Half Life 2/Orange Box questions.

[Mr. Foxer]

As far as I can tell, where I'm at, you can't just go to the store and buy a prepaid card, you gotta set up an account that you can load the money into, so if I'm gonna do that, I'd rather wait until my bank account is set up and I just use a debit card.

I don't know what country you live in. But why would you have to set up an account for a pre-paid card? I think you have it wrong there.

[Star Fox Runner]

I don't know what country you live in. But why would you have to set up an account for a pre-paid card? I think you have it wrong there.

I guess I must be misinformed. And I live in the United States, Missouri to be exact.

Credit cards in general never made complete sense to me, that's why I seem to not know what I'm talking about. I've heard of so many people getting into trouble with them I've never bothered to learn too much about them because I didn't want to fall into the same trap.

I know how debit cards and bank accounts work, which is why I'd rather wait for that.

[Robert Monroe]

I guess I must be misinformed. And I live in the United States, Missouri to be exact.

Credit cards in general never made complete sense to me, that's why I seem to not know what I'm talking about. I've heard of so many people getting into trouble with them I've never bothered to learn too much about them because I didn't want to fall into the same trap.

I know how debit cards and bank accounts work, which is why I'd rather wait for that.

Debit cards don't work like Credit Cards I don't think. More like paper checks.

[Kursed]

Im not 100% on this, but I bought retail and I can either install from the disk or download it. I don't have a mac, but I assume you could download the mac version from steam.

no actually buying it from retail will give you a code to enter in on steam. the disk included only installs steam. so yes you waste money buying it in retail but the thing about steam is no matter how many times you  install or uninstall the games you own you cna always reinstall them via steam. So actually you could wait to install the game itself untill it works with mac. I'd check the game specs before you buy it from retail i'm not sure if  you need the mac version of hl2 or  if it's a universal game.

[Mr. Foxer]

Why would you buy the retail version? Your computer won't even recognize the disc  if it's for the PC version.

[Kursed]

Why would you buy the retail version? Your computer won't even recognize the disc  if it's for the PC version.

how would you know that the latest ones don't work on mac as well as pc?

[Mr. Foxer]

Because Apple hates video games and Valve, they don't and won't sell TF2, ever.

[Kursed]

Because Apple hates video games and Valve, they don't and won't sell TF2, ever.

http://store.steampowered.com/app/440/

explain (Mac coming soon) then.

  the don't ant won't sell tf2 then explain to me why i can play the game?

as much as I'd like to belive a mac is not a good gaming computer I  think your statement is irrational. where's your resoning do you own Tf2 or a mac? do you even have  a steam account?

[Scott7]

http://store.steampowered.com/app/440/

explain (Mac coming soon) then.

  the don't ant won't sell tf2 then explain to me why i can play the game?

(Damn, you beat me to it)

[Mr. Foxer]

I meant at the Apple store mind you, not Valve. I thought we were talking about the retail version here.

[Kursed]

how do you know where he is buying it? retail isn't just the apple store. they sell the orange box at Wal-mart and many other stores like it.

[Mr. Foxer]

Since when do Wal-Marts sell games for Mac? Let alone shooting games. If there isn't a retail version at the Apple store, then there isn't a retail version at all.

[Kursed]

http://www.walmart.com/search/search-ng.do?search_constraint=0&ic=48_0&search_query=stacraft&Find.x=0&Find.y=0&Find=Find

[Mr. Foxer]

[Scott7]

Lawl wut?

[Kursed]

maybe that's because starcraft2 ISN"T OUT YET?!

http://us.starcraft2.com/preorder/index.xml

ohh looky there [WAL-MART!

[Mr. Foxer]

So what does that have to do with there being a retail version of TF2?

[Kursed]

Since when do Wal-Marts sell games for Mac? Let alone shooting games. If there isn't a retail version at the Apple store, then there isn't a retail version at all.

i donno ^this was your comment not mine.  why did you change the subject?

[Mr. Foxer]

Because Apple hates video games and Valve, they don't and won't sell TF2, ever.

This is why you probably won't see a retail version of TF2 any time soon. Okay?

Apple hasn't been serious about gaming for the past several years and isn't serious about the industry now' date=' according to Valve Software co-founder Gabe Newell. The executive who helped found one of the most successful entertainment software and technology company's explains how talks with Apple over the years always seem to peter out into nothing, and that at each meeting Apple produces a different group of people who appear to know nothing of the talks conducted during the last group from a year prior. "They [Apple'] seem to think that they want to do gaming, but there's never any follow through on any of the things they say they're going to do. That makes it hard to be excited about doing games for [Apple] platforms."

Newell detailed the process of speaking to Apple representatives in an interview with Kikizo, explaining the drawn out process.

"We tried to have a conversation with Apple for several years, and they never seemed to... Well, we have this pattern with Apple, where we meet with them, people there go 'wow, gaming is incredibly important, we should do something with gaming.' And then we'll say, 'Okay, here are three things you could do to make that better,' and then they say 'Okay,' and then we never see them again," Newell explained.

"And then a year later, a new group of people show up, who apparently have no idea that the last group of people were there, and never follow though on anything. So, they seem to think that they want to do gaming, but there's never any follow through on any of the things they say they're going to do. That makes it hard to be excited about doing games for their platforms."

Concluding, Valve's co-founder expresses his lack of hope of working with Apple to improve the gaming experience for Mac owners.

"I just don't think they've ever taken gaming seriously. And none of the things developers ask them to do are done," Newell said. "As a result, there's no gaming market there to speak of. We'd love it if they would get serious about it. But they never have, and can't even follow trough on any of their commitments for game developers."

Valve's debut title Half-Life has won more than 50 Game of the Year awards and was named "Best PC Game Ever" on three separate occasions by PC Gamer magazine. Valve is also responsible for relesing Half-Life 2, Counter-Strike, Day of Defeat, Team Fortress, and Portal.

CodeWeavers today announced that its CrossOver Mac 6.2 software supports Team Fortress II out of the box, but uses virtualization technology that allows users to install and run Microsoft Windows. Native Mac games are still considered a rarity among hardcore gamers in the industry, with Blizzard Entertainment's World of Warcraft and several EA titles -- which have been promised but that are still pending release -- standing as islands in a sea of large scale PC-only games.

Apple's independent gaming community is alive and well, however, donning numerous feature-rich titles with intricate plots and smooth gameplay. Fun as they are, the smaller games can leave many Mac gamers hoping to see some of the latest and largest new games hit store shelves for Mac OS X as well as Windows at the same time, rather than a year or more later -- if at all.

Apple's apparent interest in embracing game-makers seemingly dissipates after employees leave the meetings, which leaves Mac gamers with that all-too-familiar feeling of fending for themselves when the hottest new titles hit the streets, which means resorting to Microsoft Windows.

(http://www.macnn.com/articles/07/10/03/valve.apple.isnt.serious/)

That is all.

[Kursed]

http://www.amazon.com/Halo-First-person-application-Microsoft-Software/dp/6130262167

http://www.joystiq.com/2010/04/29/starcraft-2-beta-mac-client-out-now/