Religious Affiliation

[Kursed]

WelL I have to say my view of wicca is a pretty good one althoguh sadly mistaken  with witchcraft.

["User"]

WelL I have to say my view of wicca is a pretty good one althoguh sadly mistaken  with witchcraft.

Wicca is more of a modern day version of witchcraft.

[Fira-Astrali]

WelL I have to say my view of wicca is a pretty good one althoguh sadly mistaken  with witchcraft.

Wicca is WitchCraft, but it's not the sacrificing small animals, turning people into frogs that hollywood has made it out to be. its using the innate magick in the world to improve your life, as far as i understand it. hope thats not to preachy?

[Guest DRL]

I learned some about that Wicca.

According to a friend,  he could

access the 'spirit world' or like

that.

The trouble I allways had with

this stuff is the 'meditation' and

such mindless wastes of time.

I preffer to see the real world,

not the 'one in my mind' or like

that.

[Robert Monroe]

I learned some about that Wicca.

According to a friend,  he could

access the 'spirit world' or like

that.

The trouble I allways had with

this stuff is the 'meditation' and

such mindless wastes of time.

I preffer to see the real world,

not the 'one in my mind' or like

that.

Its not a mindless waste of time if you beleive n it :|

[Guest DRL]

Its not a mindless waste of time if you beleive n it

But it was supposed 'something'

will happen at some time.

Nothing happened.

[Robert Monroe]

But it was supposed 'something'

will happen at some time.

Nothing happened.

The something is based in faith and interpertation. Plenty of people claim to have experienced a "something" happening, and many have claimed to never feel that "something". So maybe to you it was a "mindless waste of time", but on the whole it isn't because there are those who are affected everyday. Its like saying something is worthless because you have no personal value in it, ignoring the value others place in things.

[Guest Julius Quasar]

Although I'm a Christian, I'm not a regular church goer.  To me, it's about staying in touch with GOD, not church.

I don't go to church, it goes with me.  I try to live my life the way God would want me to, without being a self-righteous, bible thumping, holy roller about it.  I tolerate most other beliefs, and I try not to waste me life, time, or anything else, and I thank God for what I got, and ask him for what I need, even if it's for someone else.  That's what the former reverend of my church taught me, and he's right.  Brilliant guy.

I had a bit of a falling out with my old church because after the reverend/pastor there retired, then he got replaced by a "Robot-Drone-O-Mat 5,000" reverend/pastor, who isn't very good.  Also, the trustees of the church got replaced by a bunch of snotty, asshole elitist bible thumping holy roller scum who treated the church like a country club.

[Sabre]

Although I'm a Christian, I'm not a regular church goer.  To me, it's about staying in touch with GOD, not church.

I don't go to church, it goes with me.  I try to live my life the way God would want me to, without being a self-righteous, bible thumping, holy roller about it.  I tolerate most other beliefs, and I try not to waste me life, time, or anything else, and I thank God for what I got, and ask him for what I need, even if it's for someone else.  That's what the former reverend of my church taught me, and he's right.  Brilliant guy.

I had a bit of a falling out with my old church because after the reverend/pastor there retired, then he got replaced by a "Robot-Drone-O-Mat 5,000" reverend/pastor, who isn't very good.  Also, the trustees of the church got replaced by a bunch of snotty, asshole elitist bible thumping holy roller scum who treated the church like a country club.

Am I the only one picturing a preist in a lowrider?

[Guest Julius Quasar]

Am I the only one picturing a preist in a lowrider?

Whaaaat?

[Sabre]

Holly roller.

[Guest Julius Quasar]

Holly roller.

Ah, I see...ha ha!

A "Holy Roller" is a religious person who is snotty, self righteous, and with a "holier than thou" attitude

[Robert Monroe]

Although I'm a Christian, I'm not a regular church goer.  To me, it's about staying in touch with GOD, not church.

I don't go to church, it goes with me.  I try to live my life the way God would want me to, without being a self-righteous, bible thumping, holy roller about it.  I tolerate most other beliefs, and I try not to waste me life, time, or anything else, and I thank God for what I got, and ask him for what I need, even if it's for someone else.  That's what the former reverend of my church taught me, and he's right.  Brilliant guy.

I had a bit of a falling out with my old church because after the reverend/pastor there retired, then he got replaced by a "Robot-Drone-O-Mat 5,000" reverend/pastor, who isn't very good.  Also, the trustees of the church got replaced by a bunch of snotty, asshole elitist bible thumping holy roller scum who treated the church like a country club.

Happened to a church I went too as a teenager, and I will never get over it. My first minister there was probably the best minister I ever had. He was just so full of LOVE, and probably the most earnest Christ follower I ever knew. He just made me want to damn hug EVERYONE.

