Historical inaccuracies?

[ARWINGCOMMANDER 3987]

I've been looking at pictorial representations from ancient times of how most people in those times actually dressed. Did women in Mayan, Aztec or Incan society really dress like this or was it just for sex appeal to sell modern media? Then there's this for modern media representations of Germanic or Celtic women. Historically accurate? Yes? No? Maybe? Can any of you answer my question? I don't know if any women in those ancient cultures dressed that provocatively, or if it was just to mass market Conan the Barbarian.

[Sabre]

Chances are a little of columb a and a little of b. Some inaccuracies are just dumb, like when films set in acient rome have everybody living in ruins despite the buildings being new at the time. Often things are deliberatly left a certain way for dramatic reasons.

However, things like the toga(?) did exsist, but were hated for being needlessly traditional. It's like saying kimono is typical japanese dress or that British soldiers all dress like the coldstream guards.

So, while I can't answer these questions specifically, it depends why you want to know. If you are doing fiction it might be better to play down to steriotypes as when things are well researched some people will claim they are unrealistic. See the toga example above, or pretty much any film that treats Gladiators as a refined  sport rather then a brutal killing spree.

[ARWINGCOMMANDER 3987]

However, things like the toga(?) did exsist, but were hated for being needlessly traditional.

Wait, a movie set in historical Greece or Rome, but people complain that toga are needlessly traditional?

[Sabre]

No, at the time the only people who wore togas were polititians and other officials. However, they were seen as a pain in the arse. Almost any greece/roman film has everybody except for maybe soldiers dressed in togas.

[The Shaper]

The first one may have been a little more accurate but not true. The Aztecs and Mayans lived in jungles and rain forests and it's no secret those places are exceptionally hot so it would have made sense  for them to wear something like that. The second one, probably only in legends and myths.

[Robert Monroe]

That Aztec/Mayan/whatever thing is ok, but that "Celt" is herping my derp.

Inaccuracies bug the shit out of me as a whole, but it really depends how much its needed for the setting to work. I am ok with Castlevania dicking around with it because CV is so damn fantasy esque it might as well not even be "historical", for example.

[ARWINGCOMMANDER 3987]

The first one may have been a little more accurate but not true. The Aztecs and Mayans lived in jungles and rain forests and it's no secret those places are exceptionally hot so it would have made sense  for them to wear something like that. The second one, probably only in legends and myths.

What about for Celts during the summer time?

By the way I still haven't been able to find ACTUAL examples of the first one accounting to real history.

[fox1235]

Here's something to remeber, only the victorius write history.

[Vulvokunvrii]

The world probably won't end in 2012, probaly not for a long while, hopefully we get our act together and lessen the destruction of the world.; the people that even said that will end on that year are DEAD! i find that funny for some reason.

[Robert Monroe]

What about for Celts during the summer time?

By the way I still haven't been able to find ACTUAL examples of the first one accounting to real history.

Celts lived on the British isles, which are reknown for being cold and wet all the damn time.

Even if they weren't the notion of "chainmail bikinis" is not only absurd, its not real. Thats strictly Conan territory.

[Thu'um]

Here's something to remeber, only the victorius write history.

Write because the jews were conquered a bunch of times and there history is quite clear...

[The Shaper]

The world probably won't end in 2012, probaly not for a long while, hopefully we get our act together and lessen the destruction of the world.; the people that even said that will end on that year are DEAD! i find that funny for some reason.

The changed 2012 to 2060. I'm not kidding about that either.

[Milkyway64]

More specifically, "it could be off by as much as fifty years in either direction." Meaning the appocalypse date either already passed or at latest it'll be at 2060, with anytime between then and now being possible dates.

[Robert Monroe]

Here's something that will really blow your mind:

THE MAYAN CALENDER IS NOT THE GREGORIAN (western) CALENDER.

And even more amazing? Large parts of the world -don't use the Gregorian calender- for that matter. Time is relative, a construct of men.

[Sabre]

That Aztec/Mayan/whatever thing is ok, but that "Celt" is herping my derp.

That makes no sense.

[ARWINGCOMMANDER 3987]

Here's something that will really blow your mind:

THE MAYAN CALENDER IS NOT THE GREGORIAN (western) CALENDER.

And even more amazing? Large parts of the world -don't use the Gregorian calender- for that matter. Time is relative, a construct of men.

Can we get back on topic please? I was talking about what "clothes" the Euro-Pagans and Mesoamericans actually wore, not their paranoia about Independence Day or Titan A.E.

[Robert Monroe]

That makes no sense.

Its a figure of speech, with roots in the "herpderp" catchphrase, which means "really fvcking stupid".

Ergo, that "celt" is about as historically accurate as a Mel Gibson film, and henceforth as far as historical design goes "really fvcking stupid".

[Sabre]

Its a figure of speech, with roots in the "herpderp" catchphrase, which means "really fvcking stupid".

Ergo, that "celt" is about as historically accurate as a Mel Gibson film, and henceforth as far as historical design goes "really fvcking stupid".

Erm, no. It's a refference to BaseKetball and Southpark. It's sopposed to be an impression of someone trying to be funny and just looking dumb. I did a blog post about it recently.

[Robert Monroe]

Erm, no. It's a refference to BaseKetball and Southpark. It's sopposed to be an impression of someone trying to be funny and just looking dumb. I did a blog post about it recently.

I never said I was trying to be funny.

So yeah.

[Vy'drach]

Can't speak for the Celts, but as far as Egyptians, can take a look at their art, as I doubt they're depicting anything less than standard dress, maybe formal, but if they're showing workers, then I doubt they have formal attire.

I imagine Celtic women were more like this, however.

[Sabre]

I never said I was trying to be funny.

So yeah.

Still makes no sence. "So yeah"

[Robert Monroe]

Still makes no sence. "So yeah"

Your ignorance on my figure of speech is your problem, not mine.

As for the Celts, another thing to consider is -period-. By celts do you mean like the Picts of the late Roman British Isles, or do you mean more like Medieval Scotland?

[ARWINGCOMMANDER 3987]

Your ignorance on my figure of speech is your problem, not mine.

As for the Celts, another thing to consider is -period-. By celts do you mean like the Picts of the late Roman British Isles, or do you mean more like Medieval Scotland?

I was thinking more of the pre-Christian era Celts.

[Robert Monroe]

I was thinking more of the pre-Christian era Celts.

That'd likely be Picts then, who were a confederation of various smalltime pre-Roman Celtic tribes. Happy researching!

[ARWINGCOMMANDER 3987]

That'd likely be Picts then, who were a confederation of various smalltime pre-Roman Celtic tribes. Happy researching!

*after looking up authentic pictorial representations of the Pictish tribes*