Why I've been gone

[Guest Mr. Mario]

My time here was "calm"?  I was under an unbelievable amount of stress!  It can actually get worse than that?  And what changed?  What happened to the Luigi motifs and the AWEC00L?

A lot and lot of things have changed here but I'm not going to say it, for I would get my warning level back.

[Dermot]

I guess a more meaningful question is, how can I be the kind of fan I am and actually contribute something worthwhile to the place and have a worthwhile time?  And yes, that includes with the kinds of things I like and with the kind of signature I like to have, and little or none of the flak I used to get.

[Guest DRL]

My time here was "calm"?  I was under an unbelievable amount of stress!  It can actually get worse than that?  And what changed?  What happened to the Luigi motifs and the AWEC00L?

No, I meant for the site. It was before everything started to collapse

under a mass of...deceit (?).

As for the second, well, I left too. I am back - specially for this date -

because I was asked to stay for a while. Not that I do not want to, I just

can not on the week... Also I had a problem. Or well, various problems.

Will PM you with a resume.

[Dermot]

Deceit?  Sounds serious.  I, for one, am absolutely horrible at deceiving people, so that's not something you'd have to worry about.  In fact, I tend to speak the frank and honest truth as I understand it.  I'm like the guy from Liar Liar.

[The Shaper]

Deceit?  Sounds serious.  I, for one, am absolutely horrible at deceiving people, so that's not something you'd have to worry about.  In fact, I tend to speak the frank and honest truth as I understand it.  I'm like the guy from Liar Liar.

Not serious he actually made another account and -somehow- fooled everyone (except the staff) that he was a new member and revealed it later. Of course your probably not going to stay, so it was nice knowing you these past few hours.

[Guest DRL]

Deceit?  Sounds serious.  I, for one, am absolutely horrible at deceiving people, so that's not something you'd have to worry about.  In fact, I tend to speak the frank and honest truth as I understand it.  I'm like the guy from Liar Liar.

Indeed. It is in true a mixture of things. For me it was

IRL with the 'decay' of the site, so I left... (Plus the reasons

I pm'd you).

[Dermot]

I'm afraid that might end up being the case...  I absolutely loathe the kind of scrutiny I get from Milkyway64, etc.  Always on my back, always something wrong with something I'm doing, never anything good enough, and then I get a headache and I feel shitty.  Like I do now.  Sure, it often sounds reasonable, but then it never, ever stops coming, no matter what I do.  And I keep coming to the inescapable conclusion that they have a fundamental problem with the kind of person/fan I am, and feel unable to let me be.  That's no way to have a daily routine.

[Guest DRL]

I'm afraid that might end up being the case...  I absolutely loathe the kind of scrutiny I get from Milkyway64, etc.  Always on my back, always something wrong with something I'm doing, never anything good enough, and then I get a headache and I feel shitty.  Like I do now.  Sure, it often sounds reasonable, but then it never, ever stops coming, no matter what I do.  And I keep coming to the inescapable conclusion that they have a fundamental problem with the kind of person/fan I am, and feel unable to let me be.  That's no way to have a daily routine.

There was actually much drama and dilemma surrounding

the "KLA group" recently... Things seem to have cooled down

from all sides. Julius left thought.

[Guest Mr. Mario]

Julius left thought.

That's what I said some moments ago.

You're not the only user that left and somehow this site falls apart later, Juilus is gone.

[Guest DRL]

That's what I said some moments ago.

I know. Just... Re-stating what is a fact. (echo).

[Dermot]

Exactly who comprise the KLA group you speak of?

Anyway, sexual dysphoria?  Wow, never expected that.  But it's hard to believe anyone gives you flak over it - it's just transgender - it's the T in LGBT.  You are LGBT. And I don't think there's anything wrong with that.  It doesn't even mean you must be a man or must be a woman - you can be whoever and whatever you want to be, and to hell with strict gender roles.  Even if everything you say is true in the most painful sense, you can live to see 30 - and 40 - and 50 - and 60 - and 70, etc.  Just don't give up.

