Geo Stelar Posted May 28, 2010 Share Posted May 28, 2010 Like in One Winged Angel's topic, only on Pronunciation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest FoXXX Posted May 28, 2010 Share Posted May 28, 2010 Somestimes :trollface: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kursed Posted May 28, 2010 Share Posted May 28, 2010 with foreign words only. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dublinthefox Posted May 28, 2010 Share Posted May 28, 2010 with foreign words only.same here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest DRL Posted May 28, 2010 Share Posted May 28, 2010 with foreign words only.Yeah, althrough once I know themI can immitate the accents :cool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
"User" Posted May 28, 2010 Share Posted May 28, 2010 Occasionally for more complicated words that don't get used in everyday conversation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dermot Posted May 28, 2010 Share Posted May 28, 2010 I studied the pronunciation guide, and pronounced Eyjafjallajökull correctly the first time, and every time since. :3 I mean, I've mispronounced some words the first time, but I'm easy to correct. But sometimes I'm corrected on words that actually have a valid alternate pronunciation that I'm more familiar with - I encounter this the most with "fetish", since I first always encountered it pronounced like "feat-ish", but the rest of my family is only familiar with "fett-ish". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milkyway64 Posted May 28, 2010 Share Posted May 28, 2010 Foreign words and odd words that ignore the basic rules of the english language that I've only read, not heard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew McCloud Posted May 28, 2010 Share Posted May 28, 2010 Ah, this is my kinda topic B)As a phoneticist, I love this stuff. Sounds are fascinating to me and, more likely than not, you encounter rare ones in foreign languages all the time-- though, you may not know it.If you're familiar with the International Phonetic Alphabet (IPA) you know what I mean. Look it up on Wiki if y'like-- they actually have most audible files for the different indexed sounds and some of them are very interesting. ^.^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dermot Posted May 28, 2010 Share Posted May 28, 2010 Ah, this is my kinda topic B)As a phoneticist, I love this stuff. Sounds are fascinating to me and, more likely than not, you encounter rare ones in foreign languages all the time-- though, you may not know it.If you're familiar with the International Phonetic Alphabet (IPA) you know what I mean. Look it up on Wiki if y'like-- they actually have most audible files for the different indexed sounds and some of them are very interesting. ^.^?? ?w??n?? no? ??ni?i? ??bæ?? ðæ?, ?s??i. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EazyIN Posted May 29, 2010 Share Posted May 29, 2010 I dnot maek pornunicatoin msitakes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Macdowel Posted May 29, 2010 Share Posted May 29, 2010 Never Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EazyIN Posted May 29, 2010 Share Posted May 29, 2010 NeverYa Rly... :oops: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Macdowel Posted May 29, 2010 Share Posted May 29, 2010 Ya Rly... these explain what i would do if anyone continues to disagree with me. (jk) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EazyIN Posted May 29, 2010 Share Posted May 29, 2010 these explain what i would do if anyone continues to disagree with me. (jk)How 'bout a nice can a' -Topic-Stlil on mitsakse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew McCloud Posted May 29, 2010 Share Posted May 29, 2010 ?? ?w??n?? no? ??ni?i? ??bæ?? ðæ?, ?s??i.Haha, good for you. Though I must ask-- are you Bri-ish? XD Because that doesn't sound quite as American. Especially the glottals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dermot Posted May 29, 2010 Share Posted May 29, 2010 Haha, good for you. Though I must ask-- are you Bri-ish? XD Because that doesn't sound quite as American. Especially the glottals.No, my T's are only glottal when they're final, but I tend to release the T [t] at the end of a phrase. I flap [?] T's and D's at the beginning of unstressed syllables. It all depends on the sandhi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew McCloud Posted May 29, 2010 Share Posted May 29, 2010 No, my T's are only glottal when they're final, but I tend to release the T [t] at the end of a phrase. I flap [?] T's and D's at the beginning of unstressed syllables. It all depends on the sandhi.I can see that, yeah. Well that's cool, but what really peaks my interest is the Low-Back Rounded vowel in your 'sir'. Most American English doesn't use that. I could see you using [a] in there, but that has me perplexed. Do you use that in more places