Mr. Foxer Posted June 16, 2010 Share Posted June 16, 2010 Don't blame me, blame the media, I read it in the newspapers, they don't lie ya know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted June 16, 2010 Share Posted June 16, 2010 It's not that kind. See, there never really was a 3D graphics engine for the DS. Their upping the graphics level and that's it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Foxer Posted June 16, 2010 Share Posted June 16, 2010 I don't really see stereoscopic 3D actually being 3D, although it is for a fact, I usually think more of "popping out of the screen" when I think 3D. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Posted June 16, 2010 Share Posted June 16, 2010 Don't blame me, blame the media, I read it in the newspapers, they don't lie ya know.If you don't like it, then stop saying it's worthless. Calling people "dumbass" will only get you in trouble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Foxer Posted June 16, 2010 Share Posted June 16, 2010 If I don't like it then naturally, wouldn't I insult the idea? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fureox Posted June 16, 2010 Share Posted June 16, 2010 Back on topic,I gladly welcome the idea of putting Star Fox in 3D. I think it will turn outto be a really cool thing. As for the story, i don't think that it'll be changed, and i strongly hope that it won't. Nintendo has been known to screw some things up, though :hehe: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Posted June 16, 2010 Share Posted June 16, 2010 If I don't like it then naturally, wouldn't I insult the idea?No, you are not insulting an idea if you don't like it. Going "I don't like this" i and going "This thing is shitty, it's crap, "my majority" says it's a piece of ****" post after post, are two different things, the last one is insulting, specially if you are going to go ahead and call people dumbass just because they don't agree with you. Plain and simple, just watch your words, that's all, I never said you should change your opinion, you don't like it? that's fine, we get it.Back on topic, I would have wished something new instead of a remake, I'm kinda getting tired of Nintendo pulling remake after remake, specially with franchises like Starfox that could benefit from a new fresh start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted June 16, 2010 Share Posted June 16, 2010 IT'S ALREADY IN 3D!!!It isn't "pop out" 3D! It never will be! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fureox Posted June 16, 2010 Share Posted June 16, 2010 I agree completely with the idea of Star Fox needing the next game to further the story and such,but in the end I'm grateful Nintendo is at least throwing us a bone after such a long wait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrypticQuery Posted June 16, 2010 Share Posted June 16, 2010 It's not that kind. See, there never really was a 3D graphics engine for the DS. Their upping the graphics level and that's it. It's going to be for the 3DS, not the existing DS line! . The 3DS is capable of 3D without the requirement of glasses . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted June 16, 2010 Share Posted June 16, 2010 No! That is not right!The current DS does not have 3D graphics like the Wii. The next one will. This claim that it's movie 3D is false. When they mean glasses, they mean spectacles. Like reading glasses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrypticQuery Posted June 16, 2010 Share Posted June 16, 2010 No! That is not right!The current DS does not have 3D graphics like the Wii. The next one will. This claim that it's movie 3D is false. When they mean glasses, they mean spectacles. Like reading glasses.WAIT, WHAT'S GOING ON?!! All I know is that the 3DS is replacing the DS line, it is going to be in full 3D, and achieve the effect without 3D glasses. See the official site http://e3.nintendo.com/3ds/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted June 16, 2010 Share Posted June 16, 2010 ...... That is the biggest load of bulls*** Ive ever seen. No way they can make 3D like that. Holographic? No. Not possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Posted June 16, 2010 Share Posted June 16, 2010 Guys, this is about Starfox for the new 3DS, anyways, Nintendo, on the E3, already showed that the 3DS will boost 3D without glasses, but that's for another topic, if you want to discuss about that, go to the Arcade and make a topic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DZComposer Posted June 16, 2010 Author Share Posted June 16, 2010 ...... That is the biggest load of bulls*** Ive ever seen. No way they can make 3D like that. Holographic? No. Not possible. Two words: Parallax Barrier. High-end TVs have been flirting with that technology for a couple of years. Sharp is the big pusher of it, and the current DS LCDs are made by Sharp. Hmm...It basically uses a filter to do the same thing 3D glasses do. One shape of the filter