Graphics

[Sabre]

What do graphics mean to you? Usually, I don't care as long as it doesn't effect the game. Horror games (among others) need their graphics, and FPS you need to see what you are doing, but most of the it doesn't bother me.

I ask because Fallout new vagas and the secret valve announcment coming has alot of people complaining about graphics. How these games look 'old' and 'last gen'.

Where do you stand?

[Guest DRL]

I really do not care about 'graphics'

that much.

Remember, one does not judge

a book by it's cover...

[Dublinthefox]

To me, I don't really care about the graphics. I mostly care about the gameplay and story.

[ThePointingMan]

I don't care about the graphics... or the story, All  I need is good gameplay. (Although a super corny story is swell in my books, a game with a serious story line, I just can't take seriously.)

[SlyJedi]

I really do not care about 'graphics'

that much.

Remember, one does not judge

a book by it's cover...

Yes, good graphics alone do not, a good game, make. For me it is the story that makes or breaks a video game.

[CrypticQuery]

I couldn't care less, if the graphics are good, then great, if they aren't whoopee, it's not going to subtract from my gaming experience.  For example, let's take MAG and Battlefield: Bad Company 2.  Both FPS games, but MAG's graphics have a PS3 launch title look to them.  That doesn't subtract from the overall gaming experience though.  It just matters if the game is fun, controls well, and has a good story. 

[Star Fox Runner]

For me, graphics are a plus. But aren't really important unless they make the game harder to play.

It's about gameplay and story for me.

[Robert Monroe]

Graphics are important in that they help with immersion. A game like Assassin's Creed 2 needs the pretty looks because part of the game is literally filling this historical person's shoes, and enjoying the eye candy. Horror games also need good visuals, because otherwise they quickly lose their luster.

And lolwat at New Vegas looking "last gen". It looks just like FO3.

[Scott7]

As long as it has actual graphic's i'm fine with whatever comes my way. Which is pretty much the main reason why i don't have any interest in this "minecraft" that everyone keeps talking about.

[Vy'drach]

I've never really cared for graphics, usually games push the graphics beyond what they game is capable of, and it causes framerate lag, especially in multiplayer.

[Sabre]

As long as it has actual graphic's i'm fine with whatever comes my way. Which is pretty much the main reason why i don't have any interest in this "minecraft" that everyone keeps talking about.

Graphics are important in that they help with immersion. A game like Assassin's Creed 2 needs the pretty looks because part of the game is literally filling this historical person's shoes, and enjoying the eye candy. Horror games also need good visuals, because otherwise they quickly lose their luster.

And lolwat at New Vegas looking "last gen". It looks just like FO3.

Right, those are cases where graphics effect the gameplay in a negative way. Bioshock on low settings just doesn't work. Same with games where it's hard to read text or see enemies.

I agree on the last gen thing, though I heard this alot with ODST. I guess they are talking about gens of games within a single system. (games get better looking as devs get more experienced with it) That or he's a kid and thus has no idea how PS2 games looked.

I've never really cared for graphics, usually games push the graphics beyond what they game is capable of, and it causes framerate lag, especially in multiplayer.

That's called slowdown. In PC games it depends on what system you've got. Console games have no excuse though.

[Vy'drach]

Considering I can't afford to keep updating my computer, most of my games are on consoles. The input devices don't matter to me, but gameplay does. Unfortunately, even console only games do it, Gears of War 1&2 are some of the laggiest games out there, due to the graphics.

[Mr. Foxer]

No, something is wrong with your Xbox.

[Vy'drach]

No, the Xbox is fine, just due to lack of dedicated servers, and high graphics, it causes framerate lag. The game looks like it is going smooth, but the actions of the person, along with the person's location, are not what they appear to be. And it isn't just me, all of my friends who played Gears had this.

["User"]

For me, graphics and gameplay go hand in hand.

[Mr. Foxer]

Then that would be connection lag.

[Robert Monroe]

Right, those are cases where graphics effect the gameplay in a negative way. Bioshock on low settings just doesn't work. Same with games where it's hard to read text or see enemies.

Play it on console, or update your PC. Don't bother buying a game you know your computer can't run, it's not the game or graphics fault, its your own.

As for small text, I thought only Dead Rising and Mass Effect 2 did that (much to my annoyance when I switch between SD and HDTV).

[Scott7]

Play it on console, or update your PC. Don't bother buying a game you know your computer can't run, it's not the game or graphics fault, its your own.

As for small text, I thought only Dead Rising and Mass Effect 2 did that (much to my annoyance when I switch between SD and HDTV).

Don't forget Crysis.  :P

[Sabre]

Play it on console, or update your PC. Don't bother buying a game you know your computer can't run, it's not the game or graphics fault, its your own.

As for small text, I thought only Dead Rising and Mass Effect 2 did that (much to my annoyance when I switch between SD and HDTV).

Right, but my point was that even if you CAN play them on low settings, it takes away from the experince enough to make it not worth it.

Then that would be connection lag.

Correct. Time for some terminolagy time.

*do d-do do

Slowdown- A drop in the games framerate due to the computer not being powerful enough.

Lag- A connection issue that causes your character to react slower

Framerate Lag- The host get's slowdown, causing all the connected player to experience lag as they are not recieving data from the host fast enough.

So, gears of war on 360 wil not have framerate lag enough to be noticable to the player.

[Sol-Ratcht Saporro]

Hell no. Graphics for me do not make a game. They're a nice incentive though. I'm more into storyline and gameplay.

[Braux]

Graphics are always a nice plus, but its gameplay that really matters to me.

But graphics are a nice, very nice plus.

[Mr. Krystal]

Graphics means job to me, since I make graphics.

[MeestaRyan]

Graphics aren't that big of a deal as long as the game isn't glitchy then I'm alright with it.