Love Life Talk

[Fluxy]

I don't know about happily. It's not really my choice that I'm constantly alone, but I guess I have to deal with it.

That's a bit of the downer side of looking at it. Not that you can't look at it that way, but just saying that with a little effort it could easily change.

[The Shaper]

like what old my pal nick said it's ok to be alone, but there's someone out there for everyone so don't give up hope if things don't turn out well.

[Steve]

This topic is now, sticky  :P

[WedgeAntilles66]

like what old my pal nick said it's ok to be alone, but there's someone out there for everyone so don't give up hope if things don't turn out well.

Well, we don't live in a world of magic. 'Love' isn't some mystical energy force that holds the universe together, so the "there's someone out there for everyone line" doesn't carry much weight. Now, I'm not trying to go into some tirade about my personal problems, that's just a realistic way of looking at things.

[Fluxy]

Well, we don't live in a world of magic. 'Love' isn't some mystical energy force that holds the universe together, so the "there's someone out there for everyone line" doesn't carry much weight. Now, I'm not trying to go into some tirade about my personal problems, that's just a realistic way of looking at things.

Of course. I could also take all the crap about taking in all the comments and remarks I get about being gay, and worse stuff, when really, I don't have a preference. Is it going to stop me one day when I am ready to find someone? No. But if you think about it, every friendship is love. Not in a lusting way maybe, but there is someone out there for everyone, even if that means just a really great friendship. This is also a realistic way of looking at it.

[WedgeAntilles66]

Of course. I could also take all the crap about taking in all the comments and remarks I get about being gay, and worse stuff, when really, I don't have a preference. Is it going to stop me one day when I am ready to find someone? No. But if you think about it, every friendship is love. Not in a lusting way maybe, but there is someone out there for everyone, even if that means just a really great friendship. This is also a realistic way of looking at it.

Okay, I'm not really getting the point of the first part here. Not really sure why you brought up having to deal with homophobic individuals when that wasn't really relevant to my point. As for the proposed 'Love = Friendship' equation, that's sort of complicated. First, you have to actually define what love is. To many, it seems like a magical experience where you can really bond with someone. Really, 'love' is just nature's way of ensuring that everyone procreates and continues the survival of a species. It boils down to simple attraction, which is exaggerated, especially by the media. As for friendship in this regard, sure, you can become fantastic friends with a person and it may seem like love. Really, though, you can't just string the two terms together and expect to be taken seriously.

[Fira-Astrali]

Okay, I'm not really getting the point of the first part here. Not really sure why you brought up having to deal with homophobic individuals when that wasn't really relevant to my point. As for the proposed 'Love = Friendship' equation, that's sort of complicated. First, you have to actually define what love is. To many, it seems like a magical experience where you can really bond with someone. Really, 'love' is just nature's way of ensuring that everyone procreates and continues the survival of a species. It boils down to simple attraction, which is exaggerated, especially by the media. As for friendship in this regard, sure, you can become fantastic friends with a person and it may seem like love. Really, though, you can't just string the two terms together and expect to be taken seriously.

Have you and Sabre met? Because you guys will make excellent friends :P

[Fluxy]

Okay, I'm not really getting the point of the first part here. Not really sure why you brought up having to deal with homophobic individuals when that wasn't really relevant to my point. As for the proposed 'Love = Friendship' equation, that's sort of complicated. First, you have to actually define what love is. To many, it seems like a magical experience where you can really bond with someone. Really, 'love' is just nature's way of ensuring that everyone procreates and continues the survival of a species. It boils down to simple attraction, which is exaggerated, especially by the media. As for friendship in this regard, sure, you can become fantastic friends with a person and it may seem like love. Really, though, you can't just string the two terms together and expect to be taken seriously.

I put the first part to support my own statement. And nobody said they were homophobic. : /.

And okay. If that is truly how you see it, then you need to define love for yourself. You already have my opinion on it. And the whole friendship is just another type of love thing, that is pretty much true. And in my opinion, no. 'Love' was not only meant for procreation.

Have you and Sabre met? Because you guys will make excellent friends

Sadly I agree with Fira.

[Guest Julius Quasar]

I wanna find a mate whom I'll spend the rest of my life with..we can tell folks we've been together "for over 30 years".

"Boy the way the Tokyo Orchestra played"

"Video Games that were a hit parade!"

"Guys like me, we had it made..."

  "Those were the days!"

"...and you knew where you were then!"

"Girls were girls and men were men!"

  "Mister, we could use a man like General Pepper again!"

  :P

[Fira-Astrali]

I wanna find a mate whom I'll spend the rest of my life with..we can tell folks we've been together "for over 30 years".