[Guest DRL]

Exactly who comprise the KLA group you speak of?

Well, I do not like saying names... However one "of them"

is present on this thread. Not that I have something against

any of them, it is just how things turned out to be...

Exactly who comprise the KLA group you speak of?

Anyway, sexual dysphoria?  Wow, never expected that.  But it's hard to believe anyone gives you flak over it - it's just transgender - it's the T in LGBT.  You are LGBT. And I don't think there's anything wrong with that.  It doesn't even mean you must be a man or must be a woman - you can be whoever and whatever you want to be, and to hell with strict gender roles.  Even if everything you say is true in the most painful sense, you can live to see 30 - and 40 - and 50 - and 60 - and 70, etc.  Just don't give up.

Er.... Yeah. Kinda. But I do not like going around... telling it.

It was actually REALLY hard to say it, here. I was barely able to.

But, I had to clarify...

[Dermot]

Eh, you can be fine.  You needed to get past (and recover from) that leap of courage. :3

You know - I mean, I'm still a guy - but I've been called "a chick" before - by other gay guys.  And why is that?  Because I don't believe that the most important thing in a relationship always has to be about having sex.  Sometimes people just want to feel close, or maybe cuddle, but aren't exactly in the mood for relations.

In fact, a lot of the time this is far more interesting than any of the kinky X-rated stuff:

Yeah, this is my "porn".  Anyone can fool around, but it takes genuine heart and love to have moments like these.  And for that, I'm "a chick".  Chick flics and all. XD Well so be it, I simply am who I am.

[Guest DRL]

Eh, you can be fine.  You needed to get past (and recover from) that leap of courage. :3

Thank you, but in fact it is nothing 100% comfirmed yet...

Still 'on the talk' kinda.

You know - I mean, I'm still a guy - but I've been called "a chick" before - by other gay guys.

I apologize but I lolled at this.

Eh, you can be fine.  You needed to get past (and recover from) that leap of courage. :3

You know - I mean, I'm still a guy - but I've been called "a chick" before - by other gay guys.  And why is that?  Because I don't believe that the most important thing in a relationship always has to be about having sex.  Sometimes people just want to feel close, or maybe cuddle, but aren't exactly in the mood for relations.

In fact, a lot of the time this is far more interesting than any of the kinky X-rated stuff:

Yeah, this is my "porn".  Anyone can fool around, but it takes genuine heart and love to have moments like these.  And for that, I'm "a chick".  Chick flics and all. XD Well so be it, I simply am who I am.

Actually that is a nicely drawn image.

[Dermot]

Actually, you know what?  I like this stuff.  I don't care who hates it.  It shouldn't have to hide in corners.  It's perfectly decent stuff, and people who cling to annoyance or intolerance have only their own issues to blame if they somehow suffer for its presence.  It would be truly caring of me not to validate their bad habits.  And yeah, that means they have to tolerate gay PDA - I never shove smut in their faces anyway - they just have to learn to live with perfectly okay stuff, or take their suffering to their graves.

I'm really a take-no-horseshit kind of guy.

[The Shaper]

Actually, you know what?  I like this stuff.  I don't care who hates it.  It shouldn't have to hide in corners.  It's perfectly decent stuff, and people who cling to annoyance or intolerance have only their own issues to blame if they somehow suffer for its presence.  It would be truly caring of me not to validate their bad habits.  And yeah, that means they have to tolerate gay PDA - I never shove smut in their faces anyway - they just have to learn to live with perfectly okay stuff, or take their suffering to their graves.

That one pic is decent yes. So does this mean your staying?

[Dermot]

I don't know.  I dread backlash against more of this, simply because I don't crave the abuse.  But horseshit is horseshit, and I shouldn't treat it like it matters.  I was raised better than that, by a loving family who respect human and civil rights.  So...I still don't know if I'll stay. XD I have my principles, but I also hate the abuse.  I'd like to actually, you know, have a good time here.  I want to openly have my PG-13-rated gay interests unmolested.  I'm not sticking innocent gay Falco in a drawer away from view.