And then one revival we had we got what seemed to be a good preacher. Too good, it seems, because my church officials asked David (the current minister) to step down and offer the position to the new guy, and said new guy only accepted the position if he was literally paid like 5000 dollars in advance or something. And he was.

Except he was a conman. He took the five grand and never came back, and I lost a good friend and a good preacher in the crossfire. Later on, the church fell apart, and I left it, and I don't even know whose running what now.

[Fira-Astrali]

I learned some about that Wicca.

According to a friend,  he could

access the 'spirit world' or like

that.

The trouble I allways had with

this stuff is the 'meditation' and

such mindless wastes of time.

I preffer to see the real world,

not the 'one in my mind' or like

that.

forgive me if this sounds too preachy

well, the thing about the 'real world' is that if you can meditate and become more in tune with the magick in the world, your real world becomes that much better. I used to mediate alot, and do yoga, and it helped alot, because it stabilized my mood and anxiety problems incredibly. Becoming in touch with spirit through these actions made my mind, and thus my real world, better. The world thats "in your mind" is incredibly important, because it effects the way you veiw and react to the "real world" immensely

However, i really think that things like meditation can only work if you are open to the results, and you believe that it may help you. some call this a placebo effect, and nothing can be said to dissuade them.

[Guest Julius Quasar]

Happened to a church I went too as a teenager, and I will never get over it. My first minister there was probably the best minister I ever had. He was just so full of LOVE, and probably the most earnest Christ follower I ever knew. He just made me want to damn hug EVERYONE.

And then one revival we had we got what seemed to be a good preacher. Too good, it seems, because my church officials asked David (the current minister) to step down and offer the position to the new guy, and said new guy only accepted the position if he was literally paid like 5000 dollars in advance or something. And he was.

Except he was a conman. He took the five grand and never came back, and I lost a good friend and a good preacher in the crossfire. Later on, the church fell apart, and I left it, and I don't even know whose running what now.

Sorry to hear that...

I wasn't really raised with any particular religion, but i've always been a spiritual person, and i couldn't embrace atheism because i dont believe that a world this intricate could be a cosmic co-incidence. I ended up with Wicca, because it was most in tune with my already established spiritual beliefs. parents weren't to happy, but it didnt make nearly as many waves as i thought, which was nice ^^;

It was funny, because it was actually BECAUSE of science that i ended up getting deeper into religion I was sitting in chemistry class, and my teacher introduced the Law of Conservation of Mass, which states "matter is never created or destroyed, it only changes form" and the idea of applying that to the spirit hit me like a tonne of bricks.

Wicca is awesome.  I got friends who are Wiccans.

I even got some friends who are Voo-Doo or Voo-Doo Catholic.

[Guest DRL]

forgive me if this sounds too preachy

well, the thing about the 'real world' is that if you can meditate and become more in tune with the magick in the world, your real world becomes that much better. I used to mediate alot, and do yoga, and it helped alot, because it stabilized my mood and anxiety problems incredibly. Becoming in touch with spirit through these actions made my mind, and thus my real world, better. The world thats "in your mind" is incredibly important, because it effects the way you veiw and react to the "real world" immensely

However, i really think that things like meditation can only work if you are open to the results, and you believe that it may help you. some call this a placebo effect, and nothing can be said to dissuade them.

But if you see the 'mind world',

could not the same thing be a

'created world' ?

(also: 'imagined/fantasized' world?)

To me it kind of looks like that.

From a logical view, altering your

idea of the world does not alter the

world itself, only your perspective.

[Guest Para Astaroth]

As much as I believe in whatever is there in the afterlife, I get REALLY tired of going to church EVERY Sunday.  We Lutherans go to church every Sunday and celebrate typical American traditions such as Thanksgiving, Easter (Which is Sunrise Service:  Getting up at around six or seven o'clock in the morning and finishing up around lunch time), Christmas, and I think that's about it.

[Sarita]

I wasn't really raised with any particular religion, but i've always been a spiritual person, and i couldn't embrace atheism because i dont believe that a world this intricate could be a cosmic co-incidence. I ended up with Wicca, because it was most in tune with my already established spiritual beliefs. parents weren't to happy, but it didnt make nearly as many waves as i thought, which was nice ^^;

It was funny, because it was actually BECAUSE of science that i ended up getting deeper into religion I was sitting in chemistry class, and my teacher introduced the Law of Conservation of Mass, which states "matter is never created or destroyed, it only changes form" and the idea of applying that to the spirit hit me like a tonne of bricks.

I feel teh same way about religion, and have seriously considered officially going with Wicca several times now. My family wouldn't be nearly as supportive as yours were, though. Maybe I'll finally "come out" to them after I go to college.

