Possible Star Fox movie. Spread the word.

[DZComposer]

I stumbled across the most serious Star Fox film project I have ever seen. It's still just a proposal, but I think with some publicity we can help. Even if it ends up being a lowly independent fanfilm.

I'm feeling lazy and not wanting to type all of this again, so:

http://starfox-online.net/2011/01/03/a-serious-sf-film-2/

Note that Nintendo is infamous for saying "NO" to movie proposals, so fan support for this will likely be critical.

[Fureox]

Sounds like a good project, can't wait to see how this turns out :yes:

[Zzz]

holy cow professional guys eh?

definitely sounds interesting

EDIT: http://www.youtube.com/user/DirectorIR

his channel...

[Lord Asriel]

The youtube channel doesn't mean anything. But surely I hope they don't talk like this annoying cat.

[Zzz]

Well filmstudents have the tendency to put their graduation films on youtube, tho I couldn't find anything.

I get the feeling he had starfox in mind while doing these cat animations, that's what I find so interesting about his videos!

With the script, several years of research on every title in the Arwing series, forum posts views, and the help of artist Daniel ” Oshouki ” Wong; Irwin Rathore has set out for a second attempt at make a movie adaptation based on the Star Fox universe. With a script treatment in hand, and a passion to see this vision realized, Irwin is pulling all the stops inorder to do so. Even if that means approaching Nintendo a second time to pitch it. Check out his Facebook page for more information and support his cause.

Looks like he "never gives up". That's the spirit!

I mostly think Nintendo said No without even hearing him out the first time

[DZComposer]

He needs backing for Nintendo to greenlight it. I think fan support would only serve to help him. Will it be enough? Who knows.

While Nintendo usually says no, they do say yes from time to time. Many of Nintendo's major franchises have had movies or TV series made for them. Mario, Zelda, Pokemon, Donkey Kong, Kirby...  Even freaking F-Zero, though that was Japan-only. Metroid and Star Fox seem to be the only majorly notworthy absences from that list. Though I do remember there were serious talks about a Metroid live-action film.

[Zzz]

how did the f-zero show come to be, btw? Also suggestions from fans or did Nintendo come up with it all by themselves?

edit: in his proposal he mentions an animated series? was that his original idea?!

[DZComposer]

F-Zero was made by Ashi Productions. Not sure if the original idea was NCL's or Ashi's.

[Asper Sarnoff]

Definatively looks interesting. Will make sure to get the word out there.

[Falcory]

I don't want to come off as an ass.....but there's something that sort of irks me about this project. Not that I'm not grateful that Starfox is getting some recognition, it badly needs it.....it's just....I dunno.

On a side-note one thing I did notice is that he mentions not deviating from the main source material too much and he changes a couple of things that don't really fit in with the game's story and feel. But I don't really think that's the big thing that's bothering me.

But one thing I am sort of interested in is question of voice actors. I would assume that since it's a fan film amateur VA's would be involved but I'm just guessing. Since that's a career I'm trying to pursue I wouldn't mind auditioning if that ever came up. But only time can really tell. 

[Zzz]

You mean like Slippery Toad?

"Arwing series" and Peppy as the commander?

Well they've been studying the games the last 5 years so they can't be wrong

No seriously, these are only minor things I guess, what exactly is your concern?

[Falcory]

You mean like Slippery Toad?

"Arwing series" and Peppy as the commander?

Well they studied the games the last 5 years so they can't be wrong

No seriously, these are only minor things I guess, what exactly is your concern?

I'm not sure exactly were I heard it, but I believe Slippy had something to do with the Arwing's creation in the first place. So I'm not bothered by that in the least. XD

Peppy as the commander is a deviation of course, and even though it's a bit off to me, I totally understand it. Peppy WAS part of the original Starfox team so he would have more experience and knowledge than Fox. Although if you kinda think about it....the 64 intro points out that Fox headed a "new" Starfox team, as if the old one had been officially disbanded and Fox decided to put it back together, meaning it would be his idea and he would be the head. But.....I dunno, who can say? lol

But at the risk of sounding like a rabid Falco fan, the one idea I REALLY don't like is this Falco and Katt relationship in which Katt thinks he has something to do with him killing her brother. Now I'm not sure what impression most of you got from the 64 game, but Katt seemed like she was more "Flirtatious" with Falco rather than blaming him for the loss of a family member. And even though I'm not saying it's not possible that Falco would have a relationship with her, but he gives off the constant "I'm too tough to fall in love attitude" for not only the earlier games but the later ones as well.  Don't get me wrong I'm not one to make character judgements since I don't own the series....but it just seems like some pretty bad character direction.

