Really, why am I here?

[Dermot]

For every bit of discouragement I'm given, I turn around and find someone else giving me just as much encouragement.  I'll try to stay, and continue being myself.  At the same time, I don't want to be your base breaker - Krystal already has that title. XD I get rather nervous whenever a debate over me osmoses beyond my immediate involvement into an argument that seems to involve everyone but me.  It makes me seem more important than I ever expected or predicted, especially at a time when I'm trying to sort through some of my own fan baggage (re: allowing someone else to get under my skin).  And Robert Monroe did have a point that I wasn't diversifying quite enough (though my core interests are still going to be core interests).  Ultimately I would much rather unite people than divide them.  I can't please everyone (I know that), but I'd usually prefer such disagreements to remain bilateral instead of multilateral.

And the osmosis I spoke of (that other thread I opted not to respond to) has now been locked, so I'm a tad less nervous now. XD Matrilwood, I appreciate your moral support, but I could see that it was only going to be a flamewar.

[Matrilwood]

If people actually followed the rules once in a while then there wouldn't have been a flame-war. (Also it wasn't a flame-war because there were only 2 people flaming)

[Dermot]

If people actually followed the rules once in a while then there wouldn't have been a flame-war. (Also it wasn't a flame-war because there were only 2 people flaming)

All it needs is two. It's enough to poison an atmosphere. X3

[Vy'drach]

On a serious note, the only thing I would not like you about is the images in your signature. Though I would be offended whether its heterosexual or homosexual.

^THIS! FUCKING.... THIS! (Note that was speaking through clenched teeth, to add full effect to the pause)

Debating is my driving force on forums, unfortunately though you will always get the narrow minded moron who can't tell the difference between a discussant debate and a flame-war; and will always go out of their way to make such activities impossible.

This too, I love a good debate.

As for your situation, Dermot, I can only offer the same advice I gave Julius. "I don't know about you, but I'll only leave the forum if I lose interest in Star Fox, or I get banned. I won't let someone make me feel "uncomfortable" about being on here, I'll go down tooth and nail."

That might be a more dramatic wording of how I actually said it, but the point remains the same.

[Dermot]

^THIS! -F-Bomb-ING.... THIS! (Note that was speaking through clenched teeth, to add full effect to the pause)

Oh shushcopters. You all probably became Star Fox fans at tender preteen ages.  I was 13 and already a teenager. X3 My signature very individually reflects my fan interests.  Let it be. :P

[Robert Monroe]

Oh shushcopters. You all probably became Star Fox fans at tender preteen ages.  I was 13 and already a teenager. X3 My signature very individually reflects my fan interests.  Let it be.

Hey Dermot.

I was 13 too.  :trollface:

[Dermot]

Hey Dermot.

I was 13 too. 

Yay. :3

But Star Fox SNES had almost entirely male characters. X3 Unless you really liked Fara. :P

[Robert Monroe]

Yay. :3

But Star Fox SNES had almost entirely male characters. X3 Unless you really liked Fara.

Yes, but you see, my 13 year old taken in a team of all men and forsees it as bromance, not homosexual Needs some actual romance there for that, eh?

[Dermot]

To a gay 13 year old, there is no difference. Hell, to a gay 30 year old, there is still no difference. And I've never had a "bromance" with a woman. X3 And I actually have sisters I'm close to. :3

[Robert Monroe]

To a gay 13 year old, there is no difference. Hell, to a gay 30 year old, there is still no difference. And I've never had a "bromance" with a woman. X3 And I actually have sisters I'm close to. :3

That would be because you can't bromance with girls.

But there is a difference. Mostly because bromance can apply to straight-gays and is by definition non-romantic and non-sexual.

ITS JUST BEING A BRO.

[Dermot]

That would be because you can't bromance with girls.

But there is a difference. Mostly because bromance can apply to straight-gays and is by definition non-romantic and non-sexual.

ITS JUST BEING A BRO.

Oh, you mean platonic friendship.  Why didn't you say that in the first place?  Most of the times gay friends have referred to "bromance", they mean it as a prelude to kissing or something like that. X3

And yes, one can have platonic friendships with girls. :P

[Robert Monroe]

Oh, you mean platonic friendship.  Why didn't you say that in the first place?  Most of the times gay friends have referred to "bromance", they mean it as a prelude to kissing or something like that. X3

Because any DUDES can be a platonic friend.

THIS IS A WHOLE TIER HIGHER. Your gay friends are misusing the word! >:[

[Dermot]

Because any DUDES can be a platonic friend.

