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Fox and Krystal breaking up: impact

Slippy retiring for a life of marriage: impact

Dash suddenly becoming the badguy: impact

Starwolf becoming the heroes: impact

I never said it was GOOD writing. On the contrary, I agree it is absolutely tits writing. But it at least ACCOMPLISHES something. You could remove Assault entirely from the series mythos and have Command directly follow Adventures and nothing would really be different except for Panther coming out of nowhere.

Well, if we have to remove a game, I would

choose Command. It has non-cannon endings anyway.

The one where Slippy gets married and has dicktons of grandkids. Because you can't go wrong with Slippy in a top hat.

Well but Slippy deserves a better ending for his carrer... :|

Also, nobody tells what the Hyper happens Star Fox.

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Well, if we have to remove a game, I would

choose Command. It has non-cannon endings anyway.

Well but Slippy deserves a better ending for his carrer... :|

Also, nobody tells what the Hyper happens Star Fox.

That's not what I meant. When I said "remove" I meant story elements. Example, Starfox 64 can not lead into Assault or Command due to the presense of Krystal. It needs Adventures to fill in the gaps. However, Assault can be removed entirely, and you can still have Command. Adventures can lead directly into its story, and the only plotholes you'd have are General Peppy (which isn't so bad as General Pepper is more or less retired anyway) and the Ghost of Pigma (which does need Assault to explain). That's my point.

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That's not what I meant. When I said "remove" I meant story elements. Example, Starfox 64 can not lead into Assault or Command due to the presense of Krystal. It needs Adventures to fill in the gaps. However, Assault can be removed entirely, and you can still have Command. Adventures can lead directly into its story, and the only plotholes you'd have are General Peppy (which isn't so bad as General Pepper is more or less retired anyway) and the Ghost of Pigma (which does need Assault to explain). That's my point.

But Command does not explains who

is Panther.

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But Command does not explains who

is Panther.

To be honest, neither did Assault.

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How about because Command took every character's personality, stomped on it, and threw it out the window? While it did have little tributes to older games, it did not have any respect for the characters and their situations. And I didn't mind Assault or Command's controls, could of been fine tuned a bit, but that's it. Command just had stupid gameplay mechanics, with an even dumber story that was a spit in the face to the rest of the series. Assault at least continued the story rather nicely.

Amen. Vydrach you have got it down perfectly. I could not agree more. :D

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Yep, Vydrach is good at that stuff. :)

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It's always entertaining when people try to apply logic to the Star Fox story, with all of it's plotholes and inconsistencies. :roll:

But I still care about it for some reason. O_o

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Well I actually hope they change SF64 around a little bit, good god not the controls like SFC but maybe mash it up a little and maybe some new levels, make a beastly barrel roll that will make people's nuts fall off it's so extreme! :D lol

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It's always entertaining when people try to apply logic to the Star Fox story, with all of it's plotholes and inconsistencies. :roll:

But I still care about it for some reason. O_o

Hey, all you gotta do to fix it is erase Assault and Command entirely and maybe re-do Adventures.

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Hey, all you gotta do to fix it is erase Assault and Command entirely and maybe re-do Adventures.

No please don't get Vydrach stirred up again lol me and him talked about that last night and we came to the conclusion that Star Fox (Excluding SFC) has become a bad @$$ series bacause of the backbone story line it contains (Special thanks to Adventures!) and Assault wasn't bad, it has the beasty Arwings, and SFC command....I think they shit on the computer and made it into a game lol

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Okay.....I don't have time to read back so what the hell happened? XD What are we debating about? lol

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Okay.....I don't have time to read back so what the hell happened? XD What are we debating about? lol

How -F Bomb- Bad @$$ SF643D is gonna be :)

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It's always entertaining when people try to apply logic to the Star Fox story, with all of it's plotholes and inconsistencies. :roll:

But I still care about it for some reason. O_o

The fun in it is trying to explain those plotholes and inconsistencies. If every aspect of Star Fox were explained and made sense, what would there be to debate about?

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The fun in it is trying to explain those plotholes and inconsistencies. If every aspect of Star Fox were explained and made sense, what would there be to debate about?

................................................ :slippy: ''This baby can temperatures up to 9000 degrees!''

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................................................ :slippy: ''This baby can temperatures up to 9000 degrees!''

:peppy: Quit dinkin' around Slip! :D

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Take out command and adventures and fill those gaps, keep the others and Im fine.

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Take out command and adventures and fill those gaps, keep the others and Im fine.

Taking out Adventures would screw up the whole backbone of the series! :(

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Taking out Adventures would screw up the whole backbone of the series! :(

Actually, that'd be Starfox(64).

Adventures is more of the hip bone, really.

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Actually, that'd be Starfox(64).

Adventures is more of the hip bone, really.

lol! Good one.

But yeah, if you took Adventures out, so would be ecstatic, others would be pissed. Then even MORE flame wars between the two camps would begin. :P

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lol! Good one.

But yeah, if you took Adventures out, so would be ecstatic, others would be pissed. Then even MORE flame wars between the two camps would begin. :P

so uhh where does krystal come from then if assault is cannon? (I wondered the same thing when i didn't realize that assault was the sequel to Adventures.
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so uhh where does krystal come from then if assault is cannon? (I wondered the same thing when i didn't realize that assault was the sequel to Adventures.

That is why I am worried. Knowing Nintendo,

they might not only consider tihs a remake,

but a reboot - That would effectively make

Adventures, Assault, and Command (well, if that

has any canon), non-canon completely.

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That is why I am worried. Knowing Nintendo,

they might not only consider tihs a remake,

but a reboot - That would effectively make

Adventures, Assault, and Command (well, if that

has any canon), non-canon completely.

a re-boot now might just make things worse i doubt they'd do that. it's just a remake like super mario bros Wii.
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That is why I am worried. Knowing Nintendo,

they might not only consider tihs a remake,

but a reboot - That would effectively make

Adventures, Assault, and Command (well, if that

has any canon), non-canon completely.

I'm pretty sure it's just a remake and not a reboot, although Nintendo has stated some things will be different. Such as will be with the Zelda Oot remake.

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a re-boot now might just make things worse i doubt they'd do that. it's just a remake like super mario bros Wii.

Hopefully...

I'm pretty sure it's just a remake and not a reboot, although Nintendo has stated some things will be different. Such as will be with the Zelda Oot remake.

I still wonder how this will affect the canon.

I mean, eXtra stuff is one thing. "Different" usually

means "changed" - which DOES affect the canon,

albeit in a small way.

For the future games I hope:

° That Peppy does NOT reties.

° Krystal remains in the series.

° Katt remains pink.

° Miyu and Fay to be back.

° Bill to be a dog, not a kangaroo-like

  (like in Command)

° Fox and Krystal to never have a ugly

  son called Marcus (UGH! :P + :x )

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