Yeah, I agree with you. A lifelong love is, I think, one of the most important things you can find in life.

It's kinda wierd that someone my age would be considering something like that, but that's all I've ever wanted in a relationship, and I think that's why I've had so few, I've never really met anyone my age that also wants a relationship that could actually go somewhere. And now... well I guess we'll just have to see what happens

Sadly I agree with Fira.

Awww, come on, I like Sabre I wanna see these two get into a really heated debate tho, that could be quite the sight!

[Fluxy]

Awww, come on, I like Sabre I wanna see these two get into a really heated debate tho, that could be quite the sight!

I just think me and Saber disagree on quite a few points. Nothing wrong with him. :P

[Fira-Astrali]

I just think me and Saber disagree on quite a few points. Nothing wrong with him.

He's a lovely chap I actually wish he would come back to this thread, because the last time we had a chat about this kinda thing, it was fun and insightful :)

[WedgeAntilles66]

I put the first part to support my own statement. And nobody said they were homophobic. : /.

And okay. If that is truly how you see it, then you need to define love for yourself. You already have my opinion on it. And the whole friendship is just another type of love thing, that is pretty much true. And in my opinion, no. 'Love' was not only meant for procreation.

Sadly I agree with Fira.

As for the first part, all right, that makes sense I suppose. You were quoting me, so that's why I brought it up. "Friendship is just another type of love." Okay, you say that's true, and seem pretty adamant about it. I'm sure there'll be plenty who agree with you, but it's just not true. The two mean different things, and there are different levels of friendship. So, to just say something like, "All friendship is love" is an exaggeration of a simple feeling between two or more people. I gave my definition on love, and that is, in essence, its actual definition. According to the dictionary, love is, "sexual passion or desire", and can also be defined as "a profoundly tender, passionate affection for another person". In your opinion, love is not just meant for procreation. From a romantic point of view at least, that really is all that it is. Looking at friendship again, love is simply too extreme of an emotion to make a statement such as the one you made.

Finally, I'm not trying to make anyone live there lives any differently. Despite all that I've said, I'm not trying to make some bold claim and change everyone's lives. I just want you to realize the truth of reality. Maybe it's easier for someone who has been in a real relationship to think it's more than it actually is. If that's the way you feel, that's fine, I'm not trying to demean anyone.

[Fluxy]

As for the first part, all right, that makes sense I suppose. You were quoting me, so that's why I brought it up. "Friendship is just another type of love." Okay, you say that's true, and seem pretty adamant about it. I'm sure there'll be plenty who agree with you, but it's just not true. The two mean different things, and there are different levels of friendship. So, to just say something like, "All friendship is love" is an exaggeration of a simple feeling between two or more people. I gave my definition on love, and that is, in essence, its actual definition. According to the dictionary, love is, "sexual passion or desire", and can also be defined as "a profoundly tender, passionate affection for another person". In your opinion, love is not just meant for procreation. From a romantic point of view at least, that really is all that it is. Looking at friendship again, love is simply too extreme of an emotion to make a statement such as the one you made.

Finally, I'm not trying to make anyone live there lives any differently. Despite all that I've said, I'm not trying to make some bold claim and change everyone's lives. I just want you to realize the truth of reality. Maybe it's easier for someone who has been in a real relationship to think it's more than it actually is. If that's the way you feel, that's fine, I'm not trying to demean anyone.

One question then. Do you love a family member then? And thus said, if it is yes, do you wish to have sexual relations with them? That is my point. Would you fight/get into a debate to help a close friend? If yes, that is a small sign of love. It doesn't need to be related to anything sexual.

[Thu'um]

mhmn, how old is this girl?

i am 14 she is 13 but for now things seemed to have patched up incely i talk to her often  but i don't want to get involved in a reltion ship yet

[Fira-Astrali]

As for the first part, all right, that makes sense I suppose. You were quoting me, so that's why I brought it up. "Friendship is just another type of love." Okay, you say that's true, and seem pretty adamant about it. I'm sure there'll be plenty who agree with you, but it's just not true. The two mean different things, and there are different levels of friendship. So, to just say something like, "All friendship is love" is an exaggeration of a simple feeling between two or more people. I gave my definition on love, and that is, in essence, its actual definition. According to the dictionary, love is, "sexual passion or desire", and can also be defined as "a profoundly tender, passionate affection for another person". In your opinion, love is not just meant for procreation. From a romantic point of view at least, that really is all that it is. Looking at friendship again, love is simply too extreme of an emotion to make a statement such as the one you made.