[Guest DRL]

Actually, you know what?  I like this stuff.  I don't care who hates it.  It shouldn't have to hide in corners.  It's perfectly decent stuff, and people who cling to annoyance or intolerance have only their own issues to blame if they somehow suffer for its presence.  It would be truly caring of me not to validate their bad habits.  And yeah, that means they have to tolerate gay PDA - I never shove smut in their faces anyway - they just have to learn to live with perfectly okay stuff, or take their suffering to their graves.

I'm really a take-no-horseshit kind of guy.

Actually there is no problem with that at all.

In fact, just because people have prejuices does not

means skill should not be commended (reffering to the picture).

In opposite, discrimination should be frowned upon.

On my country, progress is moving slowly, yet it moves.

Like that bill that recognizes gay marriage.

And now we are deraling the thread, but hey, it is your thread

after all. (lololo)

[Dermot]

Really, that's okay - there should be more married dudes visible in public.  And not just wearing street clothes at the McDonald's, but also taking their shirts off at the beach or in the park or wherever and play frisbee, right next to the mothers attending their kids.  Well, not for too long - they can get sunburned - use good judgment! XD But I'm not about to tell two guys on the street that they can't hold hands, cuddle or kiss.  In fact, I'm never going to tell them to do that.  I'm going to tell people who do tell them to do that, to go to hell.  Now to me, that's just ordinary and correct.

[Robert Monroe]

Holy pages of topic, Batman. Let me catch up to speed.

Yeah, Dermot, no. You weren't an ambassador of peace, sorry. It's just that after you "left", things got pretty bad around a week or so ago, but none of it involved you. Coincidental.

Secondly, the KLA group is primarily myself and Milky, because we came here from the KLA. I'm not afraid to admit that, but the dramafest surronding -us- is primarily gone now, so don't even worry about it.

Thirdly, you are hardheaded as hell. You seem to have this notion in your head that in order to like and enjoy your homosexart and whatever the bloody hell else, you have to shamelessly thrust it into all of our faces, yelling in the loudest of voices "I AM GAY AND THESE ARE THE GAY THINGS THAT I LIKE".

No. NO. NOOOO. Thiss not what we are SAYING at ALL. Noone CARES that you are gay or not. NOONE cares that you like yaoi. What we care about is that you rather rudely forced us to come into contact with it in every activity you did. It wasn't the art that was annoying. It wasn't the fact you're a "chick" thats annoying. It wasn't the fact that you're flamboyant that was annoying. What was ANNOYING was your endless SPEWING of it. You literally could not go into almost any topic without, pardon my language, fagging it up.

If some religious superfanatic tried doing that, he prbably would have been banned. If some video game fanboy went into every topic worshipping Master Cheif in every post, he probably would have been chased off by people. If some political farwinger came into every topic about how the Liberals/Conservatives/Jews/Mexicans/Muslims are fvcking everything up, HE WOULD LIKELY NOT BE VERY WELL RECIEVED. All of THIS said, I personally think you got it better than most "fanboys" do.

You cn have your views. You can have your interests. You can have your likes, dislikes, fanons, and beyond. But learn when its an appropriate damn time to share this information, and when its NOT. Noone hated you for being gay, we hated that you would make every post with a goddamn SQUEE about how gay/cute Falco or James or Peppy or Wolf was.

This is not telling you to hide what you like. This is telling you to be respectful and tactful. The people that DON'T wanna see it have every much right to use this message board as you do.

[Dermot]

Robert Monroe, I'm already familiar with your no - it's all you ever seem to say.  It's actually...kinda lost all its meaning.  I hope you can learn to live with your no.  But that's not something I can help you with - not anymore.  You're on your own.

