Humanies

[Guest Julius Quasar]

Try the fact amphibians DON'T HAVE RIBCAGES. Or amniotic eggs at that.

That too!

[Guest DRL]

Ah...

Yeah, unless you achieve some scientific/gene splicing breakthrough...

But that could only happen in like...

In year 4020... We are half-way...

Does anyone have a time-machine

around? :lol:

[LoneWolf]

But that could only happen in like...

In year 4020... We are half-way...

Does anyone have a time-machine

around?

Actually, genetics just took a HUGE LEAP!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science_and_environment/10134341.stm

Although, scientifically it is impossible to change existing humans into anthros. You would have to restructure the entire face, and the feet, probably change the muscle arrangement, and various other things. They could make you grow fur, but probably not a muzzle and ears. They may also be able to graft on a tail, but thinking of them tinkering with my nerve endings scares me.

OFF TOPIC: We did not evolve. God put us here.

[Guest Scorpion03]

It's already possible under certain circumstances for humans to grow a tail, we already have the correct bone structure, but unless it was grown naturally it would be a nightmare creating a nervous system that would allow you to accurately move it which would be necesary to maintain some for of balance

[LoneWolf]

It's already possible under certain circumstances for humans to grow a tail, we already have the correct bone structure, but unless it was grown naturally it would be a nightmare creating a nervous system that would allow you to accurately move it which would be necesary to maintain some for of balance

We do have a tailbone, in truth, but in order to grow a tail we would need to create new vertebrae for our spines, as the tails on animals are just extensions of the spine. This, however, would be impossible without some form of accellerated growth, which:

A) Would be extremely painful

B) May not work (Think "Birth defect")

C) Would be difficult to create

Not to mention that the skin would have to grow naturally on the tail over time, so for a few weeks you would just have a...not going to describe it, it may be too disturbing for children (If there are any on these boards)

[Guest Scorpion03]

Nah, ure thinking far too simply, it would be nigh impossible to grow it on the body, but theres no reason why it has to be grown on the body, we have already shown how simple it is to grow organs, including bone, so theres no reason why it cant be grown and 'attached, like i said though it would take some work to get the nerves sorted so that it is possible to control without thinking about it, or ud just wander round like u were drunk all the time

[LoneWolf]

Nah, ure thinking far too simply, it would be nigh impossible to grow it on the body, but theres no reason why it has to be grown on the body, we have already shown how simple it is to grow organs, including bone, so theres no reason why it cant be grown and 'attached, like i said though it would take some work to get the nerves sorted so that it is possible to control without thinking about it, or ud just wander round like u were drunk all the time

Have you ever had a dentist hit a nerve?

If you have, imagine that 1000+ times worse.

If you haven't...be glad you haven't.

Having someone mess with your nervous system and attempt to attach another limb would hurt like hell. Your body may also reject the new organ too, as with all synthetic organs.

[Guest Scorpion03]

hmm, im not suggested a synthetic organ or an organ taken from another creature, that would last maybe 5 years max, im suggesting growing one from scratch with your own genetic material, it would be possible, and i know what its like to have ure nervous system messed with... It will definately be the most painful thing in your life while it gets done, but it depends how determined you are.... people have their toungue split down the middle to make it more like that of a lizzard, same idea on a much larger scale.

That said im not that brave to actually try something like this, i dont fancy months of pain just for a tail, but it is possible.

[LoneWolf]

hmm, im not suggested a synthetic organ or an organ taken from another creature, that would last maybe 5 years max, im suggesting growing one from scratch with your own genetic material, it would be possible, and i know what its like to have ure nervous system messed with... It will definately be the most painful thing in your life while it gets done, but it depends how determined you are.... people have their toungue split down the middle to make it more like that of a lizzard, same idea on a much larger scale.

That said im not that brave to actually try something like this, i dont fancy months of pain just for a tail, but it is possible.

Yeah, but getting your tongue split would not hurt anywhere near as bad as this would. It would be like having open heart surgery with no painkiller.

Ugh, when I think of this I think of

*WARNING: DISTURBING DESCRIPTION*

I think of an operating room with a man tethered face down to a table, screaming in pain while doctors attatch the nerve endings, blood is all over the floor, walls, and doctors. After the procedure is over, the doctors have to take multiple baths to get the smell of...stuff off of them. Have fun sleeping on that thought!

