Humanies

[Guest DRL]

Heh...sorry for throwing us off topic guys. 

Science vs. Religion can spring up anywhere, can't it?

It was partly my fault as well,

I sometimes go outspoken.

I would think that the reason an anthro would want to be a human is the same reason we want to be anthros. To be different. To be something other than what we currently are. That's why, for the million or so years that man has been on earth, we still dress up and costumes of religious figures, animals, or even mythological creatures. As humans, we just like to pretend!

Agreed.

[Robert Monroe]

The problem is that science completely denies the existence of God or really, any other Deity. You can be a Christian scientist, but you can't display the fact in your work. Otherwise people get pretty angry.

Science does not provide any way of disproving God. God is SUPERnatural. Beyond the scope of science. If, science could deny or disprove God, then he would not in fact BE GOD.

There have been plenty of Christian scientists. Like Isaac Newton.

[LoneWolf]

Science does not provide any way of disproving God. God is SUPERnatural. Beyond the scope of science. If, science could deny or disprove God, then he would not in fact BE GOD.

There have been plenty of Christian scientists. Like Isaac Newton.

Thanks for the good example! And yes, there is no way to disprove God, only ways to prove him.

It's a bit like dark matter. The universe is about 25% matter, so what makes up the rest? Dark matter, perhaps, but we cannot see, hear, or touch dark matter, but it must be there because there must be something to fill that space, logically.

[Guest DRL]

Thanks for the good example! And yes, there is no way to disprove God, only ways to prove him.

It's a bit like dark matter. The universe is about 25% matter, so what makes up the rest? Dark matter, perhaps, but we cannot see, hear, or touch dark matter, but it must be there because there must be something to fill that space, logically.

Wrong. Any god or deity would be classified

as 'Metaphysical'. Hard-core science DOES

NEGATE the existence of a god.

Why? Because there is NO WAY TO PROVE

IT EXISTS AND EVOLUTION DENIES IT.

This happened during the early industrial ages.

Why can not 'a god' in science exist?

Well, let's see the chatolic god, for example.

It says it is 'omnipotent' and 'creator of everything',

ect.

It has been scientifically proven that there has not

been a 'creator of everything' = Evolutionary/geological

processes.

'Omnipotent' = Negates the laws of physics = False.

Result = No god.

In the end...

It is simple; if you mix religion with science, one

of them is going to lose. To the Atheist,

religion is false, as science negates the 'creationism'.

To the religious, science is a product of man and thus

can not prove that religion is false.

Of course if you take things into spirituality, that is

another thing. Many people say that 'god(s)' exist

in 'a world we can not see'.

But anyways, I am more of a sometimes-hardcore atheist.

To me there is no hell or heaven, no god or demon.

In the same vein, you being religions will not accept

that science negates a god. It is ok, everyone has it's

point of view, you believe that there is a god, I do not,

we are all fine.

[Falcory]

This discussion seems to be getting a little religious, guys. We should probably stop before flaming erupts.  :|

[Robert Monroe]

Wrong. Any god or deity would be classified

as 'Metaphysical'. Hard-core science DOES

NEGATE the existence of a god.

Why? Because there is NO WAY TO PROVE

IT EXISTS AND EVOLUTION DENIES IT.

This happened during the early industrial ages.

Why can not 'a god' in science exist?

Well, let's see the chatolic god, for example.

It says it is 'omnipotent' and 'creator of everything',

ect.

It has been scientifically proven that there has not

been a 'creator of everything' = Evolutionary/geological

processes.

'Omnipotent' = Negates the laws of physics = False.

Result = No god.

In the end...

It is simple; if you mix religion with science, one

of them is going to lose. To the Atheist,

religion is false, as science negates the 'creationism'.

To the religious, science is a product of man and thus

can not prove that religion is false.

Of course if you take things into spirituality, that is

another thing. Many people say that 'god(s)' exist

in 'a world we can not see'.

But anyways, I am more of a sometimes-hardcore atheist.

To me there is no hell or heaven, no god or demon.

In the same vein, you being religions will not accept

that science negates a god. It is ok, everyone has it's

point of view, you believe that there is a god, I do not,

we are all fine.

Evolution does not deny God. All the Bible says is HURFDURF GOD MADE ANIMALS AND THEN HE MADE MAN. I see no way in how Evolution breaks this. Secondly, if you can not DISPROVE something anymore than you CAN prove it, then the arguement is moot. God does indeed not belong in science, because science is the human understanding of how the world rolls. There has not ben scientific disproof of "Creator", just proof of HOW THINGS WERE CREATED. And this isn't even going into the fact that WE DON'T KNOW WHAT GOD IS. Science does not negate shit, it EXPLAINS it. The only thing it can disprove is OUTDATED science, like the orbits of the planets. Again, SCIENCE AND RELIGION ARE TWP SEPERATE FIELDS OF THOUGHT. You can beleive in God and still accept that the earth was created by SWIRLING GAS AND DIRT PARTICLES.

As for the laws of physics, again: God is SUPERnatural. Beyond the natural. He is, suppoedly, BEYOND the natural world. Beyond human scope, beyond all tht. Now, you can go HURFDURF WELL I CAN'T BELEIVE IN SOMETHING LIKE THAT, well be my fvcking geust because I give NO shit. BUT to have the audacity to say that this DISPROVES God is BULLLLLLLLSHIT. It is arrogant, it is false, and it is ignorant to the dogma surrounding the religion.