as well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest FoXXX Posted May 29, 2010 Share Posted May 29, 2010 I studied the pronunciation guide, and pronounced Eyjafjallajökull correctly the first time, and every time since. :3 I mean, I've mispronounced some words the first time, but I'm easy to correct. But sometimes I'm corrected on words that actually have a valid alternate pronunciation that I'm more familiar with - I encounter this the most with "fetish", since I first always encountered it pronounced like "feat-ish", but the rest of my family is only familiar with "fett-ish".What the fuck :o Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dermot Posted May 29, 2010 Share Posted May 29, 2010 I can see that, yeah. Well that's cool, but what really peaks my interest is the Low-Back Rounded vowel in your 'sir'. Most American English doesn't use that. I could see you using [a] in there, but that has me perplexed. Do you use that in more places as well?The word is "sorry", not "sir". X3 And I rounded the vowel because my Rs tend to be labialized. It's assimilation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew McCloud Posted May 29, 2010 Share Posted May 29, 2010 The word is "sorry", not "sir". X3 And I rounded the vowel because my Rs tend to be labialized. It's assimilation.Ah, that makes more sense to me then. Neat though, I don't hear that pronunciation much, but it could be that you're from a particular region that I'm not used to hearing from, or just a part of your individual inventory For instance, due to my choral past and brushes with Irish, I tend to pronounce |i|, |o|, |e|, |u| without lowering them, even outside the presence of rhotics. (Seeing as most Amer. English pronunciations of |i| and |u| are actually the lower laxed versions with a |j| or |w| glide respectively.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dermot Posted May 29, 2010 Share Posted May 29, 2010 Ah, that makes more sense to me then. Neat though, I don't hear that pronunciation much, but it could be that you're from a particular region that I'm not used to hearing from, or just a part of your individual inventory For instance, due to my choral past and brushes with Irish, I tend to pronounce |i|, |o|, |e|, |u| without lowering them, even outside the presence of rhotics. (Seeing as most Amer. English pronunciations of |i| and |u| are actually the lower laxed versions with a |j| or |w| glide respectively.)My accent is pretty heterogeneous. Also, my /i/ tends to be distinctly tense and undiphthongal. Here is an example of my accent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mr. Mario Posted May 29, 2010 Share Posted May 29, 2010 *in slow motion*NNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNeeeeeeeeevvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvveeeeeeeeeeerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew McCloud Posted May 29, 2010 Share Posted May 29, 2010 My accent is pretty heterogeneous. Also, my /i/ tends to be distinctly tense and undiphthongal. Here is an example of my accent.My native haolë accent also comes through when I sing.Ah, there's the rub. XD I knew there was an element I was missing. It seems to me, from that information and your singing, that your alveolar plosives are very fronted. In fact, most your alveolars are like that, in addition to your plosive flapping. I would feel more inclined to say that they are 'liquidated', but I think the physical nature is that they are being produced in an almost interdental manner (dental at least). Does that sound close to right? There's more going on with the vowels that contribute to this, but my expertise in vowels is not nearly as good as consonants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dermot Posted May 29, 2010 Share Posted May 29, 2010 My native haolë accent also comes through when I sing.Ah, there's the rub. XD I knew there was an element I was missing. It seems to me, from that information and your singing, that your alveolar plosives are very fronted. In fact, most your alveolars are like that, in addition to your plosive flapping. I would feel more inclined to say that they are 'liquidated', but I think the physical nature is that they are being produced in an almost interdental manner (dental at least). Does that sound close to right? There's more going on with the vowels that contribute to this, but my expertise in vowels is not nearly as good as consonants.I think I also tend to slightly retroflexize my velars. :3 But I haven't really observed anything special in particular about my alveolars. I had a monster lithp until I was 11, then after people started to really point it out and I became aware of it, I started to train my speech to keep my tongue in place.Vowels are fun. You should study them too. XD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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