[Scott7]

Actually, genetics just took a HUGE LEAP!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science_and_environment/10134341.stm

Although, scientifically it is impossible to change existing humans into anthros. You would have to restructure the entire face, and the feet, probably change the muscle arrangement, and various other things. They could make you grow fur, but probably not a muzzle and ears. They may also be able to graft on a tail, but thinking of them tinkering with my nerve endings scares me.

Hmph, I wouldn't be to surprised if they eventually did have a surgery for that, But the cost would be pretty high. And the religous groups would be complaining every waking moment of the day until its made illegal...

[Guest Scorpion03]

Yeah, but getting your tongue split would not hurt anywhere near as bad as this would. It would be like having open heart surgery with no painkiller.

Ugh, when I think of this I think of

*WARNING: DISTURBING DESCRIPTION*

I think of an operating room with a man tethered face down to a table, screaming in pain while doctors attatch the nerve endings, blood is all over the floor, walls, and doctors. After the procedure is over, the doctors have to take multiple baths to get the smell of...stuff off of them. Have fun sleeping on that thought!

haha, i think u might be pretty close to the mark on that one. The other problem of course is that the tail would probably not grow all nice and furry, it would very likely be flesh, but no fur  :?

[LoneWolf]

haha, i think u might be pretty close to the mark on that one. The other problem of course is that the tail would probably not grow all nice and furry, it would very likely be flesh, but no fur 

Other than that, it would most likely be a grey color, for the lack of blood (Your heart has to do 1.5x the work now!) would turn it that color.

Man, this topic is getting really weird...and disturbing, but I credit that to me. 

Hmph, I wouldn't be to surprised if they eventually did have a surgery for that, But the cost would be pretty high. And the religous groups would be complaining every waking moment of the day until its made illegal...

Yeah...I hadn't thought of the cost.

Although, I don't think that the religious groups would be too concerned, I know I wouldn't be.

[Guest Scorpion03]

hmmm, yeh, if u were going to get this work done, i think the cost would be very high, and ure right this topic is getting a little disturbing.

As for the religious groups, i think they would have something to say about it, they have something to say about everything and it does involve defacing yourself... they never like that, i dont know about america, but in the uk theyre even trying to ban calcium implants in the skin to change the shape of your skin, so they would definately hate people getting tails.

[LoneWolf]

hmmm, yeh, if u were going to get this work done, i think the cost would be very high, and ure right this topic is getting a little disturbing.

As for the religious groups, i think they would have something to say about it, they have something to say about everything and it does involve defacing yourself... they never like that, i dont know about america, but in the uk theyre even trying to ban calcium implants in the skin to change the shape of your skin, so they would definately hate people getting tails.

Land of the free FTW

[Guest DRL]

Land of the free FTW

But still, many people (mainly furry haters)

would do their best to have this banned.

I suppose it would be possible to put up

a debate on the congress/parliament of

your country.

Actually, genetics just took a HUGE LEAP!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science_and_environment/10134341.stm

Although, scientifically it is impossible to change existing humans into anthros. You would have to restructure the entire face, and the feet, probably change the muscle arrangement, and various other things. They could make you grow fur, but probably not a muzzle and ears. They may also be able to graft on a tail, but thinking of them tinkering with my nerve endings scares me.

As I have said, the technology is still

FaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaR away

from today. Even with today's best,

I would not suggest undergoing any

change.

OFF TOPIC: We did not evolve. God put us here.

OFF TOPIC: < Atheist. We evolved or mutated,

            but we were not 'created'.

[LoneWolf]

But still, many people (mainly furry haters)

would do their best to have this banned.

I suppose it would be possible to put up

a debate on the congress/parliament of

your country.

As I have said, the technology is still

FaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaR away

from today. Even with today's best,

I would not suggest undergoing any

change.OFF TOPIC: < Atheist. We evolved or mutated,

            but we were not 'created'.

Well, since it is impossible, what's the point of debating the morality of it?

Off topic: God > Atheism

Quoting Genisis 1:27:

So God created man in his own image, in the image of God he created him, male and female he created them.

God intentionally made it difficult to alter ourselves without entirely mutilating our bodies.

Besides, I'd like to see you explain how apes and monkeys are still around if we have already evolved to something more intelligent.

Side note: WAAAAY  now.

[Guest DRL]

Side note: WAAAAY  now.

Agreed.

Besides, I'd like to see you explain how apes and monkeys are still around if we have already evolved to something more intelligent.

