Weapons of choice: Ranged weapons

[ThePointingMan]

Ranged weapons are for wuzzies. If given the option, I'll always pick close combat.

But your not given the option.  :lol:

[Guest Julius Quasar]

Pistol and machine gun.

[Matt Macdowel]

yeah and snipers started back in 1700's when the word snipe came from india and if you could kill that bird witch was preety hard u get the name sniper.

but snipers are high power guns and 1 shot 1 kill.

[Mr. Foxer]

Ranged weapons are for wuzzies. If given the option, I'll always pick close combat.

Too risky.

[Vy'drach]

yeah and snipers started back in 1700's when the word snipe came from india and if you could kill that bird witch was preety hard u get the name sniper.

but snipers are high power guns and 1 shot 1 kill.

All snipers were is marksmen, but they used standard rifles. Sniper rifles weren't invented until about the 60's.

[Asper Sarnoff]

But your not given the option. 

*In dark, earth-shaking voice* "There's ALWAYS a choice..."

[Matt Macdowel]

All snipers were is marksmen, but they used standard rifles. Sniper rifles weren't invented until about the 60's.

no wrong again

in WW2 we had rifles such as

The spring field

the pps 50 (it was german i think)

the scope arkishtah (japan)

and that russian sniper rifle only giving to the best

but back in the old days there  were snipers in fact the first account i believe not 100% sure was in the american revoultion where this guy climb into a try and snipe a general. and kill him but he got shot at by the birtish and diead.

[Asper Sarnoff]

no wrong again

in WW2 we had rifles such as

The spring field

the pps 50 (it was german i think)

the scope arkishtah (japan)

and that russian sniper rifle only giving to the best

but back in the old days there  were snipers in fact the first account i believe not 100% sure was in the american revoultion where this guy climb into a try and snipe a general. and kill him but he got shot at by the birtish and diead.

Those were ordinary rifles Matt. To be honest, Vydrach is one of the people I've meet with the deepest knowledge of weapons, and I'll take his word over your in this matter.

[Matt Macdowel]

Those were ordinary rifles Matt. To be honest, Vydrach is one of the people I've meet with the deepest knowledge of weapons, and I'll take his word over your in this matter.

:facepalm:

[Vy'drach]

no wrong again

in WW2 we had rifles such as

The spring field

the pps 50 (it was german i think)

the scope arkishtah (japan)

and that russian sniper rifle only giving to the best

but back in the old days there  were snipers in fact the first account i believe not 100% sure was in the american revoultion where this guy climb into a try and snipe a general. and kill him but he got shot at by the birtish and diead.

The 1903 Springfield was a copy of the German Mauser bolt-action, and the Springfield served as the standard infantry rifle of America in WWI (We actually have a 1903 Springfield, with a sporting stock, unfortunately. Thing kicks like a damned mule, by the way. By far the most recoil out of any of our guns).

The Germans didn't have a rifle with PPS, they used the term Gewehr (Which is the German word for Rifle) *Insert number here*, or Karabiner 98, which means Carbine, which is a shortened version of a regular rifle. (The Mauser Karabiner 98K is just the Gewehr 98 shortened, with the bolt turned down to make it more manageable in tighter spaces).

You are likely thinking of the Russian PPSh-41 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PPSh-41), which was itself a copy of a Finnish gun, the Suomi (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suomi_M-31_SMG)

The Japanese rifle is actually called the Arisaka, or actually, the __th year (There was 30th, 30th carbine, 35th, 38th, 38th Carbine, 44th year), the Arisaka design remaining virtually unchanged since it's creation, in 1887. They did have something called the Sniper's Rifle, Type 97, but it was nothing more than a standard Arisaka with a flimsy wire bipod that looks like you could make it from a clothes hangar, and it still fired the under-powered 6.5mm round that didn't posses long range or stopping power.

And the Russian Rifle you are speaking of is likely the Mosin Nagant, which was designed by Russian Artillery Colonel Sergei Ivanovich Mosin, who designed the bolt and receiver, and Emile Nagant, who was Belgian, and designed the magazine system. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mosin_Nagant)

Those rifles were all standard issue infantry rifles. The only thing they did to turn them into sniper weapons was put a scope on them, they were not designed to stand apart from other rifles, just the large barrels and powerful rounds gives them great long range accuracy and stopping power.

Those were ordinary rifles Matt. To be honest, Vydrach is one of the people I've meet with the deepest knowledge of weapons, and I'll take his word over your in this matter.

And thanks for having faith in me, Asper.