I really don't give a shit how much of an atheist you are or what you beleive, but buttfvck get your facts straight. Science can never disprove WHAT ISN'T WITHIN ITS SCOPE. It is a device of HUMANS to UNDERSTAND how things WORK. It is not the anti-existence of religion. The anti-existence of SUPERSTITON, maybe, but that is it.

I love science. I love God. I love understanding how the world works, down to the tiniest detail. And when people make ASSHOLE statements like this, making science out to be something its not, my blood boils. Science is the subject of curiosity and knowledge. Leave it the hell alone.

[Vy'drach]

What would they call their version of yiff?

Considering "yiff" got the name due to the sound foxes make when they want to mate, I think it'd be either "moan" or "hey babe."

[Robert Monroe]

Considering "yiff" got the name due to the sound foxes make when they want to mate, I think it'd be either "moan" or "hey babe."

I'm totally gonna have some moan tonight.

[Vy'drach]

I'm totally gonna have some moan tonight.

It's official, moan is a meme.

[Robert Monroe]

It's official, moan is a meme.

Well now its not.

Thanks alot, jerk!

[Vy'drach]

Well now its not.

Thanks alot, jerk!

What I said was kind of an in-joke.

[Sableye]

Wrong. Any god or deity would be classified

as 'Metaphysical'. Hard-core science DOES

NEGATE the existence of a god.

Why? Because there is NO WAY TO PROVE

IT EXISTS AND EVOLUTION DENIES IT.

This happened during the early industrial ages.

Why can not 'a god' in science exist?

Well, let's see the chatolic god, for example.

It says it is 'omnipotent' and 'creator of everything',

ect.

It has been scientifically proven that there has not

been a 'creator of everything' = Evolutionary/geological

processes.

'Omnipotent' = Negates the laws of physics = False.

Result = No god.

In the end...

It is simple; if you mix religion with science, one

of them is going to lose. To the Atheist,

religion is false, as science negates the 'creationism'.

To the religious, science is a product of man and thus

can not prove that religion is false.

Of course if you take things into spirituality, that is

another thing. Many people say that 'god(s)' exist

in 'a world we can not see'.

But anyways, I am more of a sometimes-hardcore atheist.

To me there is no hell or heaven, no god or demon.

In the same vein, you being religions will not accept

that science negates a god. It is ok, everyone has it's

point of view, you believe that there is a god, I do not,

we are all fine.

Kay.

Go check Job 26:7.

Here.

7 He is stretching out the north over the empty place,

Hanging the earth upon nothing;

That the bible proves that the earth floating in space,

760 years before The Greeks figured it out.

And some people says that Life is too complex to be come into by chance,

but rather designed by A a Creator.

and Jeremiah 8:7.

7 Even the stork in the heavens—it well knows its appointed times; and the turtledove and the swift and the bulbul—they observe well the time of each one’s coming in. But as for my people, they have not come to know the judgment of Jehovah.”’

Here shows that birds migrate.

I can show you more, but I decide to stop here.

Go and tead this on your Bible.

[Vy'drach]

I mean really, what happened to this topic?

[Sableye]

The EVOLUTION of the words has ended this thread "planet".

[Robert Monroe]

I mean really, what happened to this topic?

I don't even know.

STOP BITCHING ABOUT THEOLOGICAL PHILOSOPHY AND START BITCHING ABOUT ANTHROS WANTING TO BE HUMAN.

[Vy'drach]

The EVOLUTION of the words has ended this thread "planet".

Don't even know where to begin with deciphering that blather.

[Redeemer]

Jesus Christ this topic is intense.

Is this getting out of hand at all?

[Scott7]

I don't even know.

STOP BITCHING ABOUT THEOLOGICAL PHILOSOPHY AND START BITCHING ABOUT ANTHROS WANTING TO BE HUMAN.

Take it easy man, Lets just try and drop the Religious part of this conversation...

I'll start...

It's official, moan is a meme.

Sadly I don't think the meme would catch on very quickly. Well mostly because I can't really think of any uses for it....

[Vy'drach]

Sadly I don't think the meme would catch on very quickly. Well mostly because I can't really think of any uses for it....

Saying moan instead of porn?

[Robert Monroe]

Take it easy man, Lets just try and drop the Religious part of this conversation...

I'll start...

Sadly I don't think the meme would catch on very quickly. Well mostly because I can't really think of any uses for it....

I am taking it easy! I am taking it so moaning easy its moaning absurd!

[Vy'drach]

I am taking it easy! I am taking it so moaning easy its moaning absurd!

Trying too hard.

[Robert Monroe]

Trying too hard.

You killed it first!

[Scott7]

You killed it first!

I actually didn't get it until He pointed it out so, it didn't kill it on my end...

[Guest DRL]

Go and tead this on your Bible.

The bible is full of stuff that, when broken down,

IS FALSE FROM A LOGICAL POINT OF VIEW.

I am not going to pick down what

you said, out of respect for the

Catholics around.

BUT, I will tell you:

There are (at least) 3 errors in

what you said.

[Robert Monroe]

The bible is full of stuff that, when broken down,

IS FALSE FROM A LOGICAL POINT OF VIEW.

I am not going to pick down what

you said, out of respect for the

Catholics around.

BUT, I will tell you:

There are (at least) 3 errors in

what you said.

Well yeah, its a book that was put together in early middle ages, and isn't a textbook.

I will admit I am impressed that there was a notion of "space" back then though.