Finally, I'm not trying to make anyone live there lives any differently. Despite all that I've said, I'm not trying to make some bold claim and change everyone's lives. I just want you to realize the truth of reality. Maybe it's easier for someone who has been in a real relationship to think it's more than it actually is. If that's the way you feel, that's fine, I'm not trying to demean anyone.

Uhurm, I recognized that second quote, the "a profoundly tender, passionate affection for one another" because it's one Dictionary.com word for word. http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/love the second definition it has there is "a feeling of warm personal attachment or deep affection, as for a parent, child, or friend. " and i see you used the third one "sexual passion or desire". Don't be using the dictionary definitions as a defence, because it's proving you both right, and you twisted the information by skipping over the ones that destroy your point and only use the ones that help so that you could prove him soley wrong.

[WedgeAntilles66]

One question then. Do you love a family member then? And thus said, if it is yes, do you wish to have sexual relations with them? That is my point. Would you fight/get into a debate to help a close friend? If yes, that is a small sign of love. It doesn't need to be related to anything sexual.

I know what you're saying, and I covered that in my post when talking about friendship. Now, for the questions. In short, I don't love anyone. I'm mostly an apathetic person, so love is just too extreme of an emotion for me to want to deal with. I don't even have any friends. That might seem cruel, but it's sort of complicated. Mostly, I'm just too busy to deal with anybody else's problems. Will I ever love someone? I don't know. Maybe, but now, it's just not something I want to deal with. I mean, I wouldn't mind having a relationship, but I'm not really looking for love.

[Thu'um]

I know what you're saying, and I covered that in my post when talking about friendship. Now, for the questions. In short, I don't love anyone. I'm mostly an apathetic person, so love is just too extreme of an emotion for me to want to deal with. I don't even have any friends. That might seem cruel, but it's sort of complicated. Mostly, I'm just too busy to deal with anybody else's problems. Will I ever love someone? I don't know. Maybe, but now, it's just not something I want to deal with. I mean, I wouldn't mind having a relationship, but I'm not really looking for love.

but when you are an old man in your 80's the hard times make life remaberal and worth while

[WedgeAntilles66]

Uhurm, I recognized that second quote, the "a profoundly tender, passionate affection for one another" because it's one Dictionary.com word for word. http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/love the second definition it has there is "a feeling of warm personal attachment or deep affection, as for a parent, child, or friend. " and i see you used the third one "sexual passion or desire". Don't be using the dictionary definitions as a defence if your going to skip over the ones that destroy your point and only use the ones that help.

I realize its source, I even stated it was from the Dictionary. I wasn't specific, but I wasn't trying to hide my source. Also, I didn't bring up the aforementioned definition because it's basically the same thing as the one I gave. Further, it doesn't destroy my point. I brought up both definitions in an attempt to give an unbiased view on the subject. One was dealing with love in a romantic setting, the other relating to friendship.

[Fira-Astrali]

I realize its source, I even stated it was from the Dictionary. I wasn't specific, but I wasn't trying to hide my source. Also, I didn't bring up the aforementioned definition because it's basically the same thing as the one I gave. Further, it doesn't destroy my point. I brought up both definitions in an attempt to give an unbiased view on the subject. One was dealing with love in a romantic setting, the other relating to friendship.

okay, you also said above that love was too extreme an emotion to label a friendship with, and that it's meant only for procreation, when it says right in the dictionary that love does pertain to friendships, and your trying to use the dictionary definition to back up your point even though it doesn't... so what exactly have you proven?

[WedgeAntilles66]

okay, you also said above that love was too extreme an emotion to label a friendship with, and that it's meant only for procreation, when it says right in the dictionary that love does pertain to friendships, and your trying to use the dictionary definition to back up your point even though it doesn't... so what exactly have you proven?

I'll be honest. My original definition wasn't specific, and it may seem confusing. However, that's because originally I was only addressing the topic of love when pertaining to romance. I then expanded upon it and explained its purpose within friendship. All of the points I have made thus far are accurate.

[Thu'um]

you guys.... make love way to defined when it isn't  O_o

[Fluxy]

you guys.... make love way to defined when it isn't 

Might wanna be careful when you say it pluralily. Not everyone is defining it specifically on what it is. : /...

[Thu'um]

fira is female, yes? i said guys. i shoulda used quetos to point out how i was talking too    :lol:

[Fluxy]

fira is female, yes? i said guys. i shoulda used quetos to point out how i was talking too   

I was more referring to the point that I too have not gave it exact definition, just saying it can be more. I use the term 'Guys' when talking to a group of people, not only boys.