Morals or Stuff?

[Sabre]

As you may or may not know, I'm anti DRM. However, more and more games are coming out with it. I want the games, not the DRM. As such it's getting difficult to stick to my morals.

Recently, someone changed from using one site to another rival site, and got a ton of bile for it. The reason being that he disagreed with them on a moral level, but the service was so much better.

Then theres the Shadow Complex issue. If you don't know it, look it up on wikipedia.

So, while the idealist will always say "morals before stuff!" in reality everyone has some price. What belief do you have, and what would it take for you to break it?

So, if you can't think of one use the following. Let's say a new startfox game comes out, get's rave reviews, but the profits go to funding banning vacines, banning gay marrage, banning science from schools, stealing sweets from babies, whatever.

[Vy'drach]

It really depends on what the situation is, as with Shadow Complex. I bought Shadow Complex before I knew of that guy's anti-homosexual tendency, but I would of bought it anyway since I don't care one way or the other. But if it was something I cared about very very deeply, I likely wouldn't do it.

[Sabre]

Same, but iirc none of the procedes from the game went to that.

[Matrilwood]

For me I won't eat caged eggs. Even if they are put in front of me with a huge amount of bacon on the side, I would refuse to eat caged eggs.

[Sabre]

But what would it take to make you eat caged eggs short of straving in the desert

[Matrilwood]

If there was a gun to my wife's head.

[Redeemer]

For me I won't eat caged eggs. Even if they are put in front of me with a huge amount of bacon on the side, I would refuse to eat caged eggs.

Exactly the same as me. If I ask my boyfriend to pick up eggs from the store, he always forgets my views on it and buys caged eggs, so I don't touch them.

[Mr. Krystal]

My morals break down during temporary lapses in my defenses. And I feel horrible afterward, and rightly so. I try to make up for any breakdowns I have as quickly as possible, but I know I'll never be able to make up for them all.

[Robert Monroe]

Buy what's good, don't give a damn about the details.

Like seriously, who gives a damn what the makes of a game think of gay people or what the hell ever when the game hasn't got shit to do about it? You're letting some silly self-righteousness get in between you and a piece of fiction and entertainment.

It'd be like me as a Christian being offended by the Assassin's Creed games because the mythology of said games is non-Christian.

[Guest DRL]

Depends on the 'level' I must do a 'moral break'.

Low-level:

Downloading a pirate because I am unable to find

the original anywhere, is not THAT much trouble.

The best thing would be to have originals, but here

it is hard to do it. Considering it is a piece of software,

after all, I do not consider it much of as a 'crime' because

after all more of it can be made. The developers are not going

to miss anything because I will not be able to buy it anyway.

Mid level? Let's say I am on the middle of the desert, and there

is no food but meat. Will I eat it? No. Preffer starvation. Eating

it on the desert to me is the same as eating it on an paradise;

it is not 'where' but 'what', and no matter 'where', 'what' must

not be done.

I also have high-level, but that is moving slightly into politics...

[Sabre]

Buy what's good, don't give a damn about the details.

Like seriously, who gives a damn what the makes of a game think of gay people or what the hell ever when the game hasn't got shit to do about it? You're letting some silly self-righteousness get in between you and a piece of fiction and entertainment.

It'd be like me as a Christian being offended by the Assassin's Creed games because the mythology of said games is non-Christian.

No, it wouldn't. Think of it as the money from sales of AC is used to pass laws banning cristianity, ect.

[Robert Monroe]

No, it wouldn't. Think of it as the money from sales of AC is used to pass laws banning cristianity, ect.

That's a different case then. If the funds are being used to spearhead some personal agenda, then a boycott should in order. But I would consider that to be a minority situation.

[Mr. Krystal]

No, it wouldn't. Think of it as the money from sales of AC is used to pass laws banning cristianity, ect.

Still don't see the problem. I support anti-Christian organizations all the time through my business and dealings. That's just the world we live in. I mean, if you want to personally not buy stuff like that because it will indirectly show you don't support someone's views, go ahead. It's more effective to speak out against opposing views.

[Asper Sarnoff]

Some examples of personal beliefs, and when there are exceptions to them.

Belief: Physically cause harm to a woman (Or a child for that matter as well).

Exception: The female in question is more of a man than I am. Think female, professional hammer-throwers from the old USSR. Crammed full of 'roids.

Belief: Make fun of, or speak negatively about people with serious disability is wrong.

Exception: If the humor is really, really lighthearted. Meant to get people to laugh with instead off people with disabilities, then I can tolerate it. So far, only been one exception I've ever had to this belief.

Belief: Discrimination due to race, beliefs, sexuality, or generally being different is wrong.

Exception: If those in question discriminated against, themself discriminate against me or what I stand for. Example, I won't in any way sympathise with a muslim who is discriminated against, if he himself view me as a "white pig".

Naturally, there are hundreds of other beliefs I have as well. Luckily, I seem to always chose what with hindsight proves to be the best option when encountering dilemmas that challenge my beliefs or honorary code.

[Guest DRL]

Some examples of personal beliefs, and when there are exceptions to them.

Belief: Physically cause harm to a woman (Or a child for that matter as well).

Exception: The female in question is more of a man than I am. Think female, professional hammer-throwers from the old USSR. Crammed full of 'roids.

Belief: Make fun of, or speak negatively about people with serious disability is wrong.

Exception: If the humor is really, really lighthearted. Meant to get people to laugh with instead off people with disabilities, then I can tolerate it. So far, only been one exception I've ever had to this belief.

Belief: Discrimination due to race, beliefs, sexuality, or generally being different is wrong.

Exception: If those in question discriminated against, themself discriminate against me or what I stand for. Example, I won't in any way sympathise with a muslim who is discriminated against, if he himself view me as a "white pig".

Naturally, there are hundreds of other beliefs I have as well. Luckily, I seem to always chose what with hindsight proves to be the best option when encountering dilemmas that challenge my beliefs or honorary code.

Wow, that is almost exactly part of my high-level morals code.