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Classical or Bullpup?  

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  1. 1. Classical or Bullpup?

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Imma go Classical, simply for the fact that you can see the ammo go in so you know its in and you barely have to move if you did it wrong.

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Imma go Classical, simply for the fact that you can see the ammo go in so you know its in and you barely have to move if you did it wrong.

that knid of counts for all weapons ya know....
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that knid of counts for all weapons ya know....

i know, im also a sucker for the AK

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^ lol me too; it is the most popular weapon in the wold! It is also most likely the easiest to use; a kid could use it. it is also one of the easiest to maintain and clean. it could aslo be run-over and still usable, or crack someone's skull with it and it would still work. You could abuse the hell out of it and it would still work. It is an awsome weapon....but i knid of lik the new AN-94 a little better ...^_^

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Also, I hate the l85. Should have gotten a picture  of the tavor. :D

Funny thing is I'm the opposite on that. Hate the TAR-21 (and everything else made by IMI), and love the L85A2, not the A1, things a piece of junk. Much prefer the Singapore SAR-21 to the IMI Tavor TAR-21.

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Only two real problems with it, it's not ambidextrous, and the fire selector isn't above the trigger guard, it's farther back at the action. Everything else was addressed, or just soldiers being unfamiliar with a bullpup, and was solved with training. To me, it looks like a much more comfortable and pleasant gun to shoot, and looks better to boot.

As for the actual topic on hand, went with bullpups because generally they will be better, but it all depends on the difference in weapons. M16 vs. L85A1, I'd have to go with the M16, as much as I hate that gun. The failure rate and dangerous flaws on the L85A1 were just too numerous and occurred too often though, even more than the M16. M16 vs. L85A2, no contest, L85A2 any day of the week and twice on Sunday. L85A2 vs. this little beauty,

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the AN-94, again no contest, AN-94. Round has more stopping power, an effective range of 750m, that's right, 7-5-0 meters, and can put two rounds through the same hole at 100 meters. Also due to the two round burst, it tends to guarantee cavitation in the target because the second round strikes the first one in the back and causes it to flip.

i know, im also a sucker for the AK

Oh, and they make bullpup AK-47's.

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okay, FINE

Im also a sucker for the AK, CLASSIC

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okay, FINE

Im also a sucker for the AK, CLASSIC

Don't take it personally, just saying that they do. Pretty much you name it, there's an AK variant of it.

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Don't take it personally, just saying that they do. Pretty much you name it, there's an AK variant of it.

i know dude. i wqas just playin

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i know dude. i wqas just playin

Can't tell through text.

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Pretty much you name it, there's an AK variant of it.

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Now how many of you have fired your favorite gun?

Or just used in a COD, or BC game and decided if its good in the game, it must be good IRL?

Or decided just because it looks cool?  :trollface:

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Most bullpup variants of already manufactured weapons feel and fire just the same as the original, as said by most gun wielders of the rifle(s).  I actually got to fire a Saiga 12 bullpup, although never have fired the original since it's famous in Russia and other countries (Maybe), and it has a somewhat low recoil.  I have seen someone fire the Mossberg shotgun (Unsure which model, though), then fired the bullpup, and he said that it feels very similar. 

FYI, I was at a firing range with a Marine buddy of mine that was waiting on the call from his colonel, and he took me to it so that I could fire a few semi-auto/full-auto rifles.  To be honest, I've never fired one until he asked someone to let me fire a M16A1 (Vietnam era-style rifle).  It felt VERY light and it took me awhile to get into a comfortable stance to fire it.  It's accurate and was fun to shoot.

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Bullpup...just because I love the bullpup weapons on the Tom Clancy games, like Rainbow 6 Vegas 2.  Powerfull and accurate.

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Just real quick, a kid couldn't fire an AK very well, the recoil'd knock him off his feet

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Just real quick, a kid couldn't fire an AK very well, the recoil'd knock him off his feet

I doubt that, actually. My AK's furniture is polymer, making it lighter, and it fires a 7.62x51mm NATO as opposed to 7.62x39mmR that the standard AK fires, and it doesn't have much recoil at all.

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Yes but you're using a civilian model, and not the standard Russian piece of awesome we all know and love

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The wood furniture on the military AK would give it greater weight and less recoil. A child might not be able to full-auto fire it completely accurately, but it wouldn't knock his fight off the ground at all, or even push him back.

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The guy was also standing like a damned idiot. You can't plant your feet side by side and fire a weapon larger than a .22. If you don't, the weapon will cause you to lose your balance for a moment. Notice the other two firing the G3 and M16 had their right feet planted behind them. That's a basic firearm firing pose.

If a child knows the basics on shooting a firearm, leaning into it with feet firmly planted, he should not get pushed by it. It will rise, but won't knock him back. Unless you give it to someone like a 4 year old, but a strong gust of wind can knock them over. 8-12 though, if they've been taught what to do, should have little problem.

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very good comments; also, the AK-47 is technically a machine gun-they didint bother to take it out of the AR class of weapons becasue it is small enough to be considered an Assault rifle; despite it's RPK and other "machine gun" brothers sisiters and cousins.

But almost like what Vy said, some AK's-suc has the '74 assault rifle- is capable of shooting the common Nato round (5.56) and is also capable of firing it's home team 7.62 round (wich can tear you to shreds in some instances).

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Actually, the AK-47 is based partially off the Sturmgewehr 44, which means Storm (Assault) Rifle 44. Only thing that would make an AK-47 a machine gun is fully automatic fire, but even some pistols are capable of that. It fires an intermediate rifle cartridge, is magazine fed, and is relatively lightweight and portable, which fit the classifications of an assault rifle. The AK is an assault rifle, the RPD is an LMG, though it fires the intermediate round, also, and the RPK is rather a toss-up, as it's really no more than an oversized AK with a longer barrel and a drum mag, but it is used in a SAW role. Have to be careful with the RPD and RPK, however, as they don't have easily removed barrels, which can cause cook-off when they overheat.

Also, the AK-74 fires 5.45x39mmR, the Russian AKs that fire 5.56x45mm NATO are the AK-101, 102, and 108.

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