Another inconsistency I picked up that I'm not sure if others did, is that Pigma betrays the Starfox team on MacBeth, instead of Venom. It's not really bothersome in my eyes, but I thought it worth mentioning.

[Zzz]

where is that info with falco and katt written?  :shock: I didn't see it anywhere

never mind I found it....o_O

[Falcory]

It was in the summary plot.  Here let me give you the link......

http://issuu.com/irwinr./docs/starfox_summary_ir?mode=embed&layout=http%3A//skin.issuu.com/v/light/layout.xml

[Milkyway64]

While that bugs me too, I understand where they are coming from. SF is full of stock characters, and this is a way to make things more interesting. It'd add to both Katt and Falco, but the question is whether or not WHAT it adds is a good thing.

[Zzz]

While that bugs me too, I understand where they are coming from. SF is full of stock characters, and this is a way to make things more interesting. It'd add to both Katt and Falco, but the question is whether or not WHAT it adds is a good thing.

The idea is to stay true to the source material and not deviate too much from its original beauty.

Well, that Falco part kinda contradicts this. Without even knowing WHAT EXACTLY happened there with that Brother-thing it looks too much like the personality of Falco/Katt is being adulterated.

So I can see where Falcory is coming from.

[Milkyway64]

Well, that Falco part kinda contradicts this. Without even knowing WHAT EXACTLY happened there with that Brother-thing it looks too much like the personality of Falco/Katt is being adulterated.

So I can see where Falcory is coming from.

It actually doesn't. It's hinted at quite a bit that Falco wasn't always a guy who played by the rules. His past is shady, and we also know not a thing about it. It's entirely possible he murdered someone or at least was responsible for their death, and it's also possible Katt would play like she does for a shot at revenge.

[Zzz]

if it DOES or NOT we can only see when it's finished, just stating that it can go ANYwhere. -> also into the area where charaters are far away from their original iteration.

It's hinted at quite a bit that Falco wasn't always a guy who played by the rules. His past is shady, and we also know not a thing about it

Yea sure,  I almost take that for granted, actually.

But how far can it go while still being true to his personality in the games?

[Vy'drach]

Well this certainly looks interesting, though his motto makes me question it. Always felt someone should make what they think a great *insert project here* is, rather than what they think the audience will think is a great *insert project here*. How James Cameron did Avatar, and like it or not, it is unarguably a successful movie.

[Steve]

Hard to believe still soo  sign me in the "non-believers" still.

However, if they try to make one, I'd rather have it done in anime style instead of something "serious".

[KokoaMinto]

...Sorry to say this, but his storyboard scrip is just more than crap.

I read the somewhat-on-going script he uploaded on his website and for some reason everything is just a pain in my eyes, I can't stand it in any perspectives.

He starts the story with an insane sounding plot that Andross worked on something like "telekinesis powers" that made him going insane and was lately found wounded by the "Cornerian Command Officials". I mean okay, there are some things that remains on the original plot, but Andross wasn't really "insane" at all, and General Pepper was the one who banned him to Venom, I can't remember a "Hall of Justice" in the games story.

BUT there are other facts that make it look like crap for me.

Not only has he screwed the story of Slippy Toad and his father, Beltino Toad, who originally worked on the Arwings, Landmasters etc etc and replaces Beltino with an guy called "Dr. Armon Grizico" who worked at Space Dynamics co. Ltd., no, he also makes a whole DRAMA STORY out of the relationship of Katt Monroe and Falco Lombardi, something like she blames him for her brother's dead and HE needs to prove his innocence to "his love". I mean WHAT THE F*CK is he thinking!? Is this some kind of bad joke?

Also he let it looks like that Slippy and Fox never knew each other since the Cornerian Academy/childhood days! Peppy as the COMMANDER of the StarFox Team? Is he trying to make a mix between StarFox 1, StarFox64 and StarFox Command?

In my eyes this guy is trying to ruin the franchise with this "movie project". I don't care if he is a student and has a storyboarder on his side who has 16 years of knowledge about it (Though his Storyboard for SAW II was just CRAP!), the fact is that he is trying to make a Drama-Love-Story with Falco and Katt with things that NEVER happened or have been mentioned in any of the games, and that he is replacing Slippy's father with a guy no one knows.

