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Sabre Posted December 18, 2010 Share Posted December 18, 2010 Should there be school uniforms?MaybeShould schools interfere with personal social-networking sites?NoWhat can students talk about in school?Probley notWhat should a student should or shouldn't where?How far should punishment go?This is why uniforms should maybe be enforced. One case feminists bring up was a case where a girl decided to have short hair, so the teacher made her stand up in front of class and be mocked. While the details (if it happened at all) can't be found and no mention of it outside of feminist blogs means it probley didn't happen, it does point out the problem. There are also issues of people wearing/doing all kinds of crazy things in the name of 'religon' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Samantha Weltzin Posted December 18, 2010 Share Posted December 18, 2010 "Should there be school uniforms?"Uniforms? No. Gives the impression that we're all the same, which I think is the wrong message to send. However, I think dress codes need to be in place and enforced so that we don't have the opposite problem of students getting away with looking like whores and gangsters."What should a student should or shouldn't where?"Similarly to above, I don't think students ought to be allowed to look like lowlife scum. Individual styles are fine, and I actually encourage new and interesting things, but I draw the line at ripped jeans, short shorts, low-cut shirts, super-low baggy pants, and backwards/sideways caps. To allow that is bull and gives the wrong message of what is acceptable in the real world."How far should punishment go?"Actually, there's this technique I learned of recently that I really like. It's called "retraining." It's one of the most patronizing things I've ever heard of, but the idea is that if a student messes something up, you assume that that student doesn't know it, so you bring him or her in on his or her own time to "retrain" the behavior. Repeat as necessary. That way you're not punishing the kid and you can't say the kid doesn't know the rules."Should schools interfere with personal social-networking sites?"On school grounds? Heck yes. Students need to learn that accessing personal crap on school time is unacceptable, as you're not supposed to access personal stuff on professional time either. Anywhere else? Stay the heck away from the sites. That's the parents' job."What can students talk about in school?"Honestly, I'd love to see schools where nothing is taboo, so long as the more mature topics are approached maturely and academically. All sheltering does is make something have the "forbidden fruit syndrome," where it becomes all the more tantalizing. Add to that the fact that any topic not discussed by someone who knows what they're talking about will inevitably provide misinformation, and I don't see why we feel the need to censor anything."What is considered punishable?"Anything that disrupts the classroom or causes harm. This does not, however, include legitimately curious inquiry or side-topics brought on by a train of thought. However, it's up to the teacher to get back on-track once the question has been answered."How far can students go in working with the school(ex: Student Councils)"The older students get, the more privilege they ought to have in working to change their schools. They won't get management or leadership skills without those opportunities. That said, younger students don't have the abstract thinking abilities (in general) to make important decisions. Once students have proven that they can think of organizations greater than themselves, they can start getting involved in actual decision-making. Also: Enough of the patronizing "Student Council" crap where students and teachers pretend the students have power when, in reality, they don't do squat."How much privacy can a student have?"If the student is using school equipment, everything ought to be accessible to faculty. If it's the student's own possessions (cell phones and such), they ought to be entitled to due process just as every other U.S. citizen is (no searching a student's cell without a warrant, for instance). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoctorAllosaurus Posted December 18, 2010 Share Posted December 18, 2010 "Should there be school uniforms?"Uniforms? No. Gives the impression that we're all the same, which I think is the wrong message to send. However, I think dress codes need to be in place and enforced so that we don't have the opposite problem of students getting away with looking like whores and gangsters."What should a student should or shouldn't where?"Similarly to above, I don't think students ought to be allowed to look like lowlife scum. Individual styles are fine, and I actually encourage new and interesting things, but I draw the line at ripped jeans, short shorts, low-cut shirts, super-low baggy pants, and backwards/sideways caps. To allow that is bull and gives the wrong message of what is acceptable in the real world."How far should punishment go?"Actually, there's this technique I learned of recently that I really like. It's called "retraining." It's one of the most patronizing things I've ever heard of, but the idea is that if a student messes something up, you assume that that student doesn't know it, so you bring him or her in on his or her own time to "retrain" the behavior. Repeat as necessary. That way you're not punishing the kid and you can't say the kid doesn't know the rules."Should schools interfere with personal social-networking sites?"On school grounds? Heck yes. Students need to learn that accessing personal crap on school time is unacceptable, as you're not supposed to access personal stuff on professional time either. Anywhere else? Stay the heck away from the sites. That's the parents' job."What can students talk about in school?"Honestly, I'd love to see schools where nothing is taboo, so long as the more mature topics are approached maturely and academically. All sheltering does is make something have the "forbidden fruit syndrome," where it becomes all the more tantalizing. Add to that the fact that any topic not discussed by someone who knows what they're talking about will inevitably provide misinformation, and I don't see why we feel the need to censor anything."What is considered punishable?"Anything that disrupts the classroom or causes harm. This does not, however, include legitimately curious inquiry or side-topics brought on by a train of thought. However, it's up to the teacher to get back on-track once the question has been answered."How far can students go in working with the school(ex: Student Councils)"The older students get, the more privilege they ought to have in working to change their schools. They won't get management or leadership skills without those opportunities. That said, younger students don't have the abstract thinking abilities (in general) to make important decisions. Once students have proven that they can think of organizations greater than themselves, they can start getting involved in actual decision-making. Also: Enough of the patronizing "Student Council" crap where students and teachers pretend the students have power when, in reality, they don't do squat."How much privacy can a student have?"If the student is using school equipment, everything ought to be accessible to faculty. If it's the student's own possessions (cell phones and such), they ought to be entitled to due process just as every other U.S. citizen is (no searching a student's cell without a warrant, for instance).Ripped jeans, really? Sure I can understand if there is a hole in the crotch or ass area, but I really like the holey knee kind. I've always seen the ripped knees as an alternative to shorts, they do the same thing but they also protect you from sadistically cold places like movie theatres. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Samantha Weltzin Posted December 18, 2010 Share Posted December 18, 2010 Ripped jeans, really? Sure I can understand if there is a hole in the crotch or ass area, but I really like the holey knee kind. I've always seen the ripped knees as an alternative to shorts, they do the same thing but they also protect you from sadistically cold places like movie theatres.Small rips are fine, but the school is supposed to be a relatively serious place, and ripped jeans give the impression that you're just not taking things seriously. I'll admit, though, that that's near the bottom of the list of things that need to be fixed in the school system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DZComposer Posted December 18, 2010 Share Posted December 18, 2010 Should there be school uniforms?Mixed feelings. Private schools, fine. Public schools, however, should subsidize the cost if they wish to do it, as not all students could afford them. As far as the non-financial reasons, I am split there, too. On the one hand, many jobs require uniforms, but on the other, students are required to go to school while those who work at businesses with uniforms are not required to work there.What should a student should or shouldn't wear?Schools should be able to set a dress code. Regardless of your feelings on morality, a girl in a see-through top will be distracting to others.How far should punishment go?It should have some correlation to the wrongdoing committed. IE suspending a student for making a political statement is ridiculous and wrong. Should schools interfere with personal social-networking sites?Only during school time on on school computers. You're there to learn, not browse Facebook. Elsewise, no. What students do on their own time at home is not the school's business.What can students talk about in school?The rules of free speech should apply. Note that the rules of free speech still disallow threatening and panic-inducing speech.What is considered punishable?Private Schools: Whatever they want. Public schools: Up to individual communities, so long as they are inline with the supreme law of the land, IE the US Constitution in the USHow far can students go in working with the school(ex: Student Councils)Don't give students the illusion of power they don't have. If the student council doesn't get a vote in school policy, they shouldn't consider it any form of "government."How much privacy can a student have?Private Schools: They can do what they want. They are private institutions. Public Schools: Should comply with privacy statutes that govern all other government agencies. In the US that includes the 4th and 5th amendments to the constitution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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"User" Posted December 24, 2010 Share Posted December 24, 2010 Okay heres another topic.Should schools prevent bulling or say its just a part of growing up.Being picked on, abused, or even beat up is NOT a part of growing up. Schools just try and take every reasonable step to ensure bullying remains at a minimum or eliminated outright. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xortberg Posted December 24, 2010 Share Posted December 24, 2010 I for one have always found it outrageous that in a fight at school, self-defense will get a student punished. Just recently, a guy I know got the shit beat out of him because he knew if he fought back he'd be punished, and since he's coming to my school but living in a different county he'd have to leave and go to another school. Seems pretty ridiculous to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samantha Weltzin Posted December 24, 2010 Share Posted December 24, 2010 I for one have always found it outrageous that in a fight at school, self-defense will get a student punished. Just recently, a guy I know got the shit beat out of him because he knew if he fought back he'd be punished, and since he's coming to my school but living in a different county he'd have to leave and go to another school. Seems pretty ridiculous to me.Yeah. The whole rule there was a misguided attempt to not have to deal with the "He started it" excuse, taken way too far. Sometimes the best way to deal with a bully is to beat the shit out of him. In fact, most of the time, that's the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geo Stelar Posted December 24, 2010 Share Posted December 24, 2010 Should there be school uniforms?For me, Yes. Wearing uniforms will cut down more time, the time used in picking, "Which one should I wear? Would my shirt go well with my jeans?" By having uniforms these sometimes time-consuming decisions would be avoided. Plus, when a student is lost or something like that, having a uniform will help in finding where he/she lives, in case the I.D. is lost.What should a student should or shouldn't where?For me, students should wear uniforms. Read above.How far should punishment go?For me, it depends on how serious the offense was.Should schools interfere with personal social-networking sites?No , unless it has something to do with or someone within the school itself.What can students talk about in school?I think, about anything except those subjects which involve mature material.What is considered punishable?Being part of a gang or fraternity, or sorority, for me, is punishable, unless that group is intended for the good, and not just the gangs you see around. How much privacy can a student have?Oh, come on, it's privacy, why should we know? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPEAKERnight. Posted December 24, 2010 Share Posted December 24, 2010 Should there be school uniforms?I think it really depends on if the school as a whole can handle not wearing school uniforms. If the school has a history of students deliberately not following the school dress code, then slap the uniforms on them. If the school doesn't have that much of a problem, don't worry about it.What should a student should or shouldn't where?Anything as long as it is not offensive to anyone. To girls, as long as it showing off to much skin (good amount is clothes covering about 75% of the body). For piercings, the max should be ear and upper lip piercings (as far as ones that are visible to everyone @ anytime).How far should punishment go?Not as far as going to jail because of a fight unless it there are broken bones/blood shedding.Should schools interfere with personal social-networking sites?Absolutely not. The reasons we have social networking websites are to vent about our problems, work or school. School interfering with that is almost equivalent to going through someone's personal belongings like a diary or something.What can students talk about in school?The sky's pretty much the limit in public school as long as it is usually relevant to the discussion. when at lunch, anything goes.What is considered punishable?Whatever it says in the school board handbook usually. My school has come up with some pretty ridiculous rules that are apparently okay with them. How far can students go in working with the school(ex: Student Councils)Student Council can do a LOT in the school if it can help the school, which apparently is a lot.How much privacy can a student have?I'm going with Geo Tortona ZX. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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