Opinion on Barack Obama (USA Pres.)

[Sapphire]

What's your guys opinion on him? The 1st African American dude to become the USA pres.

I hate him.

:no:

[Guest DRL]

As I am not an USA citizen, I can only judge

his international behavior towards the rest

of the world.

According to international sources, he has:

° Cut off funds for the war in Iraq. (Good + )

° Proped-up the goverment in Afghanistan (Useless - )

° Lifted the embargo on Cuba ( C00L! +)

° Sent additional forces to Afghanistan (BAD! --)

As I see it, he has not done much in favor

of the world. Sure, the lifting on the Cuban embargo

is a good thing for both countries, but on the long run,

it offers little economically. Additionally, Afghanistan

continues to drain funds for his nation.

As a fun fact, I saw last weeked a news report when

he went to a coutry and he was all like 'D*mn flies!!"

[Sapphire]

As I am not an USA citizen, I can only judge

his international behavior towards the rest

of the world.

According to international sources, he has:

° Cut off funds for the war in Iraq. (Good + )

° Proped-up the goverment in Afghanistan (Useless - )

° Lifted the embargo on Cuba ( C00L! +)

° Sent additional forces to Afghanistan (BAD! --)

As I see it, he has not done much in favor

of the world. Sure, the lifting on the Cuban embargo

is a good thing for both countries, but on the long run,

it offers little economically. Additionally, Afghanistan

continues to drain funds for his nation.

As a fun fact, I saw last weeked a news report when

he went to a coutry and he was all like 'D*mn flies!!"

I know you're athiest, but people in my country think he's the Anti christ. Or at least the door to the antichrist  :oops:

[Guest DRL]

I know you're athiest, but people in my country think he's the Anti christ. Or at least the door to the antichrist 

LOL. Why is that?

[Guest Para Astaroth]

What's your guys opinion on him? The 1st African American dude to become the USA pres.

I hate him.

I know you're athiest, but people in my country think he's the Anti christ. Or at least the door to the antichrist 

Is it because he's a black guy being our president?

[Sapphire]

LOL. Why is that?

This isn't the place for the reason.

Is it because he's a black guy being our president?

No, it's because he tried to bring the world under a single government, ya know, the entire world under one government. That, to me, is a BIG nono.

[Guest Para Astaroth]

No, it's because he tried to bring the world under a single government, ya know, the entire world under one government. That, to me, is a BIG nono.

I see your point.

In my opinion, I really could care less about his job as our president since he's a guy to be respected, and how he's dealing with the war in Iraq -- That's about my reason about the guy.  If he would have lost, then we would have a dumb woman of a president that's husband was president a couple years back. 

Anyways, Obama isn't that bad of a guy if people would just let him do his job and not procrastinate about him being black and, by what I've heard by some, trying to make the US a communist government (<-----  I personally don't believe this pish-posh about US becoming communist -- it's unidealistic).  But, I have faith that he will pull through as a successful president.

[Guest DRL]

In my country, the fact that he is black

is seen as little more than a sing of 'racial progress'.

Regardless if that is true or not, I hope he finally

decides to call home all of his troops and improve

his economy.

[Sapphire]

I see your point.

In my opinion, I really could care less about his job as our president since he's a guy to be respected, and how he's dealing with the war in Iraq -- That's about my reason about the guy.  If he would have lost, then we would have a dumb woman of a president that's husband was president a couple years back. 

Anyways, Obama isn't that bad of a guy if people would just let him do his job and not procrastinate about him being black and, by what I've heard by some, trying to make the US a communist government (<-----  I personally don't believe this pish-posh about US becoming communist -- it's unidealistic).  But, I have faith that he will pull through as a successful president.

And something else is his middle name is Osama, just like the 9/11 dude.  O_o

[Guest Para Astaroth]

What?  Is this true?

[Sapphire]

What?  Is this true?

Yeah, as bad as it can be....:(

[Guest Para Astaroth]

Prove it. :|

[Sapphire]

Prove it.

Okay.

..............

Okay, I can't, but I've heard it...... :?

[Guest Para Astaroth]

Then those people are just trying to fill you with misinformation into hating him like they did to Bush near the end of his Presidency.

[Sapphire]

Then those people are just trying to fill you with misinformation into hating him like they did to Bush near the end of his Presidency.

Bush was good :)

[Sarita]

I know you're athiest, but people in my country think he's the Anti christ. Or at least the door to the antichrist 

I don't think that.

I kinda like Obama, actually. He's a pretty okay guy.

[Guest DRL]

Bush was good

To be honest, by my standards he

was not any good. (Take into account

that I am reffering to his international

actions.)

But he was not as bad as the press

potrayed him.

From my point of view, yes, he has done

a deal of things wrong, but international

press also exagerated some stuff as well.

[Guest Julius Quasar]

He sucks, just like Bush, and Clinton...but Obama and those 2 dummies will NEVER be as bad as that stupid, big toothed, hillbilly cretin Jimmy Carter...worst president ever!

[Asper Sarnoff]

My overall opinion on Obama is slightly negative. Not by much, just shy of satisfactory.