Sorry guys, you can support him if ya all want to see a crap and confusing story of our beloved StarFox franchise, but for me, he is just a Franchise KILLER. Nothing of his story concept makes me wanna take a look on his "wohooooooo!!!!"-called project.

I want to see something that makes the characters interesting/acting in the way we know them and that REALLY has something to do with the original plot of the games, not something that goes wishy-washy with events that never existed. It's the same situation with the Resident Evil and Silent Hill movies. I got TOO MANY bad experiences with things like that and now after I read his "Starfox Summary Plot" I'm even more afraid that the franchise gets raped.

At least that's my honest opinion about his "wonderful"-praised project. Hate me if you want to, but I'm a bloody realistic human when it comes down to things like that.

It actually doesn't. It's hinted at quite a bit that Falco wasn't always a guy who played by the rules. His past is shady, and we also know not a thing about it. It's entirely possible he murdered someone or at least was responsible for their death, and it's also possible Katt would play like she does for a shot at revenge.

Falco as a murderer? What the hell are you thinking about him?? He may be an ass sometimes, but he couldn't kill anyone, no matter how much he hates someone.

Hey, let me tell you something that I could translate out from a Japanese informationsite about Falco. First of, he was the leader of a motorcycle gang called "FREE AS A BIRD", and second he leaved the group because he wanted to make some career with the famous StarFox team. But I guess it shouldn't be something new for you.

You think he could kill someone? Don't you think that you're thinking a bit TOO bad about him and his past? Sure, we really don't know much about his past, maybe he was some kind of small criminal in his past, but he couldn't kill someone because he still has some calm behavior. Wow, sounds like you want to say that he has the LEON POWALSKI-SYNDROME. Falco would punch someones face if it needs to be, but nothing more.

[Zzz]

I think you're talking about cold murder? Well yeah....kinda weird. Anyway he tries to convince Katt he's innocent from what I got so the problem is somewhere else to be found.

I guess it's the relationship between Katt and Falco that bothers you, eh? Not the biggest fan of that idea, either.

Yeah I know.... maybe Katt is actling like that yadda yadda but:

not deviating too much from its source

Some fans just don't see it that way as we can see above me.

[Milkyway64]

...Sorry to say this, but his storyboard scrip is just more than crap.

I read the somewhat-on-going script he uploaded on his website and for some reason everything is just a pain in my eyes, I can't stand it in any perspectives.

He starts the story with an insane sounding plot that Andross worked on something like "telekinesis powers" that made him going insane and was lately found wounded by the "Cornerian Command Officials". I mean okay, there are some things that remains on the original plot, but Andross wasn't really "insane" at all, and General Pepper was the one who banned him to Venom, I can't remember a "Hall of Justice" in the games story.

BUT there are other facts that make it look like crap for me.

Not only has he screwed the story of Slippy Toad and his father, Beltino Toad, who originally worked on the Arwings, Landmasters etc etc and replaces Beltino with an guy called "Dr. Armon Grizico" who worked at Space Dynamics co. Ltd., no, he also makes a whole DRAMA STORY out of the relationship of Katt Monroe and Falco Lombardi, something like she blames him for her brother's dead and HE needs to prove his innocence to "his love". I mean WHAT THE F*CK is he thinking!? Is this some kind of bad joke?

Also he let it looks like that Slippy and Fox never knew each other since the Cornerian Academy/childhood days! Peppy as the COMMANDER of the StarFox Team? Is he trying to make a mix between StarFox 1, StarFox64 and StarFox Command?

In my eyes this guy is trying to ruin the franchise with this "movie project". I don't care if he is a student and has a storyboarder on his side who has 16 years of knowledge about it (Though his Storyboard for SAW II was just CRAP!), the fact is that he is trying to make a Drama-Love-Story with Falco and Katt with things that NEVER happened or have been mentioned in any of the games, and that he is replacing Slippy's father with a guy no one knows.

Sorry guys, you can support him if ya all want to see a crap and confusing story of our beloved StarFox franchise, but for me, he is just a Franchise KILLER. Nothing of his story concept makes me wanna take a look on his "wohooooooo!!!!"-called project.

I want to see something that makes the characters interesting/acting in the way we know them and that REALLY has something to do with the original plot of the games, not something that goes wishy-washy with events that never existed. It's the same situation with the Resident Evil and Silent Hill movies. I got TOO MANY bad experiences with things like that and now after I read his "Starfox Summary Plot" I'm even more afraid that the franchise gets raped.

