Religious Affiliation

[Fira-Astrali]

That is what I wanted all of the

time with a 'religion' - simple quiet

of mind.

Do you expect that you can sit down in a dark room and enter a completely zen state on the first try? Of course not. You are not going to get profound effects right outta the box. Meditiation is not a simple thing. You've got to practice before you can feel the effects. Everything i have read about medititation is that it takes several months of continuous practice before you can even go more than a few minutes, and to have the mental control to hold only one thought in your head for a long period of time. I have had profound effects, but they were always with the help of some kind of teacher. The stuff i do on my own, while helpful, is no where near as strong, but of course i am working on it every night, and as such i will become better. A quiet mind is an extremely difficult thing to achive. If you want a quiet mind, it takes alot of work, but its worth it.

While your point is valid, mine is,

that if you end up building something

else, there are chances that it ends

doing up something else, too.

I realize this. But the problem is you seem to be trying to tell me that if it does something else besides its exact intended purpose, established by the first time you saw it, than it must be bad. If you have the same framework as everybody else (all wiccans have the same ground rules, for example) and then start building, yes, its going to look different than the other guy beside you, but thats okay, because the important thing is that, while the fundamentals are the same, it is different because it is tailored to suit you, and thats the point.

My thing with a religion was allways

the same, as I stated before, to finally

feel a peace of mind. I consider that,

personally, to be of a 'neutral' 'alignment' -

if we can call it that - because I never intented

to use a religion or belief to harm others, just

to help myself.

This comment has confused me. That's what im talking about in the comment that you quoted. Reword?

[Guest DRL]

This comment has confused me. That's what im talking about in the comment that you quoted. Reword?

What I was trying to say was simply that:

What I expected from any religion (even the

one I was taugh to believe in) was just giving

some peace of mind in a world were there are

only loud and annoying sounds every day.

To date, all of them have failed.

[Star Fox Runner]

Here is my opinion on this, and this is not any kind of attempt to trump anyone's belief, nor is it an "I'm right you're wrong hahaha" rant. It's just my opinion of religion as a Catholic.

Most people don't want to believe in religion or spiritual things because they cannot find any concrete evidence to back it up. But the thing is that when it comes to anything spiritual, whether it be Christianity, Buddhism, Taoism, Hinduism, etc. you gotta have a mentality that sometimes there are things in this world that cannot be explained or proven logically, because there are some things that transcend human comprehension.

In order for someone to be spiritual or religious, one must be open to that kind of idea. It all boils down to the individual and the choice to take a path like that is ultimately theirs, no one can make the decision for them, or force them into it. This is the beauty of free will.

For the ones who are open to the concept, the reason why they take a spiritual path is the hope that even though the world is cruel place, when everything is said and done we will be lead to a better existence. The problem is that some people think that God will do everything for them and they simply sit on their asses and do nothing. That is wrong, one still must work and solve their own problems and shoulder responsibilities themselves, no mysterious force will do it for them.

One of my reasons for believing in God is that I refuse to believe that death is the end of all things, I don't understand how one can go through life and think that nothing but a dark abyss awaits them after death.

["User"]

I agree with Star Fox Runner.  You can't logically/scientifically prove or disprove the existence of God as a result.

[Guest Julius Quasar]

I agree with Star Fox Runner.  You can't logically/scientifically prove or disprove the existence of God as a result.

Second this.