That is why many of use believe

humans did not 'evolve' but 'mutated',

and then 'evolded' - at some point,

some DNA changed abrutly, and it

continue to improve/change since it.

Quoting Genisis 1:27:

So God created man in his own image, in the image of God he created him, male and female he created them.

God intentionally made it difficult to alter ourselves without entirely mutilating our bodies.

Humans wrote the Bible.

Therefore, from an atheist point

of view:

So we will give our God our shape; we are it's greatest creation.

Acording to the Chatolic Bible, humans are god's greatest

creation. It is debatable the entire "we are the greatest thing

on Earth" thing, but the fact that the Bible was writen by man

(and therefore not a god) gives enought veredict that it can

be wrong.

Additionally, when broken down to logic all religious things

start to collapse.

According to the Chatolic Bible, god created the world in 7 days,

were it has been proven that it took millions of years for

this to happen. Some have say that the '7 days' is a figurative term,

and that they meant the geological process of earth. But then, it

never mentions the creatures prior to the human period.

Dinosaurs, for example.

[Guest Scorpion03]

as im not religious in the slightest, i definately agree with DRL

[Robert Monroe]

Whoa, what the heeeeeeeeell happened in this topic.

The problems with genetic alteration of the human body is simple: that is pratically bordering on EUGENICS territory. Nextly, the reasons humans don't have tails is BECAUSE WE DON'T NEED THEM. Our bodies are designed to stand erect and upright, and tails are used for maintaining balance, or as an extra limb. Humans maintain balance just fine without a tail, hence why our tiny little bones at the end of our spine never develop, and we have no pratical application of using a tail (such as living in an aboral enviroment). This is just one more biologic problem with anthromorphic animals.

OFF TOPIC: We did not evolve. God put us here.

God used evolution. I certainly would call a biological system of adaptation where species who are useless die out and the strong live on to pass down their genes an Intelligent Design. captain we seem to be hurling at high speeds towards the pub

Seriously, cut out the religion talk. This isn't the topic for it. The Bible was written by a bunch of men in the late Roman Empire, tranlasting letters and Hebrew verbal stories into Latin, the end. It is incredibly vague and full of metaphors and parables and a thousand other sorts of literary devices, and what have you, and we will never know HOW EXACTLY God created humans, and Evolution and Intelligent Design, beleive it or not, are not mutally exclusive clubs of thought, paticularly because Evolution is scientifically based and Creationism is PHILOSOPHICAL.

On topic using science to turn humans into animals is stupid and waste of resources we could be dedicating to something more productive, like curing cancer.

[Scott7]

Whoa, what the heeeeeeeeell happened in this topic.

On topic using science to turn humans into animals is stupid and waste of resources we could be dedicating to something more productive, like curing cancer.

Why Hasn't that been Done yet??!!

[Robert Monroe]

Why Hasn't that been Done yet??!!

Because cancer is a huge asshole that is never really the same twice for any two people.

[Milkyway64]

This topic went to hell pretty fast.

So, uh, humanies! Despite Fox's swears in the video, like furries it probably does have a strong connection to sex. What would they call their version of yiff?

[LoneWolf]

This topic went to hell pretty fast.

Whoa, what the heeeeeeeeell happened in this topic.

Heh...sorry for throwing us off topic guys. 

Science vs. Religion can spring up anywhere, can't it?

I would think that the reason an anthro would want to be a human is the same reason we want to be anthros. To be different. To be something other than what we currently are. That's why, for the million or so years that man has been on earth, we still dress up and costumes of religious figures, animals, or even mythological creatures. As humans, we just like to pretend!

(As for evolution, I'm part of the 50% that don't believe in it, and you guys can be in the other 50%, so let's all just be friends and stop with the stupid religion talk, okay?  )

[Robert Monroe]

What would they call their version of yiff?

Intercourse.

Science vs. Religion can spring up anywhere, can't it?

The problem with this is that science and religon don't have to be enemies. They aren't even the same schools of thought, one is about facts and understanding shit, the other is about spirituality and philosophy. Science and religion are actually very capable of being good friends.

[LoneWolf]

The problem with this is that science and religon don't have to be enemies. They aren't even the same schools of thought, one is about facts and understanding shit, the other is about spirituality and philosophy. Science and religion are actually very capable of being good friends.

The problem is that science completely denies the existence of God or really, any other Deity. You can be a Christian scientist, but you can't display the fact in your work. Otherwise people get pretty angry.