Robert Monroe Posted August 16, 2010 Share Posted August 16, 2010 Sounds like someone's been listening to too much Limbaugh...You can not deny though that sad as it may be, race played a big role in Obama's election. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kursed Posted August 16, 2010 Share Posted August 16, 2010 Given where you're from I can understand if there's some slight bias there. THat's what my dad said too and seeing how inexperianced obama is I kinda believe him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
"User" Posted August 16, 2010 Share Posted August 16, 2010 You can not deny though that sad as it may be, race played a big role in Obama's election.As well as very lopsided campaign donations in favor of Obama. Not to mention the whole Obama bandwagon jumping by almost every individual under 25 or so. (Same age group disapproves of Obama now) Wasn't the voter turnout rate a lot higher then it was in past elections?Furthermore, add in virtually every online news site (which are 95% liberal anyways), and every major "traditional" news station (which are liberal as well outside of Fox News).Finally, add a 200 pound ball and chain that is George W Bush to Mccain's ankle. :trollface: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Julius Quasar Posted August 17, 2010 Share Posted August 17, 2010 You can not deny though that sad as it may be, race played a big role in Obama's election.Agreed!As well as very lopsided campaign donations in favor of Obama. Not to mention the whole Obama bandwagon jumping by almost every individual under 25 or so. (Same age group disapproves of Obama now) Wasn't the voter turnout rate a lot higher then it was in past elections?Furthermore, add in virtually every online news site (which are 95% liberal anyways), and every major "traditional" news station (which are liberal as well outside of Fox News).Finally, add a 200 pound ball and chain that is George W Bush to Mccain's ankle. Yep! Also, the Republican Party is terribly divided...I think Obama just simply acts and speaks before thinking, he definitely speaks before thinking, given the backpedaling he's been doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DZComposer Posted August 17, 2010 Share Posted August 17, 2010 You think the media is Liberal? Are you serious? If the media were Liberal, this Mosque controversy wouldn't exist. The "Death Panels" argument about Healthcare would never have taken off. The Tea Party wouldn't get so much coverage. Tea Party sends 2000 people to DC, the media covers it. Gay rights rally in DC that draws 50000, and nothing outside of MSNBC, which leans left, but is far from being truly liberal. And that's just to name a few.Just because the media isn't calling Obama a socialist every day does not make them liberal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
"User" Posted August 17, 2010 Share Posted August 17, 2010 You think the media is Liberal? Are you serious? If the media were Liberal, this Mosque controversy wouldn't exist. The "Death Panels" argument about Healthcare would never have taken off. The Tea Party wouldn't get so much coverage. Tea Party sends 2000 people to DC, the media covers it. Gay rights rally in DC that draws 50000, and nothing outside of MSNBC, which leans left, but is far from being truly liberal. And that's just to name a few.Just because the media isn't calling Obama a socialist every day does not make them liberal.So wait...you're seriously telling me that something like CNN isn't liberal slanted in a majority of it's news? Polls disagree with you there. And MSNBC is pretty much the anti-thesis to Fox News lol.I follow the news on a daily basis, from multiple sources, for the past several years. Most bloggers online are left winged, mainly because the individuals as a whole are younger and more critical of "traditional" beliefs. It's been that way for the last century or two - the young are more liberal while the older are more conservative. When the Internet is primarily composed of younger people you get that obvious slant. And as a result I seriously see more flak and criticism towards right winged people. It happens all the time and for anyone to say it doesn't is ignorant of the online political world around them.The mosque issue has less to do with bi-partisanship then you think. We all agree that they have the right to build a mosque, it's just that the location of where it's being built is a huge slap in the fact to those who died in 9/11. Obama's first comments (SEEMINGLY supportive) and his second set of comments (somewhat controversial compared to his first set) really didn't help clarify his personal take on it. I've seen CNN and MSNBC cover the tea parties quite frequently as well - although mainly cast in a negative light the majority of the time - unlike something like Fox News (which seems to love them). Regardless of the bias of the media protests about major things (which tea parties seem to be famous for) will get attention - whether it's portrayed positively or negatively depends on the source.I've seen countless articles blowing up pro-democrat issues with no attention being paid to right wing causes. And despite my right leaning tendencies (I would by no means be a true Republican in your country) I try to get an overall look at media stories from all political stripes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Monroe Posted August 17, 2010 Share Posted August 17, 2010 I get my news from the Daily Show with John Stewart and The Colbert Report.What does this say about me? :trollface: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
"User" Posted August 17, 2010 Share Posted August 17, 2010 I get my news from the Daily Show with John Stewart and The Colbert Report.What does this say about me? It means you, as a neoconservative, need to go back and worship your graven image of George W. Bush! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DZComposer Posted August 18, 2010 Share Posted August 18, 2010 So wait...you're seriously telling me that something like CNN isn't liberal slanted in a majority of it's news? Polls disagree with you there. And MSNBC is pretty much the anti-thesis to Fox News lol.I follow the news on a daily basis, from multiple sources, for the past several years. Most bloggers online are left winged, mainly because the individuals as a whole are younger and more critical of "traditional" beliefs. It's been that way for the last century or two - the young are more liberal while the older are more conservative. When the Internet is primarily composed of younger people you get that obvious slant. And as a result I seriously see more flak and criticism towards right winged people. It happens all the time and for anyone to say it doesn't is ignorant of the online political world around them.The mosque issue has less to do with bi-partisanship then you think. We all agree that they have the right to build a mosque, it's just that the location of where it's being built is a huge slap in the fact to those who died in 9/11. Obama's first comments (SEEMINGLY supportive) and his second set of comments (somewhat controversial compared to his first set) really didn't help clarify his personal take on it. I've seen CNN and MSNBC cover the tea parties quite frequently as well - although mainly cast in a negative light the majority of the time - unlike something like Fox News (which seems to love them). Regardless of the bias of the media protests about major things (which tea parties seem to be famous for) will get attention - whether it's portrayed positively or negatively depends on the source.I've seen countless articles blowing up pro-democrat issues with no attention being paid to right wing causes. And despite my right leaning tendencies (I would by no means be a true Republican in your country) I try to get an overall look at media stories from all political stripes. I'll grant you that the media isn't all Fox News conservative, but they are corporatist. Corporatist is not liberal. The Citizens United court case, for instance, was talked about for maybe a day on the mainstream media. The true liberal outlets are still talking about it.Also, polls don't mean shit. What people think about media bias is not necessarily the way it is. Conservative are always calling the media Liberal, and Liberals don't call out the media for being the corporatist swine that they are enough for that to enter the minds of people. It's all messaging, and sadly the conservatives are better at it than the liberals at this point. All a poll tells you is whose messaging is believed more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
"User" Posted August 20, 2010 Share Posted August 20, 2010 You make valid points and I realize that maybe American politics is more bi-partition in the media then I originally thought. In Canada (land of the socialists) our media would be considered extremely liberal to you guys and since Canada is a far more left winged nation then the States is then I'll guess my viewpoint on your political media was a little bias.As far as the Citizens United v. FEC decision goes I'm going to support it simply because it upholds what the First Amendment is for. It's very difficult to differentiate media (like a movie) from corporatism at times and if it was the other way it would set a dangerous precedent by possibility allowing Congress to censor true media (like newspapers) or other forms of communication that aren't backed by massive corporations. On the other hand, it might influence future election processes to serve the need of the "corporatist pigs" but that's another topic for another day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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