Love Life Talk

[PsyMuffin]

That's really sweet of you, thank you!

Yeah, tell her to give this forum a chance! We're all nice here :3

Will do my friend, and yes, everyone here is great at being kind. :)

[Gestalt]

She was an artist. Beautiful red hair. A warm blanket on a cold work day. When i first met her, she striked me as a bananna. One of the types you had to peel open to get to the good stuff...Well i decided to give it a try.

And fate would have it that we we're to draw together. My work looked like an ass if you'd ask me, but she was too kind. I saw the love of my life, the only person i'd even dare to get to know like this, look me in the eye and tell me she needed someone who wounldn't just be another friend for she had plenty of those.

But then, it happened. I let pride get the best of me. I was too young to know better. For, i was too high and mighty. I would not be controlled. Placed at the mercy of another. But don't worry i didn't do any backstabbing...just kinda gave up on the stuff and haven't searched for it since. Now i wear the shame bucket. She's still a friend. Just lost a the drive to make it more than that.

>And that's the emo reason i don't make draws anymore. I simply won't have it. It reminds me too much of her.

[sroberson]

She was an artist. Beautiful red hair. A warm blanket on a cold work day. When i first met her, she striked me as a bananna. One of the types you had to peel open to get to the good stuff...Well i decided to give it a try.

And fate would have it that we we're to draw together. My work looked like an ass if you'd ask me, but she was too kind. I saw the love of my life, the only person i'd even dare to get to know like this, look me in the eye and tell me she needed someone who wounldn't just be another friend for she had plenty of those.

But then, it happened. I let pride get the best of me. I was too young to know better. For, i was too high and mighty. I would not be controlled. Placed at the mercy of another. But don't worry i didn't do any backstabbing...just kinda gave up on the stuff and haven't searched for it since. Now i wear the shame bucket. She's still a friend. Just lost a the drive to make it more than that.

>And that's the emo reason i don't make draws anymore. I simply won't have it. It reminds me too much of her.

Funny, that seems to happen to me a lot...but the other way around ):

Actually I guess the latest round of that happening is why I disappeared from here for a little while. Was just kind of bitter about it.

[LoneWolf]

>And that's the emo reason i don't make draws anymore. I simply won't have it. It reminds me too much of her.

Shit sucks, man. The best advice I can give is to just go back at it. Be close friends with her again, then if/when she's ready to step it up again, do that. Worst case scenario you end up really good lifelong friends.

*shrug* I suppose I'm not much to offer advice on this sort of thing, but guessing by seeing bros dump and be dumped.

[StarFoxfan-FUR_ever]

Of all the things that could go wrong....she's stated her love for me, but one problem. She's atheist....why must this happen? She's such a good person at heart, and now i dont know what to think about anything or what to say to her.

[sroberson]

Of all the things that could go wrong....she's stated her love for me, but one problem. She's atheist....why must this happen? She's such a good person at heart, and now i dont know what to think about anything or what to say to her.

I guess this is me looking from the side of agnosticism and near atheism, but I don't see what the issue would be with dating someone who is an atheist so long as they aren't a terrible person. Personally I don't think I would like to talk "God is great!" all the time in a relationship anyways even if I were a more religious person and would rather talk about something else.

["User"]

I guess this is me looking from the side of agnosticism and near atheism, but I don't see what the issue would be with dating someone who is an atheist so long as they aren't a terrible person. Personally I don't think I would like to talk "God is great!" all the time in a relationship anyways even if I were a more religious person and would rather talk about something else.

In some religions it's expressly forbidden or at least discouraged. That includes dating.

[sroberson]

In some religions it's expressly forbidden or at least discouraged. That includes dating.

Yeah I know, just seems silly to me that I should be told who is right and wrong by strange standards

(No offense to anyone I promise)

[Redeemer]

Of all the things that could go wrong....she's stated her love for me, but one problem. She's atheist....why must this happen? She's such a good person at heart, and now i dont know what to think about anything or what to say to her.

R3d and I had very different views on religion when we first started out. Give her a chance, don't shut her out just because of her beliefs.

[Fluxy]

For some people, beliefs in a person is what is mostly important to them. I'm not saying that's right, as many people think, and have the right, to feel the way they do in what the more important qualities are in a person.

If religion is that important to you, or even if it isn't, my personal judgment is looking on what she is. She might be Atheist, but does she end up standing for the same morals that you do? Do the lessons your religion teach correspond to what she believes in? I think if you can see that in her, that she'll make you mentally at peace.

Now how your family sees her could be different, but at the end of the day, it's about how you make her feel, and how she makes you feel. I know you'll get it straightened out soon enough.