THIS IS A WHOLE TIER HIGHER. Your gay friends are misusing the word! >:[

But for a gay guy like me, that just-higher tier is...true love. You have to realize that men are attractive, whether or not one loves them. XD Is there really such an emotional difference between this "bromance" you speak of, and true love? XD

[Robert Monroe]

But for a gay guy like me, that just-higher tier is...true love. You have to realize that men are attractive, whether or not one loves them. XD Is there really such an emotional difference between this "bromance" you speak of, and true love? XD

Yes, there is. Romance and BROmance are two seperate things, and relate to different forms of affection. Romance fills you with passion and fire and the urge to make out and stuff. Bromance makes you want to fistbump so hard it sends out visible shockwaves. Basically, bromance is a specialized form of BFF for men.

[Dermot]

Yes, there is. Romance and BROmance are two seperate things, and relate to different forms of affection. Romance fills you with passion and fire and the urge to make out and stuff. Bromance makes you want to fistbump so hard it sends out visible shockwaves. Basically, bromance is a specialized form of BFF for men.

I still don't see the difference - it's hard to be genuinely that extremely close to another guy and not feel magnetism. They call it "and one thing led to another". :3

[Robert Monroe]

I still don't see the difference - it's hard to be genuinely that extremely close to another guy and not feel magnetism. They call it "and one thing led to another". :3

One thing doesn't always lead to another.

And I'll put it to you like this: I'm romantically involved with a woman, but I have several bromantic relationships. The men I hang out with are my wingmates, my compadres, and what have you.

However, I would rather not kiss them. Or snuggle them affectionately. Or... pretty much anything of that sort.

That, I would only do with the woman who stole my heart :P

[Dermot]

One thing doesn't always lead to another.

And I'll put it to you like this: I'm romantically involved with a woman, but I have several bromantic relationships. The men I hang out with are my wingmates, my compadres, and what have you.

However, I would rather not kiss them. Or snuggle them affectionately. Or... pretty much anything of that sort.

That, I would only do with the woman who stole my heart

Yyyyyyeah, you lost me.

[Robert Monroe]

Yyyyyyeah, you lost me.

That's because you're gaaaaaaaaaaaaay  :trollface:

[Sabre]

It's best explained by example.

Nick Frost and Simon Pegg in Hot Fuzz is bromance. The 2 guys in army of 2 is bromance.

[Redeemer]

Dermot, I just want to say something here. I'm friends with furries, namely Swizzlestix, Nemekh and Chrome. You probably don't know them, but I thought I'd name them just in case. And they are some of the most affectionate people I know. They're different from other people, in the way that they are openly emotional, brutally honest and fiercely loyal to their friends. I realise that the furry community tend to "stick together" and such, but I can sort of tell how they are different from regular people. And it's not a bad different.

You, my dear, from what I can read about you, are a very sensitive young man who finds it difficult to connect with some people because of the harshness of today's society, and the stigma attatched to the furry community. But that's how it is today. The world is full of b*stards and b*tches, people who don't give a s*it about anything unless it involves them directly. You just have to rise above it.

Be proud of who you are. Be proud of what you are. Because if you were any different, you wouldn't be you. And that would suck. :)

[Vy'drach]

Dermot, I just want to say something here. I'm friends with furries, namely Swizzlestix, Nemekh and Chrome. You probably don't know them, but I thought I'd name them just in case. And they are some of the most affectionate people I know. They're different from other people, in the way that they are openly emotional, brutally honest and fiercely loyal to their friends. I realise that the furry community tend to "stick together" and such, but I can sort of tell how they are different from regular people. And it's not a bad different.

You, my dear, from what I can read about you, are a very sensitive young man who finds it difficult to connect with some people because of the harshness of today's society, and the stigma attatched to the furry community. But that's how it is today. The world is full of b*stards and b*tches, people who don't give a s*it about anything unless it involves them directly. You just have to rise above it.

Be proud of who you are. Be proud of what you are. Because if you were any different, you wouldn't be you. And that would suck.

The problem isn't with him being a furry, most of us are furries, it's with him being gay. Actually, not quite that, either, some people have a problem with his habit of talking of that only, and with some of the artwork he posts (I personally just don't like relationship art to be so blatantly "in my face," but that is more than known to him).

[Redeemer]

Yeah I guess so, but I was just wanting to say something nice because he seemed so down.

Sometimes the internet is the only way to vent stuff you can't reveal in real life. I don't know. But I do think that some art should be reserved for FA only. What about a topic that has a warning in it? Like "My art work: Warning! Contains "gay relationship" content!"? Then you can choose to look at it or not.

[Vy'drach]

Relationship art is supposed to be not embedded now, and I don't care what sexuality the relationship art is, straight, gay, lesbian, bi, I just don't want to see Star Fox characters in that situation.

[Redeemer]

Yeah, neither do I, but you have to be careful how you express your concern because it can hurt other people's feelings. It's all the same with fanart, a lot of it is stuff people don't want to see, but it's still a choice. If there is a rule here saying that such content is not allowed, fair enough, but if it is allowed, then you should respect the wishes of those who wish to see it. I'm just trying to see both sides here, but it seems to be a fiery topic that I'm most likely out of my depth with.

[rebel_gunman]

In other words... BE TACTFUL!!!!