Could you kill another human being?

[Sabre]

Because I have a low tolerance for BS. Fact of the matter is almost EVERYONE I've ever known to have claimed this were living their hardass fantasies. People can't just comfortably kill another person unprovoked and not be shaken unless they were totally freakin' nuts.

Okay, maybe I could have worded the title to include it just being for the lulz or something stupid like disagreement or "hate" as it were. Killing a single innocent life for the benefit of billions is justifiable. Not justified, but justifiable.

Wait, this is a perk? This is exactly why, say, Hitler was regarded as such an amazing guy, yes?

Soooo? I'm pretty sure a few punches thrown back and forth doesn't even COMPARE to murder. Sorry to rain on your parade.

HITLER CARD!

/thread

[Asper Sarnoff]

Take it easy folks, if there's any place on this forum where it should be possible to lead a civilised, calm and giving discussion, it should be here.

Last warning folks. It would be a pity to have out first lock in the mature board so early, wouldn't it?

[Guest Julius Quasar]

And I'll continue to think so. What I see is mostly badass speak. I really don't think you'd actually do it. About the trolling rule, I would like to be treated this way. If I'm talking nonsense, I'd hope someone would call me out on my stupidity.

But hey, maybe you ARE psychotic and, forgive me if this is an "attack," mentally disturbed. I just don't believe you are because you've shown evidence otherwise.

No, no, you're not trolling.  Look, I'm sorry,  didn't mean to get so mega defensive.  I'm just under a load of stress right now.  I'm trying to avoid falling off the wagon and drinking again.

Thing is, you're right, I am [borderline] psychotic.  I got bipolar disorder, and the medication makes it worse, so I don't take it [anymore].  When I get into major stress situations, the nastier side of me surfaces, and I have to deal with it...

[Milkyway64]

It's cool. This topic should best die now. I made it pretty much specifically to continue saying "NO U" to you while still being on topic. In other words, I was heavily annoyed and wanted an excuse to jump on the whole subject, specifically how people will talk and say they will do something dark and cold when in reality a very small number of them actually will.

[Sabre]

It's cool. This topic should best die now. I made it pretty much specifically to continue saying "NO U" to you while still being on topic. In other words, I was heavily annoyed and wanted an excuse to jump on the whole subject, specifically how people will talk and say they will do something dark and cold when in reality a very small number of them actually will.

And yet you failed anyway. There was a UFO thread you could have jumped on if you really wanted to troll.

[Milkyway64]

And yet you failed anyway. There was a UFO thread you could have jumped on if you really wanted to troll.

But UFOs are boring. Challenging the stereotypical internet tough guy is much more fun. :trollface:

["User"]

Last warning folks. It would be a pity to have out first lock in the mature board so early, wouldn't it?

Personally, knowing Milky, I honestly don't see this topic as becoming out of control, I see it as a "heated yet controlled" discussion thread about a moral issue that has a few  symbols throw around.  I'm sure Sabre feels the same way and I really don't think Julius is a person who would blow off the handle any time soon. 

Of course, you're the one in charge, not myself.  So don't let me tell you how to do your job because you're damn good at it already.  Just giving you another opinion

And Sabre, the ends do not justify the means... :trollface:

[Asper Sarnoff]

Personally, knowing Milky, I honestly don't see this topic as becoming out of control, I see it as a "heated yet controlled" discussion thread about a moral issue that has a few  symbols throw around.  I'm sure Sabre feels the same way and I really don't think Julius is a person who would blow off the handle any time soon. 

Of course, you're the one in charge, not myself.  So don't let me tell you how to do your job because you're damn good at it already.  Just giving you another opinion

And Sabre, the ends do not justify the means...

Thanks for the confidence. Just making sure you all knew I was watching closely, and that any mud-slinging would be striken down upon. Hard.

It's all fun, until someone get hurt you know.

[Guest Julius Quasar]

Personally, knowing Milky, I honestly don't see this topic as becoming out of control, I see it as a "heated yet controlled" discussion thread about a moral issue that has a few  symbols throw around.  I'm sure Sabre feels the same way and I really don't think Julius is a person who would blow off the handle any time soon. 

Of course, you're the one in charge, not myself.  So don't let me tell you how to do your job because you're damn good at it already.  Just giving you another opinion

And Sabre, the ends do not justify the means...

^=Win!

[Vy'drach]

I have often fantasized about a life hunting poachers.

[Star Fox Runner]

This question actually came up during a philosophy discussion during one of my college level English Composition class last year.

There's only one way to answer this. A person does not know until they are put into that situation. When someone is put into a situation where they may have to take a life, any possible outcome could happen, it depends on the person, and the situation.

If I were placed in a situation like that, I honestly don't know what I would do, and I hope I never have to find out.

[Redeemer]

In extreme self defense, as in horror movie attack scenario, maybe, but otherwise no. I'm a nurse, this goes against all my beliefs.

[Sabre]

In extreme self defense, as in horror movie attack scenario, maybe, but otherwise no. I'm a nurse, this goes against all my beliefs.