lets out one image, while the other shape lets out another. You eye sees it like a stereogram. The disadvantage of it, and likely why they had people go around with the units after the conference, is that you have to be damn-close to perpendicular to the screen for it to work.A better explanation of some autosterography techniques, including Parallax Barrier: http://sp.cs.tut.fi/mobile3dtv/technology/displays.shtml Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StarFoxfan-FUR_ever Posted June 16, 2010 Share Posted June 16, 2010 KILL THE NON-BELIEVERS!!!!!alright, so Nintendo is throwing out some pretty bold statements by saying it's "real 3D, like the movies", but can you blame them? 1) they are trying to sell a product (though, if this turns out to be a lie :evil: )2) 3D like the movies, could only be refering to enhanced graphics, but wasn't that a complaint about the original DS? (OMG, these graphics suck, I dont want this peace of.....) Better graphics apparently equate to consumer likeability and attractiveness these days. More power to Nintendo if this is the case. Screenshots look nice so far, we'll just have to wait.3) At least there is an effort being made by Nintendo to actually sell their games....now, if they could just make new ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrypticQuery Posted June 16, 2010 Share Posted June 16, 2010 ...... That is the biggest load of bulls*** Ive ever seen. No way they can make 3D like that. Holographic? No. Not possible.Well, if you go to the videos section on the main site, they do have some people's first impressions and reactions to the 3D aspect. You could also watch Nintendo's press conference, & see the wikipedia for more info .Wiki- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nintendo_3DSNintendo e3 2010 press conference http://e3.g4tv.com/videos/46345/E3-2010-Nintendo-Press-Conference/Back on-topicI seriously cannot wait to see how this game will look holographic-ly floating in front of me in a way And I hope that Nintendo just leaves this as a remake, and DOESN'T TOUCH THE CANON AT ALL! . (Except for maybe some unlockable characters ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Monroe Posted June 16, 2010 Share Posted June 16, 2010 ^^^and I presume you have never watched "Back to the Future"??? (oh sure, what can going to the past and interacting with your relatives and some guy you hate so much do to you?) /jokeThe reason the Krystal fans are concerned is because they are worried that Nintendo will literally "Go back to it's games roots" and rewrite the stories behind them. In this case SF 64. On second thought, on the other hand, if Nintendo were to change the story of SF by adding Krystal in "SF 64 3DS", we might potentially have a replacement for Fara in Krystal. = girlfriend....and completely wipe away the old comics from any cannon whatsoever, even though they already did for the most part. (but that's taking it to extremes)The BttF arguement would work if they had a Starfox game that involved time travel back to the Lylat War.And to be honest? Krystal fans can get over it. Its to come down to this: are you a STARFOX fan, or a KRYSTAL fan? If you HONESTLY value a SINGLE mostly useless character over the FRANCHISE'S HEALTH AS A WHOLE, then I am sorry, I will not miss you if you leave. And ADDING Krystal to SF643D would screw up the time lime just as bad.The majoritydumbassMajority? What majority? Where are you statistics? Was there a global gamer vote I was unaware of? Majority is subjective, the majority (as in all of them but one) of my friends have all found the 3DS to be made of pure awesome. Don't call me a dumbass for shooting holes into your little paper thin bitchfit.Anyway, yeah, guys? The REAL 3D effect is made by the material the screens are made of. DZ hit it right on the head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vy'drach Posted June 16, 2010 Share Posted June 16, 2010 The BttF arguement would work if they had a Starfox game that involved time travel back to the Lylat War.And to be honest? Krystal fans can get over it. Its to come down to this: are you a STARFOX fan, or a KRYSTAL fan? If you HONESTLY value a SINGLE mostly useless character over the FRANCHISE'S HEALTH AS A WHOLE, then I am sorry, I will not miss you if you leave. And ADDING Krystal to SF643D would screw up the time lime just as bad.I, personally, wasn't saying add her to the timeline, but as a character to mess around with after you beat the game at least once. After you beat Metal Gear Solid 2: Subsistence, you unlocked a feature that let you swap out characters in cutscenes, and I made Otacon infiltrate the tanker by jumping off the Verazano bridge, with Olga in her cyborg ninja suit watching him from the Kasatka chopper, as she twirled Ocelot's revolver (since it was originally Ocelot watching snake). Bayonetta has some two unlockable characters, Jeanne, and Little King Zero. When you play as either, the game just assumes cutscene/story wise