Then those people are just trying to fill you with misinformation into hating him like they did to Bush near the end of his Presidency.

It's not Osama. But his full name is Obama Hussein Barrack Jr. Which I believe you will get confirmed as soon as you take a look on Wikipedia.

[Konchaski]

My problem with Obama is the fact he tries to please everyone. You can't in this position. Neither are going to be happy. Still, I can't completely blame Obama for the budget deficit - yes he is partially responsible for it but he also had this piled up from the Carter, the Reagan, the Bush Family, and the Clinton administration. But good lord, old W. did it worse by putting us into two wars which made the deficit grow even more. He's basically digging out of the hole that George W. Bush put us in.  The problem is we simply can't just pull out there like that because we feel a need to clean up the mess we made in those countries by stabilizing them and the longer we are there, the more they're not going to like us.

Either way I honestly didn't expect a savior like many other people when I voted for him, because his Healthcare plan sucked and he had a terrible history with environmental issues. But I also knew when McCain picked Palin, I realized that John McCain would not change the Republican Party but instead he changed for the Republican Party instead. Obama was simply the lesser of two evils and I'd prefer a person who sticks to their ideals more than bending their back to get the majority vote.

Furthermore on the name 'Hussein', it is pretty much as common as 'John'. They're grasping at straws, it's like saying everyone who is named 'John', 'David', 'Christopher' or 'Thomas' is part of a Christian Militia group or the KuKluxKlan who wants to force everyone to become their religion and kill anyone who doesn't fit their ideal. It's ridiculous everytime I hear that argument.

["User"]

Oh boy, lots of political talk in this topic.  Time to dig in!

What's your guys opinion on him? The 1st African American dude to become the USA pres.

I hate him.

I assumed that because you're from Tennessee

As I am not an USA citizen, I can only judge

his international behavior towards the rest

of the world.

True, seeing as you can't judge other things about him - like his domestic policy for example.

According to international sources, he has:

° Cut off funds for the war in Iraq. (Good + )

The "War" in Iraq was more or less over BEFORE Obama got into power. It's more to do with withdrawing of troops and spending less resources in Iraq in general and that process has already been happening for more then a couple of years now.

° Proped-up the goverment in Afghanistan (Useless - )

He really didn't have much of a choice to be honest.  You're fighting a war in someone else's country....of COURSE you have to get that government on your good side. It's common sense. 

° Lifted the embargo on Cuba ( C00L! +)

Long overdue IMO.

° Sent additional forces to Afghanistan (BAD! --)

I'm going to agree with you on this one, he says he needs a lot more troops over there but when you're fighting an insurgency of this nature more does not necessarily mean better.

As I see it, he has not done much in favor

of the world.

But he WON THE NOBEL PEACE PRIZE....! FOR DOING ABSOLUTELY NOTHING! 

Sure, the lifting on the Cuban embargo

is a good thing for both countries, but on the long run,

it offers little economically.

True.

Additionally, Afghanistan

continues to drain funds for his nation.

Not just that, but the bloated military budget in general.

As a fun fact, I saw last weeked a news report when

he went to a coutry and he was all like 'D*mn flies!!"

Link? I wouldn't mind seeing that.

I know you're athiest, but people in my country think he's the Anti christ. Or at least the door to the antichrist 

That's more of a political gesture if anything and plus, you live in a conservative area of the states so you're going to hear more of that kind of talk as opposed to...lets just say...New York for example.  People said the same thing about Bush, who has policies on the opposite end of the political spectrum from Obama.

This isn't the place for the reason.No, it's because he tried to bring the world under a single government, ya know, the entire world under one government. That, to me, is a BIG nono.

He never proposed such a thing.  The closest I can remember him referring to anything of that nature is that he's made statements about peace throughout the world but no where has he advocated a one world government.  However, if you can prove me wrong then do so.

If he would have lost, then we would have a dumb woman of a president that's husband was president a couple years back. 

Oh we know if Obama didn't get the Democrat nomination then McCain would have become president. 

Anyways, Obama isn't that bad of a guy if people would just let him do his job and not procrastinate about him being black and, by what I've heard by some, trying to make the US a communist government (<-----  I personally don't believe this pish-posh about US becoming communist -- it's unidealistic).  But, I have faith that he will pull through as a successful president.

The problem with Obama is that throughout his tenure as president he's made far too many concessions to appease Republicans and, at the same time, upset moderate Democrats in his own party - making it more difficult for him to pass legislation through Congress and the Senate.  He's also out of touch with what ordinary Americans want most right now, which is the recovery of the economy.  Sure things like universal health care are amazing, however it doesn't relieve Americans fear of losing their job, or not being able to pay their bills.   Obama would have done better as soon as he started his job at focusing EVERYTHING on fixing the economy and not making so many concessions that have, in the end, made little difference.

Regardless if that is true or not, I hope he finally

decides to call home all of his troops and improve

his economy.

He's been trying to "spend his way" out of the recession. 

My problem with Obama is the fact he tries to please everyone. You can't in this position. Neither are going to be happy.

He's in a tight situation that's for sure.