Stabbing people with scary needles and putting on bandages way to tight? :P

[Vy'drach]

Bit of a continuation from what I said in the Jay Naylor's Better Days thread here, I feel there are certain people that don't deserve to live, or to die a quick, painless death. I would love to see, or even cause, their drawn out, lingering demise. It would be perfect if the pain inflicted caused no intense physical damage, and that their death was caused solely by a lack of the will to live. I hate seeing, in movies or other media, someone who truly deserves to die getting a quick death, usually from a shot to the head.

Some may think this attitude is a little extreme, inhuman, cruel, demented, etc etc. But let us take the example I used in the Better Days thread, Nikki's father. I would love to hear the argument as to why someone like that deserves rights, and to be treated with decency and as though they were human. To me, their actions caused that to be sent right out the window.

[Sabre]

Bit of a continuation from what I said in the Jay Naylor's Better Days thread here, I feel there are certain people that don't deserve to live, or to die a quick, painless death. I would love to see, or even cause, their drawn out, lingering demise. It would be perfect if the pain inflicted caused no intense physical damage, and that their death was caused solely by a lack of the will to live. I hate seeing, in movies or other media, someone who truly deserves to die getting a quick death, usually from a shot to the head.

Some may think this attitude is a little extreme, inhuman, cruel, demented, etc etc. But let us take the example I used in the Better Days thread, Nikki's father. I would love to hear the argument as to why someone like that deserves rights, and to be treated with decency and as though they were human. To me, their actions caused that to be sent right out the window.

It's been years since I read the comic, and cba to re-read it. Are you talking about assited suicide or exicution?

[Vy'drach]

Execution, hence the slow, lingering demise. Assisted suicide, should the person want it, should not be a torture.

[Sabre]

The problem with execution from an idealist point of view is that there is no chance for repreive, and what if you're wrong?

[Guest Para Astaroth]

Inspired off another topic. Self defense is one thing, I'm talking about murder. Could you ever bring yourself to kill someone who was not threatening your own or anyone you love's well being? Be honest. Saying you could may make you look like a badass and all, but we're all adults and can take this scenario seriously.

Can we?

Well, yeah, I could.  Shoot, I've had numerous experiences of REALLY wanting to shoot someone, but not being able to because I didn't want to be put in jail for murder, so I kept the harsh reality to myself.  But, I did shoot someone with a bee-bee gun on purpose, which people would think wouldn't hurt that much when getting shot at or it's not much of a 'man-ly' thing, and I really didn't feel anything besides the sense of relief.

[Guest Julius Quasar]

That reminds me, I would kill another human being in a mercy killing/euthanasia type situation.

I have often fantasized about a life hunting poachers.

That would be awesome!  I'd definitely kill a criminal, even if said criminal isn't causing me any immediate harm.

Unfortunately, Commie-fornia society is VERY anti-vigilante.

[Milkyway64]

Some may think this attitude is a little extreme, inhuman, cruel, demented, etc etc. But let us take the example I used in the Better Days thread, Nikki's father. I would love to hear the argument as to why someone like that deserves rights, and to be treated with decency and as though they were human. To me, their actions caused that to be sent right out the window.

Only it is. For one thing, you murdering them, or even worse torture, puts you on the same societal level of scum-baggery as them and you deserve it right back, and the person who does it to you is put down on the same level as well. See where that goes?

Well, yeah, I could.  Shoot, I've had numerous experiences of REALLY wanting to shoot someone, but not being able to because I didn't want to be put in jail for murder, so I kept the harsh reality to myself.  But, I did shoot someone with a bee-bee gun on purpose, which people would think wouldn't hurt that much when getting shot at or it's not much of a 'man-ly' thing, and I really didn't feel anything besides the sense of relief.

Yeah. I'm pretty sure that if the laws didn't exist the entire human race would kill eachother off, with the data this topic has seemed to gather. May I ask what these numerous instances were? Anything really warranting the death you'd give them or was it just the same old petty bullshit most of us go through anyway?

[Robert Monroe]

Only it is. For one thing, you murdering them, or even worse torture, puts you on the same societal level of scum-baggery as them and you deserve it right back, and the person who does it to you is put down on the same level as well. See where that goes?

What goes around, comes around.

Yeah. I'm pretty sure that if the laws didn't exist the entire human race would kill eachother off, with the data this topic has seemed to gather. May I ask what these numerous instances were? Anything really warranting the death you'd give them or was it just the same old petty bullshit most of us go through anyway?

Thats why such crimes are called "crimes of passion".

[Guest Julius Quasar]

What goes around, comes around.

Thats why such crimes are called "crimes of passion".

^ Agreed.

Also, [Hypothetically] I [might] kill somebody if I were paid enough money.  I heard in this economy, (Business) Lawyers, , Divorce (Family) Lawyers, and Hitmen/Contract Killers have record clients/cases/assignments due to the fact people are all suing each other, divorcing one another, or out to kill one another in these economic dark ages.