[Dermot]

It seems like Robert Monroe and Milkyway64 will never leave me be.  Robert is too worried I'll "fag up the threads".  I can't think of a greater negotiation-killer than that.  It's not very comprehensible to me.  I don't even embellish or exaggerate my everyday personality - I simply am who I am.  Really, to hell with it.  If I can't behave normally without constant interference or trolling, I'm not going to stay.  It's really that simple.

Robert, this isn't an achievement for you.  You've only actually demonstrated a side of yourself that is, quite frankly, not flattering in the least.  You have succumbed to a temptation to allow something as insignificant as annoyance to dictate your conscience.

[Robert Monroe]

Robert Monroe, I'm already familiar with your no - it's all you ever seem to say.  It's actually...kinda lost all its meaning.  I hope you can learn to live with your no.  But that's not something I can help you with - not anymore.

You're the one who can't coexist with people who don't agree with you, and you say I'm the one who needs help? You're the one who time and again refuses to listen to reasonable explanations as to what it was that was disliked about you, and you say I need help?

Um, yeah, you know what Dermot? Eat a damn dick. A metaphorical one, not a literal one (because you'd probably like that dohoho). In all seriousness though, I've been trying to goddamn help you ever since -before- you left. You talk of how people need to fvcking embrace and accept you for who you are, that you shouldn't have to hide anything, how they need to open up, and then you turn right the hell around and close yourself up in your little bubble world. You do not accept advice. You do not accept other people's explanations on things. You are one of the most close minded individuals I have ever had the misfortune to come into contact with, a man who can not look at his own faults, just the faults of others, and expects people to have to change who they are and never want to change yourself.

So! Tits to all that, I say, if you wanna be goddamn self-minded and ignorant, you go right the hell on and do that. I give not a single good damn anymore. Wollow in it, fester in it, let it rot you from the inside damn out. You have refused all help. You don't want coexistance, you don't want help. You want people to bend their ass over backwards for your desires and you give nothing in return. You have ignored me, you have ignored Milk, you have ignored DRL, you have ignored Xort, you have ignored Nick, and anyone else in this topic who has time and time again attempted to explain to you that ITS NOT YOUR FVCKING HOMOSEXUALITY THAT WAS THE PROBLEM IT WAS HOW DAMN INSENSITIVE YOU WERE TO THOSE WHO DID NOT LIKE IT. But nope! Clearly, everyone is instead of damn HOMOPHOBE and you're some POOR INNOCENT VICTIM. Fvck. That. Noise. You are not the victim, you are the AGGRESSOR.

Yeah, I'm mad. I'm sick of your shit, Dermot. Sick of it, and this is where it ends. I don't care if you basically fvcking created the English speaking Starfox fandom. Any respect I have had for you is gone out the window and drifted away on a wind current to a neary volcano where they promptly evaporated. You had a lot of good traits about you, a lot of interesting things and abilities, like your skill in music and knowhow on SNES games, so this is really quite a shame, but yeah, there will always be losses. Some minor gimmicks and abilities don't equate to your bullshit narrow-mindedness and stubborness.

And that's all I have to say about that.

Edit: oh hey you made another post while I was typing thats wonderful. Glad to see you a least addressed my post now instead of some bullshit about my "no", but it becomes clear you didn't really read it at all, because I wasn't worried about you fagging the place up at all. I personally could care less, I know plenty of gays and bis who are my friends, and to be honest Dermot some of them are more "gay" acting than you. No, I was merely pointing out what could possibly have been the reasons people got annoyed with you were. This isn't an achivement for me, and never was, but as I say earlier on my post: YOU DON'T GODDAMN CARE WELL ENOUGH ABOUT THAT. As said before, and I am saying again: revel in your self-absorbed arrogance. Not gonna stay because you can't be who you are? Well then to that I say -good-, because who you are is completely self-enclosed and unapproachable about anything.

[Steve]

Alright guys, solve this via pms. Topic locked. I don't want to get the forum in war again, so act like the adults you are and solve it in private. Or keep flaming each other, on either ways,  I don't care, I just want damn peace for once in a while. Warning will be issued to Rob.

Do not want.