[Steve]

I feel teh same way about religion, and have seriously considered officially going with Wicca several times now. My family wouldn't be nearly as supportive as yours were, though. Maybe I'll finally "come out" to them after I go to college.

Yeeeah...however, you wouldn't be full Wicca, like you have told me, you would still be half Christian (whatever)/ half Wicca? I dunno.

[Zack]

"Zack says (2:18 AM):

*Oh god

Zack says (2:18 AM):

*religon thread

Zack says (2:19 AM):

*what would I be considered...?

Steve says (2:19 AM):

*atheist

Zack says (2:19 AM):

*But... I believe Gurren Lagann made the world =("

This literally sums up my outlook on religion. I guess it would be agnostic?

I could debate about religion all day. To be honest while I personally don't believe in any religion or really care about them, I do like to believe that they are all the same. While the names of the gods may change they are all looked at the same way and all mostly serve the same purpose: something to give thanks to when life goes well, and something to condemn when life goes astray, and something to pray to when you seek guidance/assistance. Of course my research of religion is pretty shallow so I'm probably wrong here, more or less just the opinion of someone who is looking from the outside.

The one thing I have however studied quite throughly is Norse mythology. As I like to see myself as a warrior its quite appealing to me to worship gods who are all warriors. Of course I never really went too far with that, so I can't really consider it as my religion in any way. As shown above, when confronted with religion I usually make some kind of joke or ignore it. This is probably the most I've ever talked about it before.

[Guest DRL]

Another issue is that self-taught

religion does not work for me.

I mean, I like to read, but I

do not learn things that way.

Mainly because I do not know

if I am doing things 'right'.

'De facto' atheism?

[Fira-Astrali]

Wicca is awesome.  I got friends who are Wiccans.

I even got some friends who are Voo-Doo or Voo-Doo Catholic.

Haha, thanks. I live in the boon-docks a bit, so i'm the only one in my school who practices it. There is another girl that says she's Wiccan, but she only uses the name and her 'magick' to scare the crap out of people and make them afraid of her, which is pretty much exactly against the Goals of the Witch.

I've never looked into Voo-doo, but the idea is interesting.

But if you see the 'mind world',

could not the same thing be a

'created world' ?

(also: 'imagined/fantasized' world?)

To me it kind of looks like that.

From a logical view, altering your

idea of the world does not alter the

world itself, only your perspective.

Well, about the mind world maybe being a fantasy world, i guess that's where you have to take a leap of faith.

But perspective is extremely important! Perspective is the filter through which you see the world! If you can effect your perspective and make it more positive, than your world is more positive.

The only example i have of this is that last year, i was diagnosed with low-grade depression. That affected my perspective and made everything in my world look pointless and bleak. Now I have defeated it, and my perspective has become more positive, and hence, so has my world and my life.

Yeeeah...however, you wouldn't be full Wicca, like you have told me, you would still be half Christian (whatever)/ half Wicca? I dunno.

Urm, i thought when you converted, you converted, and that's what you are. I don't think most religions are passed down and held. I mean, i know Judaism is passed down, but i dont think its the same for all?

I do like to believe that they are all the same. While the names of the gods may change they are all looked at the same way and all mostly serve the same purpose: something to give thanks to when life goes well, and something to condemn when life goes astray, and something to pray to when you seek guidance/assistance.

I'd like to agree with you. I think that all these gods with different names from different places, are all manifestations from one source.

Another issue is that self-taught

religion does not work for me.

I mean, I like to read, but I

do not learn things that way.

Mainly because I do not know

if I am doing things 'right'.

'De facto' atheism?

Yeah, i find that hard sometimes. Not all Wiccans are self-taught, there are multiple covens where one can go, but that doesnt really resonate with me, so i elected to be a solitaire. Which means to a fairly decent part of the Wiccan community, im not "really Wiccan" because i had to initiate myself.

The worry your not doing things right is a real bother too, but i just figured that if it felt right, I must be on the right track. I seriously doubt if your praying or meditating, or doing a spell, if you do some little thing wrong, its not going to work just because of that slip-up. Your taught that intent is always the most important thing, so if your intent is pure, you have a good chance even if your 'technique' blows

[Vy'drach]

Something a bit more about my religion, I worship a dragon known as Rremly. I treat him as the same god as most others follow, after all, if a being were capable of creating all existence, I doubt that it'd be constrained by one form.

[Asper Sarnoff]

The one thing I have however studied quite throughly is Norse mythology. As I like to see myself as a warrior its quite appealing to me to worship gods who are all warriors.

Nice to know there excists people outside Scandinavia who have an interest in it.:yes:

[Guest Julius Quasar]

Nice to know there excists people outside Scandinavia who have an interest in it.

Oh yeah.  I like Loki especially.