[Cavemonkynick]

So, I think I may have met someone. Well I didn't just meet her. We met when I started college about 2 years ago. We always got along great. Then after not seeing her for a while because I had to stop going to school last spring we end up at the movies last night with some friends. We hit it off so this morning I finally worked up the nerve to ask if she was seeing anyone, She's not so because I'm such a smooth operator *SarcasmSarcasmSarcasm* I quoted Stewie from Family Guy, "Listen, stab in the dark but you wanna do something sometime?" I'M A WRITER LOL! Lucky for me that didn't blow my chances and she said yes. Things are finally looking up me my friends, and let me be the first to say, It's about bucking time.

[Redeemer]

Cavemonkeynick is BACK, motherbuckers.

[Cavemonkynick]

Cavemonkeynick is BACK, motherbuckers.

Was there ever any doubt with hair like mine? Chicks dig the hair

[Mr. Krystal]

I know how you feel StarFoxfan-FUR_ever. I met the most amazing girl at the Game Developer's Conference this year. Somehow, for reasons I can't explain, we just hit it off, talking about everything the whole day. I thought I had no chance, like always, so I was just happy to be able to talk to a girl intelligently about technical subject matter.

But then something amazing happened. She emailed me after the conference and asked me a bunch of questions. We've been in email contact ever since. She is genuinely interested in what I'm working on and really likes talking to me. This is a first for me. Without actually saying it, it seems she is getting more and more interested in me.

And she is AMAZING! If I were to make out a list to describe my perfect woman, I would never expect to get more than a 50% hit rate for any given woman, but this girl is like 80% and climbing. It's as if she was MADE for me, kinda scary how much we have in common.

I'm hoping to get to the point where I can find out once and for all if she really does like me for sure. I certainly like her. But I don't want to move too fast, that killed my one and only prior potential relationship before it even started.

There's just one problem: she's not a Christian. I don't know if she's an Atheist. Probably more of an Agnostic. She seems open and interested to hear about my studies of the Bible. It's a matter of long-term quality of life. If a Christian marries a non-Christan, chances are pretty high it will seriously hurt the Christian's faith. For a matter like Christianity, something I would die for and consider marriage a close second in importance, it's entirely reasonable to forego a relationship with a woman if she's not in the same life-altering boat. Makes me sad to think about, but that's the way things are.

[psy_commando]

There's just one problem: she's not a Christian. I don't know if she's an Atheist. Probably more of an Agnostic. She seems open and interested to hear about my studies of the Bible. It's a matter of long-term quality of life. If a Christian marries a non-Christan, chances are pretty high it will seriously hurt the Christian's faith. For a matter like Christianity, something I would die for and consider marriage a close second in importance, it's entirely reasonable to forego a relationship with a woman if she's not in the same life-altering boat. Makes me sad to think about, but that's the way things are.

I'm far from being a reference in love relationship.

But what you're saying there is really distressing. You would forsake good times for 2 people, just based on the unfounded fear that you'd loose your faith ?

If I did learn something in life, is that you should not let your fears control what you do, or you'll deeply regret it later. And believe me I had my share of regrets..

I'm sorry if I offend you, but I really really really think you should reconsider before doing anything.

Plus as far as marriage go, its not insane to think she may or not be eventually interested, or convinced, in either converting, or "pretending"(getting the batism but ignoring the rest) to be christian ?

So that's it, it had to get out, I'll shut up now.

[Scourge]

Religion shouldnt interfere with relationships. Period. They're things entirely seperate to eachother in modern perception.

The kinds of things you're basing your claims on "If a Christian marries a non-Christan, chances are pretty high it will seriously hurt the Christian's faith." is based on statistics no?

Lemmie drop a good ol' Perry Cox quote on ya: "statistics mean nothing to the individual"

Toxxic is christian and im agnostic, but I recognize that its something important to her, so I go along with it and support it. If this girl really cares for you Mr.K, she'll do the same.

[Fluxy]

Religion shouldnt interfere with relationships. Period. They're things entirely seperate to eachother in modern perception.

The kinds of things you're basing your claims on "If a Christian marries a non-Christan, chances are pretty high it will seriously hurt the Christian's faith." is based on statistics no?

Lemmie drop a good ol' Perry Cox quote on ya: "statistics mean nothing to the individual"

Toxxic is christian and im agnostic, but I recognize that its something important to her, so I go along with it and support it. If this girl really cares for you Mr.K, she'll do the same.