that you're still Bayonetta, but in-game, it's another character. It's just something fun to do, after you beat the game. Adds replayability. Why shouldn't they make Krystal/Star Wolf/Dash Bowmen/Katt Monroe, etc etc playable after beating the game/in any multiplayer you put in it? What harm will it do? All I see coming from that is more fun and replayability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest DRL Posted June 16, 2010 Share Posted June 16, 2010 I seriously cannot wait to see how this game will look holographic-ly floating in front of me in a way And I hope that Nintendo just leaves this as a remake, and DOESN'T TOUCH THE CANON AT ALL! . (Except for maybe some unlockable characters )YEAH, I CAN NOT WAIT EITHER!!! :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StarFoxfan-FUR_ever Posted June 16, 2010 Share Posted June 16, 2010 The BttF arguement would work if they had a Starfox game that involved time travel back to the Lylat War.And to be honest? Krystal fans can get over it. Its to come down to this: are you a STARFOX fan, or a KRYSTAL fan? If you HONESTLY value a SINGLE mostly useless character over the FRANCHISE'S HEALTH AS A WHOLE, then I am sorry, I will not miss you if you leave. And ADDING Krystal to SF643D would screw up the time lime just as bad.Actually, you did ask: "And how the heck can a game thats set before Krystal can do something to erase her?" I responded with the BttF joke. But anyways....Why does it seem that no one understands a word I say? I never said that not adding Krystal to the game would ruin it. Your original question was why most of the fans were freaking out everywhere about the possibility of changing the story altogether.You do realize that a huge percentage of the fanbase is "Krystal" fans right? (BTW, i've been a SF fan since the original SF 64, you know, since there's gonna be a remake. So just to be clear, I love the franchise from "pre-Adventures". Starting a whole arguement over "what do you really love about SF?" is only going to cause a flame war).....So all I was saying is that THESE specific fans would feel screwed over because a favorite video game character of there's has been removed altogether from its franchise.And so, I was speculating over what Nintendo could possibly do with Krystal if they just so happened to include her in this game, which for some reason, people are starting to believe may re-write the SF storyline. Thus, the mentioning of Krystal "technically" replacing Fara. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Star Fox Runner Posted June 16, 2010 Share Posted June 16, 2010 Thus an underlying issue is brought forth. Obviously Krystal wasn't in 64, so it wouldn't make sense to put her in, unless she was an unlockable character in multiplayer or something.Though I am a Krystal fan, she is not the heart and soul of Star Fox, if she isn't in 64 3D, then so be it. I'm still getting the game! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vy'drach Posted June 16, 2010 Share Posted June 16, 2010 Thus an underlying issue is brought forth. Obviously Krystal wasn't in 64, so it wouldn't make sense to put her in, unless she was an unlockable character in multiplayer or something.Though I am a Krystal fan, she is not the heart and soul of Star Fox, if she isn't in 64 3D, then so be it. I'm still getting the game!Exactly, I will still enjoy SF64 3DS (Which I will most likely get, considering all the other games known that are coming out for 3DS), but it would be more fun to interact with her in some form, that doesn't involve the canon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest DRL Posted June 16, 2010 Share Posted June 16, 2010 Exactly, I will still enjoy SF64 3DS (Which I will most likely get, considering all the other games known that are coming out for 3DS), but it would be more fun to interact with her in some form, that doesn't involve the canon.Yeah, I am a Katt fan as well,and I would like to be able to haveher as a unlockable character. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Para Astaroth Posted June 16, 2010 Share Posted June 16, 2010 Considering that a good chunk of the canon was established by SF64, how should we handle it if they made some changes? Like adding Krystal? or ? Brown Bill or Gray Bill? Andross' motivation (I'm thinking Krystal's suggestion in SFC)? This could lead to some nasty retcons.As one of the 5 people that actually cares about the SF canon, I must admit I am a little worried.Well, it would surprise me even more if Miyu and/or Fay were added in the new installment, or remake. To be honest, even though they aren't considered canon, it would be interesting to see them finally in a Starfox game since a lot of people like these two women along with a cameo of Fara Phoenix and possibly just a cutscene or two with the three -- maybe some other 'good stuff.' Thats my opinion on the matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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