[Geo Stelar]

Vydrach - weapons knowledge expert

[Vy'drach]

Vydrach - weapons knowledge expert

No, just a redneck with too many gun books. Drill Sergeant dad doesn't hurt either.

[Matt Macdowel]

No there is a sniper rifle call pp something i can't remember its name i go back on cod waw and find it. But i think this german im not sure though.

[Asper Sarnoff]

No there is a sniper rifle call pp something i can't remember its name i go back on cod waw and find it. But i think this german im not sure though.

You see Matt, that's why almost no one believes you when you get into discussions like this. Because you don't really know what you're talking about, you just retell and twist things you've heard others talk about.

[Matt Macdowel]

You see Matt, that's why almost no one believes you when you get into discussions like this. Because you don't really know what you're talking about, you just retell and twist things you've heard others talk about.

ASPER.. i know right where  you live and i played w@W and yes those weapones and waw are real.

[Asper Sarnoff]

ASPER.. i know right where  you live and i played w@W and yes those weapones and waw are real.

Are you implying a physical treat against another member of the site?

[Matt Macdowel]

Are you implying a physical treat against another member of the site?

treat? what do you mean a treat?

and i was being sarcistic.

Don't tan my hide please!!!

and if you mean by threat no i don't do things like that and i was only kidding around!!!

[Asper Sarnoff]

treat? what do you mean a treat?

and i was being sarcistic.

Don't tan my hide please!!!

and if you mean by threat no i don't do things like that and i was only kidding around!!!

Next time I see you making a threat against another member, intentional or not, I won't let you get away with it. Is that clear?

[Matt Macdowel]

Next time I see you making a threat against another member, intentional or not, I won't let you get away with it. Is that clear?

i wasn't making a threat

and yes you made it clear

*looks down in shame*

[Vy'drach]

No there is a sniper rifle call pp something i can't remember its name i go back on cod waw and find it. But i think this german im not sure though.

Ah, you mean the PTRS-41. That is a Russian anti-tank gun, not a sniper rifle. The fact that World at War used it as one is an example of how unrealistic Call of Duty is getting. Know how I say looking to Call of Duty for realistic weapon capabilities is like looking to Teletubbies for the meaning of life? Well, exhibit A right there.

The statistics of the PTRS-41 are:

Length: 86.61 inches

Weight unloaded: 46lbs 3 oz

Barrel: 48.00 in, 8 grooves, right hand twist

Magazine: 5-round clip-loaded box

Muzzle velocity: 3320 ft/sec

Armor Penetration 25mm at 500m

They fire a 14.5 x 114mm shell (the .50BMG is 12.7 x 99mm, and the MG and Sniper round the Russian's use is 12.7 x 108, so you can see the size difference)

That is not a sniper weapon, it is actually illegal to use weapons classified as "anti-material" against human targets (The .50BMG snipers actually fall under this category, no matter which country uses it, but it is over-looked, last I heard anyway, they may of repealed the .50's classification as an anti-material round).

Here's a video of the PTRS-41 being fired, look at the size. There is a reason people using those weapons had bodyguards armed with rifles or SMG's, because they are all but useless against human enemies, as they are near impossible to maneuver, and you need to be prone to fire them.

[Matt Macdowel]

wait if its anti tank then why is it shape like a rifle and have a scope on it? and its 1 shot to.

[Vy'drach]

Because it's an anti-tank rifle, and it has a scope so you don't need to be near the tank and risk getting killed, as tanks usually come in with infantry. And it is a 5 shot semi-auto rifle. It was NOT meant to be used against people, and it is NOT a sniper rifle.

[Matt Macdowel]

Because it's an anti-tank rifle, and it has a scope so you don't need to be near the tank and risk getting killed, as tanks usually come in with infantry. And it is a 5 shot semi-auto rifle. It was NOT meant to be used against people, and it is NOT a sniper rifle.

OH i see i didn't know  ww2 had that kind of techonlgy boy did waw use it the wrong way then, + looking at now it does seem to by a anti tank rifle but how does it take out the ranks like what kinda of ammountion does it use???

[Vy'drach]

Just high powered rounds, I told you, it fires 14.5 x 114mm shells. They may be specially made armour piercing with a dart inside, but I doubt it, as tank armour back then was nothing but extra metal.

[Matt Macdowel]

Just high powered rounds, I told you, it fires 14.5 x 114mm shells. They may be specially made armour piercing with a dart inside, but I doubt it, as tank armour back then was nothing but extra metal.

you sure know your stuff about ww2

but when did snipers begin???