will definitly Pm me for that one I've done many  normal star wars roleplays.

I changed the video by the wya

I knew the 501st was mostly made of clones.

[Asper Sarnoff]

Yeah I've played that game as well. On normal, the only mission I struggled with was inside the Death Star.

How am I supposed to take over the enemies only spawning point with almost no support from my fellow troopers?

I'll inform you when I've developed the idea a little further. It's basically anthro characters, including Starfox, in the Star Wars universe. Might end up placing it at the timeline of the old republic, thousands of years before the movies, to give us some more room to play with. But again, not sure yet.

[Kursed]

Yeah I've played that game as well. On normal, the only mission I struggled with was inside the Death Star.

How am I supposed to take over the enemies only spawning point with almost no support from my fellow troopers?

I'll inform you when I've developed the idea a little further. It's basically anthro characters, including Starfox, in the Star Wars universe. Might end up placing it at the timeline of the old republic, thousands of years before the movies, to give us some more room to play with. But again, not sure yet.

So let me guess the clones are Dogs instead of humans?

[Guest Julius Quasar]

By far the clone troopers. It is canon to the Star Wars universe that after the contract between the galactic republic/the empire and the cloners of Kamino expired, they reenewed the contract again with the considerably cheaper, but less experienced cloners of Arkania. This of course had a negative effect on the quality of the clones they produced.

Source: http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Stormtrooper_effect

^ This

[Asper Sarnoff]

So let me guess the clones are Dogs instead of humans?

Most probably if it is set in that period of time. As stated, I might consider laying it all closer to the events of KoTOR.

[Kursed]

Most probably if it is set in that period of time. As stated, I might consider laying it all closer to the events of KoTOR.

personnly i'd  prefure that we'd deal with the actual species and  just let starfox be thought of as a undiscovered species or something like that perhaps i don't know.

[Guest DRL]

BTW, after I've completed a roleplay I and Fira have in the works, a Star Wars/Star Fox crossover will be in the works. You might be interested in that one.

Oh, oh! And James takes out the Vader helmet and says: "Fox, I am your father!"

... He,he, ok, It sounds interesting, I think I would like to take part of some SF/SW crossover.

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O-T:

I think that the Clones would win because they are better trained and organized, and have a better cause (althrough the last one could be something I like to think, rather than a fact.)

[ThePointingMan]

I haven't watched much of starwars, but in battlefront two, some of the storm troopers have jet packs, and crazy electrical guns! They get my vote!

[Kursed]

I haven't watched much of starwars, but in battlefront two, some of the storm troopers have jet packs, and crazy electrical guns! They get my vote!

the clones get jet troopers too and their jetpacks work much better than the darktroopers one.

[ThePointingMan]

But do they get cool lightningy laser cannons? I don't think so! Also Jengo is on the storms side and he's badrical.

[Kursed]

But do they get cool lightningy laser cannons? I don't think so! Also Jengo is on the storms side and he's badrical.

yeah but I like the Emp launcher bettter than the short range eletric thing.

and jango is dead. and actually jango was on the side of the clones at first considering they were cloned From him in reality all the clones are like Jango's cousins or something.

[Matt Macdowel]

i say storm troopers because in BF2 starwars u crush a clone troop rebellion!

[Kursed]

yes but those clone troopers cost more than stormtroopers. (you pay for what you get)  That was probably the hardest mission ever for me.

[Matt Macdowel]

yes but those clone troopers cost more than stormtroopers. (you pay for what you get)  That was probably the hardest mission ever for me.

thats true cause when u have a diecotr in charge of an entire galaxy i think everything is free for strom troopers.

[Asper Sarnoff]

I think it's wrong to base ones knowledge of Star Wars upon what one saw in a game such as the Battlefront games.

While undoubtly good games, they are heavily influenced by balancing, and everything apart from the background story, and even that partially, should be taken with a large pinch of salt.

[Kursed]

I think it's wrong to base ones knowledge of Star Wars upon what one saw in a game such as the Battlefront games.

While undoubtly good games, they are heavily influenced by balancing, and everything apart from the background story, and even that partially, should be taken with a large pinch of salt.

I'd have to agree with you on that one.

[Matt Macdowel]

I think it's wrong to base ones knowledge of Star Wars upon what one saw in a game such as the Battlefront games.

While undoubtly good games, they are heavily influenced by balancing, and everything apart from the background story, and even that partially, should be taken with a large pinch of salt.

good point but it still went with the movies