Still, I can't completely blame Obama for the budget deficit - yes he is partially responsible for it but he also had this piled up from the Regan, the Bush Family, and the Clinton administration.

That's true, but take at look at what the deficit was just before Obama took office in 2008 and take a look at it now.  It's EXPLODED, and it hasn't even been a full two years since he's been in office.  Not even Bush racked it up that quickly.  Yes we have a recession, but people still think Obama has spent far too much given that almost every other developed nation on Earth has already AT LEAST started to cut back on their own stimulus spending.

He's basically digging out of the hole that George W. Bush put us in.

In what capacity?

I honestly didn't expect a savior like many other people when I voted for him, because his Healthcare plan sucked and he had a terrible history with environmental issues.

It sucked but at least it's better then nothing.  Most every other developed nation on Earth has a far better (and in most cases, universal) health care plan.  I still have yet to hear one GOOD reason why someone would oppose universal health care (a RIGHT imo) for those who can't afford it.  This is America after all...the most powerful nation on Earth...come ON!

But I also knew when McCain picked Palin, I realized that John McCain would not change the Republican Party but instead he changed for the Republican Party instead. Obama was simply the lesser of two evils and I'd prefer a person who sticks to their ideals more than bending their back to get the majority vote.

That's how a lot of nominees are for the GOP and Democrats...people vote for the lesser of two evils. 

Furthermore on the name 'Hussein', it is pretty much as common as 'John'. They're grasping at straws, it's like saying everyone who is named 'John', 'David', 'Christopher' or 'Thomas' is part of a Christian Militia group or the KuKluxKlan who wants to force everyone to become their religion and kill anyone who doesn't fit their ideal. It's ridiculous everytime I hear that argument.

People who think his middle name makes ANY difference are on crack....it's a NAME, nothing more.

[Sapphire]

My overall opinion on Obama is slightly negative. Not by much, just shy of satisfactory.

It's not Osama. But his full name is Obama Hussein Barrack Jr. Which I believe you will get confirmed as soon as you take a look on Wikipedia.

That's what I was thinking of! Yeah but that's the 9/11 dude, Obama's Middle name, so I've heard.

Oh boy, lots of political talk in this topic.  Time to dig in!

I assumed that because you're from Tennessee

Yep, I'm from TN.

He sucks, just like Bush, and Clinton...but Obama and those 2 dummies will NEVER be as bad as that stupid, big toothed, hillbilly cretin Jimmy Carter...worst president ever!

And thanks for correcting me User, I did forget that he hasn't tried to put us all under a one government rule. YET.

Once he does, it's all downhill from there...

And if he even DARES to try to attack Jerusalem, I'm openin a can of whoop-ass on that S.O.B.

[Konchaski]

The problem with Obama is that throughout his tenure as president he's made far too many concessions to appease Republicans and, at the same time, upset moderate Democrats in his own party - making it more difficult for him to pass legislation through Congress and the Senate.  He's also out of touch with what ordinary Americans want most right now, which is the recovery of the economy.  Sure things like universal health care are amazing, however it doesn't relieve Americans fear of losing their job, or not being able to pay their bills.   Obama would have done better as soon as he started his job at focusing EVERYTHING on fixing the economy and not making so many concessions that have, in the end, made little difference.

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That's true, but take at look at what the deficit was just before Obama took office in 2008 and take a look at it now.  It's EXPLODED, and it hasn't even been a full two years since he's been in office.  Not even Bush racked it up that quickly.  Yes we have a recession, but people still think Obama has spent far too much given that almost every other developed nation on Earth has already AT LEAST started to cut back on their own stimulus spending.

This is very true honestly, the problem is the recession has been in the making for ages and only began with Bush's last year. I'm not excusing Obama thinking his stimulus package would work, because really? It hasn't. There are too many states that didn't spend it in the right way, (I was reading Wisconsin was one of the few states that did as it was told.)  and massive the bail out of the automotive industry was frankly daft. You can't spend in order to get out of a recession, it's an absolutely ludicrous idea. Both of my senators who are democrat did not approve of this. Specifically, Russ Feingold who has been especially tough on massive spending.

( He's a pretty interesting guy, fiscally conservative but socially liberal. He's also one of the few senators who reads what he signs before it goes into motion.  Even if you don't agree with him, you got to admit he's a type of person who isn't afraid to go bipartisan - we need more people like him instead of democrats and republicans on both sides who don't want to negotiate. He's also against Wall Street having such a large say in what goes on in politics and the U.S. as well. Pretty cool dude.  )

The Public Health option is something I do think America needs, but not anything like Obama's monstrosity he planned or the deformed idiocy that went through.  ( To be fair,  nobody else's plans were all that good either. ) It's going to have be something new that nobody has ever tried before, because the United States is so ridiculously massive in population. The closest way I can see it done is by it being regulated by the states and it being split into the districts of said states. However, this would be a high demand for fiscal responsibility - which a lot of the people in the United States lack. They want things immediately and now so they spend money they don't have. This is the issue we must overcome.

[Kursed]

African american:okay  Obama: Let's just put it this way NO BOMA!

[Sapphire]

NO BOMA!

Ha, I saw that on a bumbersticker :lol: