Old SChool Cars OR Modern Marvel Cars?

[Vrance Movado]

Well here it is. This popped up in my Auto Tech class and I thought I'd take it here.. So, whats it gonna be hmm? I personally prefer modern cars over old school. No offense to anyone its my opinion and I respect yours.

[Asper Sarnoff]

While both sides have their pros and cons, there really is no decision for me. I love the classic, American muscle car with all my heart.

[Vy'drach]

Considering my favourite car is the 2001 Dodge Viper GTS (black with silver racing stripes preferred), I'd have to lean towards modern. I agree with Marv from Sin City however, when he says, "Modern cars, they all look like electric shavers." I don't like the new Corvette, Camaro, Mustang, or just really any modern sports car, except the Viper. If I can't get my hands on a Viper GTS, I'd love a 1972 Buick Riviera.

[EazyIN]

I'm leaning more to the old school. While I'd love to have a 1959 'Vette, I'll be realistic and say I'd rather stick with a 96' GMC Sierra.

[Fire Yoshi]

When it comes to car collecting games, I like just about any car.  I'm a car collecting guy, so I'm not TOO picky.

I also have a thing for concept cars.

[Sabre]

Why do they never make those? They look great, but when the finished cars come it's another focus or micra.

[Asper Sarnoff]

Why do they never make those? They look great, but when the finished cars come it's another focus or micra.

Not always though, luckily. Good examples could be the 5th gen Chevy Camaro (The current), and the new Range Rover Evoque.

[Vrance Movado]

Well I dont really like old muscle cars. Not my intrest. I drive on O1 Jeep Grand Cherokee Laredo. Its awsome. My other car that I no longer own was an O3 Hyundai Tiburon GT V6. That was my pride but I do like the Shelby. No sure what year it is though.

[TGearfur]

I don't care as long as I get to drive it. I prefer American cars though, I wish us americans had more Super Cars designed and built here. Like the Ford GT.

Panoz is alright, but they don't build there own motors, they use Ford motors. (It is not like that is a bad thing) Plus you prolly wouldn't have heard of Panoz, unless you have played a Racing sim, or have been to a race track. Saleen is such a small company, and not once has the S7 been shown on Top Gear (The UK Version), hell I don't even think I has seen Saleen Mustang on the show. Shelby does only Mustangs, and the occasional concept that was just a publicity stunt.

I think America needs to knock the Italians off their high horses again like they did in the 60s at le-mans. Ford beating Ferraris for 4 straight years, and one of those years, the Ford GT40s placed 1st, 2nd, and 3rd, this was because the Henry Ford II got pissed, at the deal gone sour over Ford buying Ferrari, and got the best engineers to work on a car that would knock Enzo Ferrari down a few notches.

With our government in control of GM, I don't expect anything out of them other than economy cars, and lower class sports cars.

I think I got way off track here, but I like to talk about the subject.

Dream car would defiantly have to be a Ferrari F40 (The last pure racer's Ferrari.) Very close second would be a Lamborghini Countach. (As much as it is a case of, don't meet your heros.)

My Geek car would be a DMC-12 with a decent engine swap. That stock drivetrain is hopeless, seriously a Opel/Renault engine, what a piece of garbage that engine is.

According to Forza 3, with its poor performance, the only other car that is worse, is the VW Rabbit. Yeah, it is that bad.

[Asper Sarnoff]

I don't care as long as I get to drive it. I prefer American cars though, I wish us americans had more Super Cars designed and built here. Like the Ford GT.

Panoz is alright, but they don't build there own motors, they use Ford motors. (It is not like that is a bad thing) Plus you prolly wouldn't have heard of Panoz, unless you have played a Racing sim, or have been to a race track. Saleen is such a small company, and not once has the S7 been shown on Top Gear (The UK Version), hell I don't even think I has seen Saleen Mustang on the show. Shelby does only Mustangs, and the occasional concept that was just a publicity stunt.

I think America needs to knock the Italians off their high horses again like they did in the 60s at le-mans. Ford beating Ferraris for 4 straight years, and one of those years, the Ford GT40s placed 1st, 2nd, and 3rd, this was because the Henry Ford II got pissed, at the deal gone sour over Ford buying Ferrari, and got the best engineers to work on a car that would knock Enzo Ferrari down a few notches.

With our government in control of GM, I don't expect anything out of them other than economy cars, and lower class sports cars.

I think I got way off track here, but I like to talk about the subject.

Nice to see another petrolhead, and Top Gear fan by the looks of it, around.

I fully agree with you by the way. I'd love to see more of what American could do if tasked with making a worldbeating super car. GM proved they could stand their ground against supercars costing up to three times as much when they launched the C6 ZR-1, and I'd love to see what they or another of the D3 could do with a clean sheet to work from. As soon as their economical backbone grows strong enough to support it, I'd like to see GM try their hands at reviving the Caddy Cien concept. Mid-engined, preferably with the new 5.5 small-block powering it, NA or with forced induction. I also expect the next gen Corvette, probably going to be revealed this year, to be moving slighly upscale and improving an allready excellent chassis.

If Chrysler can keep it together, they'll also launch the next generation of the Dodge Viper in the not to distant future, and there are rumors, albeit faint, that Ford is considering a new halo-car. A follow-up to the GT if you want.

Then we have Vector, re-emerged from the dead, and promising some incredible stuff from their next project. Have my doubts, but it's nice having them around anyway.

Oh, and regarding the Peugeot/Renault/Volvo V-6 used in the Delorean. Believe it or not, but I do think heavily F/I'ed version of that engine still holds the record for highest top speed at Le Mans. 406 km/h (or 253 mph) at the end of the Mulsane straight. Blowing up shortly after though.

[Sabre]

Top Gear is becomeing less of a car show and more of an entertainment challenge show. 5th gear does the car thing more I think.

[TGearfur]

Nice to see another petrolhead, and Top Gear fan by the looks of it, around.

I fully agree with you by the way. I'd love to see more of what American could do if tasked with making a worldbeating super car. GM proved they could stand their ground against supercars costing up to three times as much when they launched the C6 ZR-1, and I'd love to see what they or another of the D3 could do with a clean sheet to work from. As soon as their economical backbone grows strong enough to support it, I'd like to see GM try their hands at reviving the Caddy Cien concept. Mid-engined, preferably with the new 5.5 small-block powering it, NA or with forced induction. I also expect the next gen Corvette, probably going to be revealed this year, to be moving slighly upscale and improving an allready excellent chassis.

If Chrysler can keep it together, they'll also launch the next generation of the Dodge Viper in the not to distant future, and there are rumors, albeit faint, that Ford is considering a new halo-car. A follow-up to the GT if you want.

Then we have Vector, re-emerged from the dead, and promising some incredible stuff from their next project. Have my doubts, but it's nice having them around anyway.

Oh, and regarding the Peugeot/Renault/Volvo V-6 used in the Delorean. Believe it or not, but I do think heavily F/I'ed version of that engine still holds the record for highest top speed at Le Mans. 406 km/h (or 253 mph) at the end of the Mulsane straight. Blowing up shortly after though.

Oh how could I have forgotten Vector, only time I ever saw or heard of them was in Gran Turismo 2 on the PS1, and never has one of their cars appeared in any other game that I have seen.

The Dodge Viper I heard that the new one was gonna be based on the Alfa Romeo 8C, I have heard that get thrown around as being speculation, and just a rumor. But I believe on the American Top Gear they mentioned it in their premier episode.

Well regarding the engine in the Delorean, I mainly meant when it was stock, that thing was hopeless, they do tune them up through the current Delorean company up to 193HP, and dubbed them the DMC S2.

We will just have to wait and see what Ford, GM, and Chrysler has in store for us.  (And Vector possibly)

I grew up in a Ford Family, every car we have had since I was born was a Ford. First one I remember was a mid 80s Ford Tempo Coupe 2.3l I4 5-speed manual, it was in so many wrecks, I wont even bother to explain them, thing had overheating problems there toward the last of its days, then one day (While climbing a hill.) the clutch gave out, sat in our driveway until we gave it to someone who fixed it up for their son.

In 97 we leased a 97 Ford Windstar, that thing was involved in 3 accidents, first of which was a 3 car accident where someone pulled out of a shopping center right infront of us, so they were at fault. Luckily at my age I was lucky to be sitting in the middle seats, because the Airbags didn't deploy properly, they just exploded. Then a year or two later, we were on a trip back from New York, after filling for gas, no more than 5 min after getting on the highway, the right front wheel flew off, the bolts sheered right off, the wheel flew out into the woods and was never found, and my dad wasn't gonna drive on the dummy tire all the way back from the catskills in New York to Western Ohio, so they retrieved a same sized wheel from a junk yard. Of course the rotor had to be replaced too. I don't remember all the details, I was only 8 or 9. Other wreck wasn't much of a wreck, just when parked at the side of the road, some dumbass got so close, they smashed the rear left tail-light and smashed the left side mirror.

Then in 01', we got an 01' Windstar, heavier with the same engine, so not much get up and go, but more that what any Honda or Toyota van my parents test drove. That was an uneventful vehicle. But I have come to hear Ford recent recalled of Windstars from 98' models up till they stopped making them, for the rear axles could unexpectedly snap, one incident  caused a fatal accident for a family back before Christmas.

Then the car we have been driving since 06, a 06' Ford Fusion SE, 2.3L I4 5 speed manual. This is the car I learned to drive in. Yes I learned to drive in a Manual (Standard for the rest of the world) I truly believe a Manual is the only way to learn to drive, all these damn Auto transmissions making people lazy. Hell anymore you have to special order a car with a Manual Transmission which is sad.

But Before the Tempo, my dad had a 79' Mustang, it was the Turbo Charged I4 one. Turbo was long dead before it broke down in New York and parents didn't have the money to tow it back to Ohio, so they just bought the Tempo and drove that back to Ohio.

Sadly, at the age of 20, I still have yet to get a car. Was looking to get one a couple months ago in the sub $1k region. But decided against it, since no full time job, I can't get the insurance.

A friend of mine has had 4 different cars in the past 3 years. First was a 91 Honda Civic, sold that after the transmission started to slip for $600, then got a 99' Lumina for $300, Fixed it up to GREAT running condition for $150, he then traded that for a 94' Ford F-150 with Extended Cab, and extended bed. After replacing the Balljoints, and replacing the rear leaf-spring brackets, sold it for $800.

Now in the past month, he has got a 89 Honda Accord LXi for $200, thing runs great, and pop-up headlight mechanisms still work perfectly, and has minimal rust, and no major engine problems, just the starter motor likes to act up on the first key turn, and the left passenger door needs to be locked with the electric locks. (Which work.)

I Almost had myself a 86' Prelude, but the chassis was starting to rust through, so it was scrapped. It had a 5 Speed manual too

Oh God, Sorry about going though my literally going though my life's story about cars. 

Top Gear is becomeing less of a car show and more of an entertainment challenge show. 5th gear does the car thing more I think.

I still prefer Top Gear. Never cared for Fifth Gear all that much myself. Then again it has been forever since I have seen any episodes. Guess I should download some off Finalgear.com.

[Geo Stelar]

The only (at least I think) classic car I liked was the old Beetle. My dad used to own one and says it is more durable then the new version (i.e. in Herbie)

I like the modern cars a bit more. I'd like to see more eco-friendly cars in the future, though.

[TGearfur]

The only (at least I think) classic car I liked was the old Beetle. My dad used to own one and says it is more durable then the new version (i.e. in Herbie)

I like the modern cars a bit more. I'd like to see more eco-friendly cars in the future, though.

Lets just hope the Eco cars in the future won't be as garbage as they are now.

Greenpeace can shove it.

[Nova]

The Lamborghini SuperLeggera. The only car that I have ever fallen in love with.

The way it sounds when you peel out of a stop, The Scream of the engine as you reach 250 km/h+, The sharp and clean cut curves of the aerodynamic body. The respect that it gets in the racing scene. Oh god I would do ANYTHING for one of these babies...

here is a pic of the sexy beast:

In EVERY racing game I play, i drive this car or the gallardo (Similar but heavier/slower). I dont care if I cant keep up with the other cars, I just lower the difficulty and drive my car in pure extasy.

Speaking of which. I will rent Forza Motorsport 3 tonight :3

[sniper]

Muscle cars all the way. (I'm kinda biased though seeing as I restored one)

[Fire Yoshi]

The Lamborghini SuperLeggera. The only car that I have ever fallen in love with.

The way it sounds when you peel out of a stop, The Scream of the engine as you reach 250 km/h+, The sharp and clean cut curves of the aerodynamic body. The respect that it gets in the racing scene. Oh god I would do ANYTHING for one of these babies...

here is a pic of the sexy beast:

In EVERY racing game I play, i drive this car or the gallardo (Similar but heavier/slower). I dont care if I cant keep up with the other cars, I just lower the difficulty and drive my car in pure extasy.

Speaking of which. I will rent Forza Motorsport 3 tonight :3

I spy with my little eye, a Forza fan. =D

[Fang O'Donnell]

Subaru Impreza WRX STi 2006, world rally blue, snow tires. BEST CAR!!!

[Steph McCloud]

I prefer older cars, my favorite being a 1970 Dodge Challenger :-P

[Asper Sarnoff]

I prefer older cars, my favorite being a 1970 Dodge Challenger

Can I hug you?

[Gene Inari]

I actually own an '83 Pontiac Firebird. >_>

Inherited it from my father.

Like this, but with gold colored rims:

[Steph McCloud]

Can I hug you?

A hug from somebody that loves old muscle cars and enjoys 1970 Dodge Challengers? I couldnt say no to a hug from somebody like that.