At least that's my honest opinion about his "wonderful"-praised project. Hate me if you want to, but I'm a bloody realistic human when it comes down to things like that.

Maybe you missed the part where I pointed out that SF on it's own won't make a good movie. It's characters are undeveloped, it's plot is mainly an excuse plot to go shoot things. We have very little to go on for a full length film, some things need to be made up. Andross is a FLOATING BRAIN HELLBENT ON RULING THE GALAXY. It's not absurd to think he -may- not be the most sane scientist in society. And also...

Falco as a murderer? What the hell are you thinking about him?? He may be an ass sometimes, but he couldn't kill anyone, no matter how much he hates someone.

Hey, let me tell you something that I could translate out from a Japanese informationsite about Falco. First of, he was the leader of a motorcycle gang called "FREE AS A BIRD", and second he leaved the group because he wanted to make some career with the famous StarFox team. But I guess it shouldn't be something new for you.

You think he could kill someone? Don't you think that you're thinking a bit TOO bad about him and his past? Sure, we really don't know much about his past, maybe he was some kind of small criminal in his past, but he couldn't kill someone because he still has some calm behavior. Wow, sounds like you want to say that he has the LEON POWALSKI-SYNDROME. Falco would punch someones face if it needs to be, but nothing more.

Yes, I do think he could kill someone. As a matter of fact, in the games you cherish so much, he BRAGS about it.

He's a mercenary, dear. What do those do again...? Exactly.

Also sauce or GTFO of the bit about him being a biker leader. That is the first that info has ever crossed my ears, and I've been here a while.

[Falcory]

I'm not a big fan of the Falco/Katt plot either but I do agree that in order to make the movie interesting more would have to be added to the characters. Problems is, the plot Irwin has in mind does not really seem to suit the characters at all. But in general some of the added inconsistencies are just a little bit of a nuisance.

[KokoaMinto]

I think you're talking about cold murder? Well yeah....kinda weird. Anyway he tries to convince Katt he's innocent from what I got so the problem is somewhere else to be found.

I guess it's the relationship between Katt and Falco, which is not based on an incident like this. At least there are no hints. Don't forget how they act in the manga.

Yeah I know.... maybe Katt is actling like that yadda yadda.

Some fans just don't see it that way as we can see above me.

Oh, so you want to say that I believe some things like that? Well at least I can understand a bit of Japanese language, and we all know that company people like to edit some names to make it sound "cooler" and "harder".

And no, I don't forget the Manga of course. Katt always had a crush on Falco but he never was and never will be in a relationship because "I fly solo, babe".

I don't care if it's a missunderstanding about this whole murder story with Katt's "brother", fact is the story is just stupid in my eyes and I won't change my opinion about it. He may HAVE some points, but I'm not on his side and won't support him, that's all. Nuff said, "babe" ;3

Maybe you missed the part where I pointed out that SF on it's own won't make a good movie. It's characters are undeveloped, it's plot is mainly an excuse plot to go shoot things. We have very little to go on for a full length film, some things need to be made up. Andross is a FLOATING BRAIN HELLBENT ON RULING THE GALAXY. It's not absurd to think he -may- not be the most sane scientist in society. And also...

Yes, I do think he could kill someone. As a matter of fact, in the games you cherish so much, he BRAGS about it.

He's a mercenary, dear. What do those do again...? Exactly.

Also sauce or GTFO of the bit about him being a biker leader. That is the first that info has ever crossed my ears, and I've been here a while.

1. Well okay, maybe I missed something about your earlier posts, it's okay, don't worry too much about the first things I said, then. You have a point about the characters undeveloped statement that no one can deny. And yes, there isn't enough material to make a movie that goes for nearly 2 hours.

2. He's a mercernary, that's true, but before he joined StarFox he wasn't, he was a rebel who was leading his own gang. So yeah, there's a difference between doing it as a job and being just a rebel that punches someone directly in the face when he feels like it.

Well that's the positive side about learning Japanese and searching the web via Japanese language. It was mentioned in a Japanese wikipedia site about StarFox, and there was a small story about Falco that said that "he was the head of a motorcycle gang called [Free As A Bird] in the past and ran around the space with them". Taken and halfway selftranslated from the Wiki site. Don't believe me? Here's the Japanese original text: "?????????FREE AS A BIRD????????????????????????"