Well then you clearly don't realize much. Modern times, yes, a lot of people are -very- understanding and open to more things. You can have that opinion that the two shouldn't mix, but Religion is, you know, kind of a huge thing, and -very- important to people. It's kinda why we're still having all that gay marriage crap. I won't use that as any form of argument, as it's a little off topic, but that is an example of Religion hindering 'love' in a large population.

They're simply saying that they want someone Christian, and are questioning what to do. I think that's pretty big in its self, seeing as they easily could also say "Ooop, you're not Christian? See ya." Marriage and relationships, to those who are religious, affect the ones they are in greatly, and make them choose just how far they are going to "Follow" the bible/teachings/whichever you're looking at.

I agree with you, on thinking they'd be easier off not caring about that, but to many people, this is serious shit. Who the other believe is their lord and savior really means a lot. So unless their decision on whether or not they'd enjoy to even date someone is based off if their religion is the same, then you know, that's alright. They aren't hurting the world by simply, and nicely, declining an offer.

Statistics have nothing to do with it.

[LoneWolf]

There's just one problem: she's not a Christian. I don't know if she's an Atheist. Probably more of an Agnostic. She seems open and interested to hear about my studies of the Bible. It's a matter of long-term quality of life. If a Christian marries a non-Christan, chances are pretty high it will seriously hurt the Christian's faith. For a matter like Christianity, something I would die for and consider marriage a close second in importance, it's entirely reasonable to forego a relationship with a woman if she's not in the same life-altering boat. Makes me sad to think about, but that's the way things are.

I've given this some thought before. Though my current mate is Christian, I've often considered the possiblility that if we break up, my next one won't be.

After much thinking, I came up with an idea. Though sometimes people profess atheism, most people who aren't believers just don't believe because they've had no reason to. That got me thinking, and eventually I think I've come up wit ha good argument. What's the harm in becoming a Christian, if they're already a moderate person who doesn't live a lifestyle too different from a Christian one (e.g. they're morally in-line). They really have nothing to lose. So what if maybe Christians are wrong, and there isn't a God. You're dead and your consciousness would end there, in that case. So maybe having something to hope for is a better way to live.

Hopefully that makes a shred of sense. That ended up really muddled.

TL;DR, what have they to lose in becoming a Christian? That's a decent argument.

Also edit @ Scourge: The problem lies in the fact that essentially, Christians believe in an afterlife, and if you're not Christian, you might not get into heaven. Which puts you smack-dab in the middle of hell, which they don't want for you. It's more of a problem of how much they care for you than a problem of differing views.

[Steve]

I am dying to contribute to the debate, but this is not a debate topic soo, someone should create a topic on the counter point. Specially because it has religion in it.

[Fluxy]

I am dying to contribute to the debate, but this is not a debate topic soo, someone should create a topic on the counter point. Specially because it has religion in it.

If it really wants to keep going forward, then yeah, go ahead and make a topic yourself, Steve, since you also wanna contribute. But either way, this is a relationship topic, and Religion really affects it at times. Little things like this should totally be cool, right?

Of course if it -kept- going, sure into the Counter point. Just making sure light discussions on things that could possibly go in the CP is okay here.

[Redeemer]

If no one's made a topic by now, I'll make it. :3

Anyway, to bring this topic back to love lives - many of you already know this but as soon as my university starts, I'll be seeking help on finding a job in Germany in order to secure an income, as I aim to move over there next year. R3d's best friend, Tybrone, has been talking to me about requirements and basically - because I already live in the EU - I can just move there whenever I want.

Of course I need to finish my degree, I only have like, 8 months left until I get it (providing I pass everything of course). Then I'll need to secure a job so that I can afford a flat. Also, it's going to cost me at least £300 per kitty to move over. They need their own passports.

... I really hope they mean literal passports with photos. That would be too adorable.

[Steve]

Anyway, to bring this topic back to love lives - many of you already know this but as soon as my university starts, I'll be seeking help on finding a job in Germany in order to secure an income, as I aim to move over there next year. R3d's best friend, Tybrone, has been talking to me about requirements and basically - because I already live in the EU - I can just move there whenever I want.

You are really lucky on that regard, cause' the US makes it almost impossible for me to move in there :P

[Redeemer]

You are really lucky on that regard, cause' the US makes it almost impossible for me to move in there

Oh yes, I'm so thankful about my luck here, R3dFiVe and I live kind of "close" in terms of being on the same continent. With any luck, I'll move to Germany by next year and that will be that!

[Steve]

It's not about the distance but the way a country handles immigration, distance can be covered with money, but immigration, only with patience and luck :P

[Redeemer]

Yes, but distance here also meant easier access to that country. XD